Elon Musk buys $3 billion stake (9.2%) in Twitter and is now the platform's largest shareholder

Anonymous
It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


It is disturbing. Worse, it's another jurisdiction's view of disinformation that they wish to impose on the world and believe they can because the internet knows no boundaries.

Notice how the article unironically states that the new law sets "the global standard" even though no elected representative outside Europe had a say in it.
Anonymous
I wonder if Elon knew prior to this that his other companies had whole teams to handle him like a toddler
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?
Anonymous
This demand letter to Musk is fantastic.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?


Disinformation is a matter of fact vs. fiction. Disinformation is not a difference of opinion.

"Grass is purple" = disinformation

"Grass is delicious" = opinion
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


Why do you even care? Do you think twitter is a good source of information?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?


Disinformation is a matter of fact vs. fiction. Disinformation is not a difference of opinion.

"Grass is purple" = disinformation

"Grass is delicious" = opinion


Recently, it was a fact that Russian had launched missiles into Poland.
Anonymous
Where's free speech if Kanye/Ye just got banned from Twitter?
(I would have banned him but I'm not Musk)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?


Disinformation is a matter of fact vs. fiction. Disinformation is not a difference of opinion.

"Grass is purple" = disinformation

"Grass is delicious" = opinion

This is too much for right wingers to wade through.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2




No tyranny there. Nope
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


^ This is how the right wing tries to blur the lines between fact and fiction.

The US Capitol was violently attacked because of disinformation. People were killed because of disinformation. Hundreds of thousands died unnecessarily because of COVID disinformation. School board members received messages threatening to murder them, rape their children and burn their homes down because of CRT disinformation. The US is at its most divisive since the Civil War because of toxic, intentional disinformation.

And, you find it "super disturbing" only because you're made all that toxic disinformation and gaslighting a central part of your strategy.

I, and millions of Americans, are SICK of playing your games. I agree with social media flagging disinformation for what it is. That is not censorship. That is you rightly being called out for your bullshit.


So you are happy to have bureaucrats in Europe decide for you what is disinformation (which you are not allowed to see) and what isn't?


Disinformation is a matter of fact vs. fiction. Disinformation is not a difference of opinion.

"Grass is purple" = disinformation

"Grass is delicious" = opinion

This is too much for right wingers to wade through.


Yet someone gave two good examples of disinformation which were actually lies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually not GDPR the EU is threatening Twitter with. It's a new Digital Services Act, which goes way beyond privacy issues, but which the EU hope will have the same reach, so they in fact control key aspects of the internet.

"The warning from Brussels came in a video call between Musk and Thierry Breton, the EU’s commissioner in charge of implementing the bloc’s digital rules, according to people with knowledge of the conversation.

Breton told Musk that Twitter must adhere to a checklist of rules, including ditching an “arbitrary” approach to reinstating banned users, pursuing disinformation “aggressively” and agreeing to an “extensive independent audit” of the platform by next year.

Musk was warned that unless he stuck to those rules Twitter risked infringing the EU’s new Digital Services Act, a new law that sets the global standard for how Big Tech must police content on the internet. Breton reiterated Twitter could face a Europe-wide ban or fines of up to 6 per cent of global turnover if it breached the law."

https://www.ft.com/content/a07ca1ae-9f9a-46ee-9457-27bb30e18ed2


I find that super disturbing because the whole "disinformation" thing is a way to excise undesirable information. I mean who would even decide what disinformation is or isn't? It's censorship.


Yes, it is censorship. The US has the most expansive free speech protections in the world. That means that other countries have more restrictions on speech. The US invented the internet but it now belongs to the whole world, and US laws only apply to the internet in the US; the laws of other countries apply to the internet in other countries. That means that other countries control the internet, content, and privacy when the internet is in their countries.
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