Should I move to Florida?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how there are 12 pages of posts arguing about whether FL sucks or not, and there are only a couple posts pointing out that the whole premise of OP's question- that she could avoid MD income taxes by moving to FL while continuing to work in MD- is wrong.

Well once you point that out, what more can you say? Then people are just responding to other people's response, like 99.9% of forum threads anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shame on you for suggesting commuting by air the day after the most serious climate report we’ve ever seen.

Do you have kids? Do you give the tiniest care about their future?

This was exactly my reaction when I read the OP. Commute every other week by plane? That is immoral and unconscionable.

[Anonymous]

All these folks should stay right here in DCUM land and not crowd the other states. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

I would not move to Florida simply because it is being hit hard by climate change. Wake up people! This is not your grandparents world anymore

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:it is so fascinating to read all the responses, and what seems to be 95% hatred at the mere mention of florida.
perhaps i have different perspective because i grew up in south florida. and much of south florida, especially miami and fll really doesn't consider itself part of floriduh.
i left dc 2 years ago and feel like i can finally breathe!
i appreciate my time in dc and the many benefits to having lived there, but i'm so glad to be raising my family back in south florida.
and yes, i and many others cannot stand desantis.
but i love living 10 minutes from the beach and going to the beach 2x a week vs 1-2x a year, year round beach (warm enough to swim in, not freezing and rough) and pool weather, NO WINTER ICE OR SNOW!!!, no state income tax, incredible diversity, my kids are already conversant in spanish and portuguese, fantastic food, less cutthroat emphasis on who you know/what you do/what can you do for me, not worrying about signing up for good quality daycare or preschool spots at 6 weeks pregnant, being 2-3 hour plane rides from much of central and south america, having kids in person learning, all the watersports you can imagine, the lush tropical plants and trees, having fruit trees in my backyard like mango papaya and lychee, how greeen and alive everything is in winter instead of brown and dead, blue sunny skies, etc

the thought of being back in dc makes me feel suffocated and anxious.
my 2 cents!

Ok no. This is funny. I also grew up in Miami. Yes your kids do grow to speak Spanish. But what are you talking about. There is a HUGE striver culture. There are private preschool schools with wait lists. Gulliver and that private all girls school JLO sends her daughter too. It’s super cutthroat in certain areas, unless you aren’t in it. There are some that don’t, but obviously not as highly sought after. Everyone drives a Bentley and they can’t even afford it and make $35,000 a year. Superficial and normal to see an AD for butt implants as you drive by with your kids. This literally happened to me.

Yeah the beach is cool. If you like that I get that. I agree that the big cities are liberal. I saw nothing redneck growing up in S Florida and especially not now.

I'm the PP you are quoting. I totally disagree that there is a HUGE striver culture. Compared to DC?! Of course there are preschools with wait lists and Gulliver/Ransom/Carrollton are extremely prestigious and expensive. I went to one of those schools. But it is NOTHING compared to the culture in DC. Literally needing to put your name on daycare waitlist for anywhere close to downtown as soon as you pee on a stick.
Everyone obviously does not drive a bentley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on you for suggesting commuting by air the day after the most serious climate report we’ve ever seen.

Do you have kids? Do you give the tiniest care about their future?

This was exactly my reaction when I read the OP. Commute every other week by plane? That is immoral and unconscionable.

is it unreasonable? maybe. is it a bad idea? probably.
immoral and unconscionable...a bit dramatic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Florida is the sunny place where shady people like to live.

ha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on you for suggesting commuting by air the day after the most serious climate report we’ve ever seen.

Do you have kids? Do you give the tiniest care about their future?

This was exactly my reaction when I read the OP. Commute every other week by plane? That is immoral and unconscionable.

is it unreasonable? maybe. is it a bad idea? probably.
immoral and unconscionable...a bit dramatic.

DP: Have you read the climate report? Do you know the impact of air travel on the environment? Setting your life up to fly this regularly to just to maybe pay a little less tax? Immoral in my book.

[Anonymous]

The climate nazis here need to back off. Please let me know what you are doing to solve the jet fuel consumption problem- did you devote your life to it and get an engineering degree to help solve this problem? If not, back off.

Ugh you holier than thou people are the WORST. In fact, you are the reason that the House will flip next year and Desantis is governor..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The climate nazis here need to back off. Please let me know what you are doing to solve the jet fuel consumption problem- did you devote your life to it and get an engineering degree to help solve this problem? If not, back off.

Ugh you holier than thou people are the WORST. In fact, you are the reason that the House will flip next year and Desantis is governor..

Why does everyone need to devote their life to it to point out there is an undeniable massive problem we all need to address? It's not virtue signaling, it's reality. And it's unsustainable and immoral to not consider impact on the environment whether flying every two weeks to save a bit of taxes is important.

Anyway, I do work in a scientific field (hydrology) that is closely tied to environmental impact. Every colleague--policy analyst to lab scientist is freaked out by the latest data. So tired of people who want to make it about "culture wars" or other nonsense.

[Anonymous]

I am tired of it because there are so many posts on this forum where people flag how moral and virtuous their priorities are by saying something like:

"We make $500,000 a year but clothes, cars and houses mean nothing to us--we buy everything secondhand and sometimes look like homeless people. We do make sure to spend at least $50,000 a year on travel, however."

They then add, "Its all about priorities."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of it because there are so many posts on this forum where people flag how moral and virtuous their priorities are by saying something like:

"We make $500,000 a year but clothes, cars and houses mean nothing to us--we buy everything secondhand and sometimes look like homeless people. We do make sure to spend at least $50,000 a year on travel, however."

They then add, "Its all about priorities."

I don't think anyone who is spending 50k on travel a year is signaling concerns about the environment. Show a real post where that's the case. Money and finances are always about priorities and values whether you say it or not. How you spend your money shows what you value and you are signaling to others what you care about. You just don't like it when people name it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how there are 12 pages of posts arguing about whether FL sucks or not, and there are only a couple posts pointing out that the whole premise of OP's question- that she could avoid MD income taxes by moving to FL while continuing to work in MD- is wrong.

It would actually be disastrous for OP's budget - costs to fly between FL & MD, still paying MD taxes on their income, paying for private school in FL, probably facing a property tax hike when they move to FL, costs of moving, etc.

From their exercise, I've come to two conclusions:
-People can be easily distracted by shiny, simple concepts ("No income tax!")
-People are really bad at calculating their NET costs

Id love for you to elaborate on this.

I am also thinking about a move to FL. In my case my income is $1M a year. I work for a company in another state (not MD/DC/VA), but I live in DC and pay tax in DC.

Ive spoken to private wealth management at various firms and their contention is that moving to FL - and working from FL - would be totally 100% legal and doable. We are seriously debating it because the tax savings alone would pay for the home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of it because there are so many posts on this forum where people flag how moral and virtuous their priorities are by saying something like:

"We make $500,000 a year but clothes, cars and houses mean nothing to us--we buy everything secondhand and sometimes look like homeless people. We do make sure to spend at least $50,000 a year on travel, however."

They then add, "Its all about priorities."

I don't think anyone who is spending 50k on travel a year is signaling concerns about the environment. Show a real post where that's the case. Money and finances are always about priorities and values whether you say it or not. How you spend your money shows what you value and you are signaling to others what you care about. You just don't like it when people name it.

I think you missed my point.

These posters want to position themselves as people who don't care about material things but are into the more virtuous and more highly evolved plane of spending on enriching experiences.

Totally oblivious to the carbon footprint of all their travel, which, ultimately is really not that virtuous and doesn't make them the better people they think they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The climate nazis here need to back off. Please let me know what you are doing to solve the jet fuel consumption problem- did you devote your life to it and get an engineering degree to help solve this problem? If not, back off.

Ugh you holier than thou people are the WORST. In fact, you are the reason that the House will flip next year and Desantis is governor..

I don't need an engineering degree to solve the problem. I'm not flying, that's how I am solving the jet fuel consumption problem.

We saw the answer at the beginning of the pandemic but refuse to accept that most of us don't "need" to flt even once every year, much less more frequently.

OP could just as easily move to West Virginia for a lower cost of living and not have to pay as much to drive to Maryland twice a month.