Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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We are becoming The Truman Show, everything is CCTV

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Well well well. FBI's new AI algorithm not working so well after all...

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter was a highly experienced sniper/marksman. One shot yet so precise from far away. The average person wouldn’t be able to do that. The shooter has some sort of military/government background for sure.I find it hard to believe some hare brained transgender kid was behind this.

Exactly. Military man...100%

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who say Charlie Lirk was a great person, nothing but respectful, only trying to do good in the world…

Do you think it’s a good thing that his organization (Turning Point USA) maintained a “Professor Watch List”? That list has led to people getting death threats and needing security to do their jobs. Would you want to be on such a list? Would that make you feel safe? Do you think putting people on a public list that results in them being targeted by unstable
individuals is a Christian thing to do?

I am really trying to understand how people can sort of paper over documented harmful actions like this. And I don’t wish to hear a whataboutism type argument about something a liberal did because that’s not the question at hand. It just seems to me that people are cherry picking certain actions and words to only paint CK in a good light simply because CK was on “their team”.

Oh and to be clear I am in no way trying to suggest that CK deserved what happened. There is no justification for murder. I am specifically trying to understand the current effort to paint an image that is not the full picture of what CK did and stood for.

When people die, humans have a custom of saying nice things about them rather than listing their shortcomings.

Sure, for people you know personally. But why go out of your way to practically canonize a public figure you have never met in a social media post, when there are documented things that person did which are not Christian?

I don’t think it helps anyone to act like someone never did a single harmful thing in their life and use that to paint one side as all good and one side as all evil.

Well sure. I’m not canonizing the guy, but I understand why people who admired him are. Not sure I understand the purpose of feigning confusion about this.

The only reason to say bad things about him at this point is to justify, excuse, or diminish his murder.

That said, I certainly agree that the current trend of painting the sides (whichever side you may be on) as good/evil is inaccurate and damaging.

Actually, the only reason not to list all the horrible things he’s done is because jeff asks people to wait 48 hours.

People can peruse his X feed and form their own opinions. I don't understand why people need to be told how to think. Read and form your own opinions.

The problem is that people don’t read or do any research. They go on social media, see posts that do not tell all sides of a story, and become outraged accordingly. Maybe some people who admired this guy would feel a little differently if they were fully aware of all of his actions and not just curated social media clips from events.

And I disagree that to point anything like this out is to justify or diminish what happened. We have a real problem in this country. We’re social media is used to distort or misrepresent the truth or hide certain pieces of information in order to get people all spun up. And I would be saying the same thing if we were talking about say a killing of a black person by the police. It’s a problem if people run to social media and only talk about how that person was a saint when maybe there is more to the story. People are forming opinions without having all of the facts and no one wants to put in any effort beyond scrolling their feeds, which only give them things that reinforce their existing beliefs.

I agree with you that people never go to the source.

But here the source, ie his actual words, and in favor of accepting a few deaths to safeguard the Second Amendment. You can say he's polite and courteous all you want, but that's lipstick on a pig. He espoused views that were extremely discriminatory, against various minority groups and women, and glorified gun violence.

Surely we can separate the content from the delivery? A smooth talker isn't automatically an angel.

Posts containing his direct quotes are being deleted from this thread almost instantly. That should tell you something.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the video of the man in the white hat and guy next to him making signs that someone posted yesterday. This is a close up of the men and there’s nothing violent, fyi.

https://www.threads.com/@ryshead/post/DOcwTuVjho6?xmt=AQF0ih4JsFf6dVqShr8GxnF6EGvccRtPDuPhq7JPMcHQUA&slof=1

Just stop. The man with the white hat is part of Kirk’s group.

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What is interesting in that (admittedly poor quality) photo is you can see his hands are clenched, which is what you’d expect from someone about to do what he did.

If he were some uber-assassin james bond type, he would not have done this, or anything which might draw attention to himself like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the video of the man in the white hat and guy next to him making signs that someone posted yesterday. This is a close up of the men and there’s nothing violent, fyi.

https://www.threads.com/@ryshead/post/DOcwTuVjho6?xmt=AQF0ih4JsFf6dVqShr8GxnF6EGvccRtPDuPhq7JPMcHQUA&slof=1

Just stop. The man with the white hat is part of Kirk’s group.

You're SO CLOSE...

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Anonymous wrote:FFS they are awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Sorry, but the guy was a carnival barker for Donald Trump who made a lot of money. He didn't deserve to die for that but what exactly was his meaningful contribution to society? Seems to me he enjoyed sowing hate towards marginalized groups.
Points for consistency because Trump also gave one of these to Rush Limbaugh.

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What is interesting in that (admittedly poor quality) photo is you can see his hands are clenched, which is what you’d expect from someone about to do what he did.

If he were some uber-assassin james bond type, he would not have done this, or anything which might draw attention to himself like that.

Or this is someone completely unrelated and set up to take the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

Sure. Sounds like a setup.

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Let us not jump to conclusions. This crazy person may very well apolitical and just yet another mentally ill young man using violence as a venue to act out his anger. Hasn't this been the history of this country since Columbine?

Just do a simple Google search. We have so many murders caused by guns that as a nation we have accepted it as just "another day".

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Charlie deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He is a national hero.

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What is interesting in that (admittedly poor quality) photo is you can see his hands are clenched, which is what you’d expect from someone about to do what he did.

If he were some uber-assassin james bond type, he would not have done this, or anything which might draw attention to himself like that.

I predict they will have the killer identified, and hopefully in custody before the end of the day.

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What is interesting in that (admittedly poor quality) photo is you can see his hands are clenched, which is what you’d expect from someone about to do what he did.

If he were some uber-assassin james bond type, he would not have done this, or anything which might draw attention to himself like that.

I predict they will have the killer identified, and hopefully in custody before the end of the day.

A “killer” will be identified, most likely post-mortem

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What is interesting in that (admittedly poor quality) photo is you can see his hands are clenched, which is what you’d expect from someone about to do what he did.

If he were some uber-assassin james bond type, he would not have done this, or anything which might draw attention to himself like that.

I don't think you can draw any conclusions on body language from one second in time. We don't even know if that's him coming or going. I simply posted it to ID a suspect.