Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Just saw the video.

The crowd did not silence her. They let her talk uninterrupted for 2 whole minutes. She went on a monologue of sorts (while everyone else had asked short questions). But even still they let her speak her mind. They only interrupted when she started saying those who oppose are racist.

I genuinely feel bad for her. She mentioned her kids medical condition. She has valid concerns for her child. But to dismiss other folks’ valid concerns and assume opposition is automatically racist is not it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Why was the woman getting in her face, interrupting her? Why can't people present differing opinions?

I have no idea!!! She got in the face of the lady who said we shouldn’t be fighting as a community. This is not us vs you. This is on Dr. Taylor! This was also the first of many Asian women she yelled at after the event.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t homes in Crown far more expensive?

Hence the Crown families are eager to bring the Wootton families to Crown.

The Churchill people don't want to go to Wootton because they see it as a downgrade.

Similar to how some Wootton families don't trust that the school will maintain it's same academic standing with the move.

Then the Crown/Rosemont island people don't want their kids to go to Gaithersburg HS.

So there is a bit of classism going on and it's going on at different levels.

With the Wootton families, remember it's not just academic performance but also stability. Where sure the enrollment numbers currently show there's a decline in enrollment. But what happens when enrollment goes back up? Richard Montgomery and Bayard were both opened at over capacity and have portables right? So that should show confidence in the projections from MCPS. So they have empty school building on Wootton Parkway and reopen and some of the previous areas that fed into Wootton would stay at Crown. Those families that have to stay at Crown probably won't be at a bad school. But it won't be the third top school in the state.

This is why a lot of Wootton families are questioning the data and input for question H and want more information on it before anything is finalized. But in a lot of ways it seems like MCPS revealed option H at the 11th hour with questionable data.

And this is why Wootton families are asking for MCPS to slowdown and show proof behind the data before making irreversible decisions.

hearing so much about wootton's current state, I am highly doubting this claim of 3rd top school in the state? How can it be that high when they don't have functioning science labs? Do they just bypass all the MCPS curriculum that's done at QO, RM, NW etc? No bunson burners? seems like they could be measuring things inaccurately. sus.

Rankings are typically mostly based on test scores, which are generally largely a result of the demographics of the student body. Doesn't tell you much about the teachers, classes, or facilities (other than that they didn't screw up the advantage of having a student body who came in largely primed to excel on tests already.)

Oh but they can impact your property values which is what many H opponents really care about. They are having a visceral reaction to having strategically chosen to buy a certain house at a certain price so it would be assigned to a certain high school and now it will be assigned to a different high school. They aren't sure if their property value will hold and that is upsetting.

A home purchase is the largest one people will make in their lives. Giving the community less than 2 months (really only 1 month with the holidays) to provide input, then essentially ignoring that input because a decision had been made a year earlier, is absolutely grounds to be upset about a decline in the value of one’s home.

Test scores and school rankings take decades to establish, stay stable for many years, and any decline takes decades.

MCPS is transplanting Wootton to Crown because it wants to give it an instant reputation- why else would it transfer the Wootton name if over 40% of the new student body isn’t from historical Wootton. Families would have far less of a problem if the boundary was changed only to allow Wootton a brand new building- not to add 40% more kids. This would be consistent with MCPS’ stated desire to provide a safe building and save money by not renovating Wootton. Likewise, Wootton would have room to grow and the new developments in Rockville would attract new families wanting to attend Wootton But this is about Gaithersburg grabbing a W school away from Rockville, along with the tax revenue from families wanting to live close to Wootton @ Crown.

And before anyone says that would mean Wootton would be an under enrolled school, Taylor’s Woodward recommendation leaves WJ at 77% utilization.

It is absurd to leave WJ at 77% utilization, but Woodward (even though not always Woodward) advocates get accused of being racist every time they suggest that WJ take on more students.

This is true especially given the challenges to the regional program. It seems like MCPS is assuming WJ will have a lot of kids join the Humanities program they are supposed to host, so they are leaving enrollment under target. But what if those challenges are successful? Then WJ ends up being tiny.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t homes in Crown far more expensive?

Hence the Crown families are eager to bring the Wootton families to Crown.

The Churchill people don't want to go to Wootton because they see it as a downgrade.

Similar to how some Wootton families don't trust that the school will maintain it's same academic standing with the move.

Then the Crown/Rosemont island people don't want their kids to go to Gaithersburg HS.

So there is a bit of classism going on and it's going on at different levels.

With the Wootton families, remember it's not just academic performance but also stability. Where sure the enrollment numbers currently show there's a decline in enrollment. But what happens when enrollment goes back up? Richard Montgomery and Bayard were both opened at over capacity and have portables right? So that should show confidence in the projections from MCPS. So they have empty school building on Wootton Parkway and reopen and some of the previous areas that fed into Wootton would stay at Crown. Those families that have to stay at Crown probably won't be at a bad school. But it won't be the third top school in the state.

This is why a lot of Wootton families are questioning the data and input for question H and want more information on it before anything is finalized. But in a lot of ways it seems like MCPS revealed option H at the 11th hour with questionable data.

And this is why Wootton families are asking for MCPS to slowdown and show proof behind the data before making irreversible decisions.

hearing so much about wootton's current state, I am highly doubting this claim of 3rd top school in the state? How can it be that high when they don't have functioning science labs? Do they just bypass all the MCPS curriculum that's done at QO, RM, NW etc? No bunson burners? seems like they could be measuring things inaccurately. sus.

Rankings are typically mostly based on test scores, which are generally largely a result of the demographics of the student body. Doesn't tell you much about the teachers, classes, or facilities (other than that they didn't screw up the advantage of having a student body who came in largely primed to excel on tests already.)

Oh but they can impact your property values which is what many H opponents really care about. They are having a visceral reaction to having strategically chosen to buy a certain house at a certain price so it would be assigned to a certain high school and now it will be assigned to a different high school. They aren't sure if their property value will hold and that is upsetting.

A home purchase is the largest one people will make in their lives. Giving the community less than 2 months (really only 1 month with the holidays) to provide input, then essentially ignoring that input because a decision had been made a year earlier, is absolutely grounds to be upset about a decline in the value of one’s home.

Test scores and school rankings take decades to establish, stay stable for many years, and any decline takes decades.

MCPS is transplanting Wootton to Crown because it wants to give it an instant reputation- why else would it transfer the Wootton name if over 40% of the new student body isn’t from historical Wootton. Families would have far less of a problem if the boundary was changed only to allow Wootton a brand new building- not to add 40% more kids. This would be consistent with MCPS’ stated desire to provide a safe building and save money by not renovating Wootton. Likewise, Wootton would have room to grow and the new developments in Rockville would attract new families wanting to attend Wootton But this is about Gaithersburg grabbing a W school away from Rockville, along with the tax revenue from families wanting to live close to Wootton @ Crown.

And before anyone says that would mean Wootton would be an under enrolled school, Taylor’s Woodward recommendation leaves WJ at 77% utilization.

1. change the name!
2. cities don't own the schools
3. 40% of new student body is bad math. hopefully you aren't taking an MCAP this month.

1. Taylor won’t do that.

2. They don’t, but they get billions in tax revenues from the families who live near schools in their cities. MCPS does consider the effect on cities in which it operates schools. Or are you saying that MCPS doesn’t rely on city services for anything?

3. My math is fine. Crown capacity is 2,700. Wootton student population is around 1800. Subtract Cold Spring around 175. 1625 divided by 2700 equals 60.18%. So roughly 40% non-Wootton kids.

So Wootton @ Crown will be only 60% Wootton. The FTC would call that false advertising.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t homes in Crown far more expensive?

Hence the Crown families are eager to bring the Wootton families to Crown.

The Churchill people don't want to go to Wootton because they see it as a downgrade.

Similar to how some Wootton families don't trust that the school will maintain it's same academic standing with the move.

Then the Crown/Rosemont island people don't want their kids to go to Gaithersburg HS.

So there is a bit of classism going on and it's going on at different levels.

With the Wootton families, remember it's not just academic performance but also stability. Where sure the enrollment numbers currently show there's a decline in enrollment. But what happens when enrollment goes back up? Richard Montgomery and Bayard were both opened at over capacity and have portables right? So that should show confidence in the projections from MCPS. So they have empty school building on Wootton Parkway and reopen and some of the previous areas that fed into Wootton would stay at Crown. Those families that have to stay at Crown probably won't be at a bad school. But it won't be the third top school in the state.

This is why a lot of Wootton families are questioning the data and input for question H and want more information on it before anything is finalized. But in a lot of ways it seems like MCPS revealed option H at the 11th hour with questionable data.

And this is why Wootton families are asking for MCPS to slowdown and show proof behind the data before making irreversible decisions.

hearing so much about wootton's current state, I am highly doubting this claim of 3rd top school in the state? How can it be that high when they don't have functioning science labs? Do they just bypass all the MCPS curriculum that's done at QO, RM, NW etc? No bunson burners? seems like they could be measuring things inaccurately. sus.

Rankings are typically mostly based on test scores, which are generally largely a result of the demographics of the student body. Doesn't tell you much about the teachers, classes, or facilities (other than that they didn't screw up the advantage of having a student body who came in largely primed to excel on tests already.)

Oh but they can impact your property values which is what many H opponents really care about. They are having a visceral reaction to having strategically chosen to buy a certain house at a certain price so it would be assigned to a certain high school and now it will be assigned to a different high school. They aren't sure if their property value will hold and that is upsetting.

A home purchase is the largest one people will make in their lives. Giving the community less than 2 months (really only 1 month with the holidays) to provide input, then essentially ignoring that input because a decision had been made a year earlier, is absolutely grounds to be upset about a decline in the value of one’s home.

Test scores and school rankings take decades to establish, stay stable for many years, and any decline takes decades.

MCPS is transplanting Wootton to Crown because it wants to give it an instant reputation- why else would it transfer the Wootton name if over 40% of the new student body isn’t from historical Wootton. Families would have far less of a problem if the boundary was changed only to allow Wootton a brand new building- not to add 40% more kids. This would be consistent with MCPS’ stated desire to provide a safe building and save money by not renovating Wootton. Likewise, Wootton would have room to grow and the new developments in Rockville would attract new families wanting to attend Wootton But this is about Gaithersburg grabbing a W school away from Rockville, along with the tax revenue from families wanting to live close to Wootton @ Crown.

And before anyone says that would mean Wootton would be an under enrolled school, Taylor’s Woodward recommendation leaves WJ at 77% utilization.

1. change the name!
2. cities don't own the schools
3. 40% of new student body is bad math. hopefully you aren't taking an MCAP this month.

1. Taylor won’t do that.

2. They don’t, but they get billions in tax revenues from the families who live near schools in their cities. MCPS does consider the effect on cities in which it operates schools. Or are you saying that MCPS doesn’t rely on city services for anything?

3. My math is fine. Crown capacity is 2,700. Wootton student population is around 1800. Subtract Cold Spring around 175. 1625 divided by 2700 equals 60.18%. So roughly 40% non-Wootton kids.

So Wootton @ Crown will be only 60% Wootton. The FTC would call that false advertising.

Crown capacity upon opening is 2200.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Facts. This is what I was saying earlier before the video came out. There are racist Asians, Hispanics, blacks, whites, etc. racism knows no bounds. But to attack Asian women specifically is a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t homes in Crown far more expensive?

Hence the Crown families are eager to bring the Wootton families to Crown.

The Churchill people don't want to go to Wootton because they see it as a downgrade.

Similar to how some Wootton families don't trust that the school will maintain it's same academic standing with the move.

Then the Crown/Rosemont island people don't want their kids to go to Gaithersburg HS.

So there is a bit of classism going on and it's going on at different levels.

With the Wootton families, remember it's not just academic performance but also stability. Where sure the enrollment numbers currently show there's a decline in enrollment. But what happens when enrollment goes back up? Richard Montgomery and Bayard were both opened at over capacity and have portables right? So that should show confidence in the projections from MCPS. So they have empty school building on Wootton Parkway and reopen and some of the previous areas that fed into Wootton would stay at Crown. Those families that have to stay at Crown probably won't be at a bad school. But it won't be the third top school in the state.

This is why a lot of Wootton families are questioning the data and input for question H and want more information on it before anything is finalized. But in a lot of ways it seems like MCPS revealed option H at the 11th hour with questionable data.

And this is why Wootton families are asking for MCPS to slowdown and show proof behind the data before making irreversible decisions.

hearing so much about wootton's current state, I am highly doubting this claim of 3rd top school in the state? How can it be that high when they don't have functioning science labs? Do they just bypass all the MCPS curriculum that's done at QO, RM, NW etc? No bunson burners? seems like they could be measuring things inaccurately. sus.

Rankings are typically mostly based on test scores, which are generally largely a result of the demographics of the student body. Doesn't tell you much about the teachers, classes, or facilities (other than that they didn't screw up the advantage of having a student body who came in largely primed to excel on tests already.)

Oh but they can impact your property values which is what many H opponents really care about. They are having a visceral reaction to having strategically chosen to buy a certain house at a certain price so it would be assigned to a certain high school and now it will be assigned to a different high school. They aren't sure if their property value will hold and that is upsetting.

A home purchase is the largest one people will make in their lives. Giving the community less than 2 months (really only 1 month with the holidays) to provide input, then essentially ignoring that input because a decision had been made a year earlier, is absolutely grounds to be upset about a decline in the value of one’s home.

Test scores and school rankings take decades to establish, stay stable for many years, and any decline takes decades.

MCPS is transplanting Wootton to Crown because it wants to give it an instant reputation- why else would it transfer the Wootton name if over 40% of the new student body isn’t from historical Wootton. Families would have far less of a problem if the boundary was changed only to allow Wootton a brand new building- not to add 40% more kids. This would be consistent with MCPS’ stated desire to provide a safe building and save money by not renovating Wootton. Likewise, Wootton would have room to grow and the new developments in Rockville would attract new families wanting to attend Wootton But this is about Gaithersburg grabbing a W school away from Rockville, along with the tax revenue from families wanting to live close to Wootton @ Crown.

And before anyone says that would mean Wootton would be an under enrolled school, Taylor’s Woodward recommendation leaves WJ at 77% utilization.

1. change the name!
2. cities don't own the schools
3. 40% of new student body is bad math. hopefully you aren't taking an MCAP this month.

1. Taylor won’t do that.

2. They don’t, but they get billions in tax revenues from the families who live near schools in their cities. MCPS does consider the effect on cities in which it operates schools. Or are you saying that MCPS doesn’t rely on city services for anything?

3. My math is fine. Crown capacity is 2,700. Wootton student population is around 1800. Subtract Cold Spring around 175. 1625 divided by 2700 equals 60.18%. So roughly 40% non-Wootton kids.

So Wootton @ Crown will be only 60% Wootton. The FTC would call that false advertising.

you are gonna have to go back about 20 pages on this thread, the math has already been done on here. keep up. the population was already going to change because it's a boundary study. if the building stayed, cold spring got pulled, and fields road/ritchie park got sent to wootton instead would you still say it's "non-wootton kids"

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Facts. This is what I was saying earlier before the video came out. There are racist Asians, Hispanics, blacks, whites, etc. racism knows no bounds. But to attack Asian women specifically is a choice.

She already explained why she went up to that woman after the meeting and it had nothing to do with her race. Do better.

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/HHD_YnOuCgE

You are all welcome.
It was peaceful until the 1hr 22 mark.

Video unfortunately ends at the conclusion of the event so we don’t see the screaming at individual parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Facts. This is what I was saying earlier before the video came out. There are racist Asians, Hispanics, blacks, whites, etc. racism knows no bounds. But to attack Asian women specifically is a choice.

She already explained why she went up to that woman after the meeting and it had nothing to do with her race. Do better.

And how about the other Asian women she accosted after a candidate had to step in to save the first lady?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Facts. This is what I was saying earlier before the video came out. There are racist Asians, Hispanics, blacks, whites, etc. racism knows no bounds. But to attack Asian women specifically is a choice.

She already explained why she went up to that woman after the meeting and it had nothing to do with her race. Do better.

And how about the other Asian women she accosted after a candidate had to step in to save the first lady?

Sounds like they were actually the ones accosting her! Read the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/HHD_YnOuCgE

You are all welcome.
It was peaceful until the 1hr 22 mark.

Video unfortunately ends at the conclusion of the event so we don’t see the screaming at individual parents.

People let her talk until she started saying things like people have written public statements about not wanting to send their kids to crown due to crown kids. Genuinely, who is she referring to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/HHD_YnOuCgE

You are all welcome.
It was peaceful until the 1hr 22 mark.

Video unfortunately ends at the conclusion of the event so we don’t see the screaming at individual parents.

People let her talk until she started saying things like people have written public statements about not wanting to send their kids to crown due to crown kids. Genuinely, who is she referring to?

Wootton WhatsApp groups. This is true. It's racist and gross. I've seen it. There are over 600 people on this chat, the info is out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://youtu.be/HHD_YnOuCgE

You are all welcome.
It was peaceful until the 1hr 22 mark.

Video unfortunately ends at the conclusion of the event so we don’t see the screaming at individual parents.

People let her talk until she started saying things like people have written public statements about not wanting to send their kids to crown due to crown kids. Genuinely, who is she referring to?

Wootton WhatsApp groups. This is true. It's racist and gross. I've seen it. There are over 600 people on this chat, the info is out there.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the woman who went to the candidate forum last night and who was the only person when asking a question that was repeatedly shouted at and interrupted throughout my attempt to ask the candidates my question. For every person who spoke, we all quietly and respectfully listened. Once it was my turn to speak, as I tried to explain why many of us parents support the rec and don't want to stay in the building with no money for renovations until the next cycle, multiple people in the audience started screaming and shouting at me, interrupting and telling me to ask my question. I refuse to be silenced and so I kept on talking over the shouting. I asked the candidates about Policy FAA's factor that *requires* that a boundary change strive to *increase* diversity and whether if elected they would follow that requirement even if they had constituents telling them that they don't want to move because of increased diversity. And important preface to that question was me informing them of the fact that I have personally been told to my face on Tuesday night (with witnesses!) and I have seen numerous comments in writing that some people are against the Rec because they don't want to go to school with Crown kids. This is a verifiable fact that has been said to me directly, in person, with witnesses, and in writing with hundreds of witnesses. I never once said any racial group was racist, obviously, and to say otherwise is defamatory and I will not tolerate it. There's a video. Also, one of the candidates previously expressed support and encouragement for the planned lawsuit against the BOE she is running for, which I took the opportunity to call out as disqualifying. After the forum was over, I approached the woman who told the crowd at Tuesday's forum to ask her why she said what she said about MCPS getting approval for options A-G but not H, in light of the facts and the law. We got into a heated exchange and decided to agree to disagree. I was then approached by several people, at different times, who came up to me yelling about Dufief, yelling at me "why did Dufief drag us into this" "just go to Crown" "you're hypocrites." There were a couple of nice people who actually engaged respectfully with me in productive conversations about getting renovations at Wootton and how to improve this process. One woman in particular who is against the Rec was so sweet to me in particular, and asked me about what I had heard. I told her exactly the racist comments I was told on Tuesday, and she told me to ignore those voices. We even talked with one of the candidates who approached me after to thank me for bravely speaking out and calling out racism, and who admonished those who rudely screamed and interrupted me. Many of the candidates thanked me in their answers for bravely calling this to their attention. I have dozens of messages from parents over the past few months decrying the racism they've witnessed, sending me the screenshots of vile comments made about certain demographics and whose stated reason for not wanting to go to Crown is because of the demographics of the Crown kids. I can't begin to explain how hurtful this is to Crown families I've talked with. No one including me is saying ALL people who are against the rec are racist, of course. There are many different reasons people have to be against the rec. I am being an ally and calling out the racist comments I am told directly and see with my own eyes. There are so many issues with this boundary process, and it's unfortunate as a community that all too often when discussing the merits of particular ways to address boundaries, those conversations are hijacked by some individuals to throw in race into the debate. The silence and complicity of not calling out these individuals when they make racist comments is destructive to the community and it undermines the very valid reasons and objections people may have. Let's do better folks.

Yes, please let’s do better. The crowd did not single you out. They interrupted you because you start telling everyone their opposition was racist.

I was standing right by the woman you “approached.”’ And by I approach, I mean you rushed over to yell at her.

This was not an “heated exchange.” This was you yelling at her face non stop. I heard her telling you multiple times that she would love to have a civil conversation with you but you kept screaming at her. She never once yelled in your face. It took one of the CANDIDATES to step in and physically remove this woman from you for you to stop yelling at her.

As Dr. Taylor said, just relax. Do better.

Got it, so civility > calling out racism. Not the PP, but if you're so grievously offended by being called racist, you really need to look inward on which lady you're telling to do better.

So the lady she screamed at was being racist? The video is out. The lady she screamed at after the event btw literally said this is not about us vs. you. Forward to 1:36 on video.

She acknowledged that Dufief is an equal part of the cluster and says this is about Dr. Taylor who has created a divide. And then the woman goes and chooses her of all people to scream at.

I wish the video kept going. Because this wasn’t a heated exchange. This was one person screaming at another.

O and yes the lady she’s screaming at just so happens to be Asian.

Facts. This is what I was saying earlier before the video came out. There are racist Asians, Hispanics, blacks, whites, etc. racism knows no bounds. But to attack Asian women specifically is a choice.

She already explained why she went up to that woman after the meeting and it had nothing to do with her race. Do better.

And how about the other Asian women she accosted after a candidate had to step in to save the first lady?

Sounds like they were actually the ones accosting her! Read the story.

I am a community member. My kids have graduated Wootton, so admittedly I have not come to as many of these meetings. I sat right by the first lady (who appears to be Asian) who was approached by the screaming lady. She came in hot and was screaming from the beginning. The Asian lady did tell her several times she would speak with her only if she calmed down. I stood by because I thought about stepping in. The screaming lady was arguing with her about the law? Honestly, I don’t know because Asian lady never had a chance to respond because screaming lady kept screaming over her. At one point, screaming lady pointed her finger right at her and called her sneaky. That’s when the candidate Wylea Chase came over, gave the Asian lady a hug and walked her off.

I did not see what happened next or if anyone else was approached. I decided it was time for bed and went home.