Any other families finally had enough of DC?

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Anonymous wrote:Almost all homicides in DC are among persons known to each other. In other words, if you don't hang out with criminals and drug dealers, you don't have to worry about being murdered. A typical UMC white woman is at a greater risk of being murdered by the man sleeping in her bed than a stranger on the streets of DC.

What about armed carjackings? This was a rarity in my neighborhood and now I feel like there is one every week if not more.

Don't leave your car running unattended in the middle of the road because you can't be bothered to find a parking space to pick up your food delivery order. That alone would eliminate 90% of the carjackings in the city -- not to mention keep traffic flowing.

Or .... we could respect each other’s personal property I am not goi g to steal your car because it’s running and has the keys in it. But I was raised that way, wait a minute, no forget it.

+1. Right? I have so many family members who live in places where they don’t have to constantly keep track of whether they locked all the doors and did all of the other things to fortify the home for another day.

I've never lived anywhere where you didn't have to lock the doors, so this strikes me as a pretty low bar for D.C. to clear.

Plenty of homeowners/drivers in Georgetown + Ward 3 seem to forget to lock their doors/cars; hell jack evans lost his car this way - he left the keys in the ignition.

"durr, durr, its your fault that you had your car stolen with your baby in it while you were loading your groceries, it should not have been running to give your baby a/c and a place to rest because you don't have four hands" and "durr, durr, if you don't want someone to pickpocket you then you should have zippers with locks on them like smart people do, get a clue" or "durr, durr, if you don't want to get clipped by stray bullets in your own home then you should always wear a bullet proof vest. otherwise if you get shot its your fault".

PP, you've clearly spent time on r/washingtondc!

I have not, but in reviewing that subreddit for a few minutes I find it a really reflects poorly on DCUM that there is more common sense about these issues in Reddit comments than here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/n4lttj/200_carjackings_in_dc_area_dozens_of_juveniles/

No one there is in denial that there is a serious crime problem in DC and people freely admit - like normal people - that concern about crime and the unwillingness to address it has caused them to move.

There seems to be a dedicated group of people posting here who want to deny or lie about the situation, primarily because I guess it has not personally affected them yet, and they have some vested interested in promoting DC Uber Alles or perhaps more accurately, their vision and only their vision of DC Uber Alles.

Oh wow, the linked thread is a standout. Usually, it's exactly like the comments you parodied in your prior post. Lots of GGW, "DC Uber Alles," pro-development, anti-car, "there is no crime in DC, just keep your head on a swivel," would-rather-die-than-go-to-Arlington, Metro-is-the-best types. DCUM has its own biases for sure, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Almost all homicides in DC are among persons known to each other. In other words, if you don't hang out with criminals and drug dealers, you don't have to worry about being murdered. A typical UMC white woman is at a greater risk of being murdered by the man sleeping in her bed than a stranger on the streets of DC.

What about armed carjackings? This was a rarity in my neighborhood and now I feel like there is one every week if not more.

Don't leave your car running unattended in the middle of the road because you can't be bothered to find a parking space to pick up your food delivery order. That alone would eliminate 90% of the carjackings in the city -- not to mention keep traffic flowing.

Or .... we could respect each other’s personal property I am not goi g to steal your car because it’s running and has the keys in it. But I was raised that way, wait a minute, no forget it.

+1. Right? I have so many family members who live in places where they don’t have to constantly keep track of whether they locked all the doors and did all of the other things to fortify the home for another day.

I've never lived anywhere where you didn't have to lock the doors, so this strikes me as a pretty low bar for D.C. to clear.

Plenty of homeowners/drivers in Georgetown + Ward 3 seem to forget to lock their doors/cars; hell jack evans lost his car this way - he left the keys in the ignition.

"durr, durr, its your fault that you had your car stolen with your baby in it while you were loading your groceries, it should not have been running to give your baby a/c and a place to rest because you don't have four hands" and "durr, durr, if you don't want someone to pickpocket you then you should have zippers with locks on them like smart people do, get a clue" or "durr, durr, if you don't want to get clipped by stray bullets in your own home then you should always wear a bullet proof vest. otherwise if you get shot its your fault".

PP, you've clearly spent time on r/washingtondc!

I have not, but in reviewing that subreddit for a few minutes I find it a really reflects poorly on DCUM that there is more common sense about these issues in Reddit comments than here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/n4lttj/200_carjackings_in_dc_area_dozens_of_juveniles/

No one there is in denial that there is a serious crime problem in DC and people freely admit - like normal people - that concern about crime and the unwillingness to address it has caused them to move.

There seems to be a dedicated group of people posting here who want to deny or lie about the situation, primarily because I guess it has not personally affected them yet, and they have some vested interested in promoting DC Uber Alles or perhaps more accurately, their vision and only their vision of DC Uber Alles.

Oh wow, the linked thread is a standout. Usually, it's exactly like the comments you parodied in your prior post. Lots of GGW, "DC Uber Alles," pro-development, anti-car, "there is no crime in DC, just keep your head on a swivel," would-rather-die-than-go-to-Arlington, Metro-is-the-best types. DCUM has its own biases for sure, though.

If it is the same people, it looks to me like when they are not using Black people as props for policies to maximize developer profits they are calling for them to be locked up and the key thrown away.

To be very honest, my strongest suspicion is that it is a small group of people with little to do and therefore they spend all their time on the internet posting everywhere to proselytize. Overall, it seems that people are getting tired of their sh*t though.

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Anonymous wrote:Almost all homicides in DC are among persons known to each other. In other words, if you don't hang out with criminals and drug dealers, you don't have to worry about being murdered. A typical UMC white woman is at a greater risk of being murdered by the man sleeping in her bed than a stranger on the streets of DC.

What about armed carjackings? This was a rarity in my neighborhood and now I feel like there is one every week if not more.

Don't leave your car running unattended in the middle of the road because you can't be bothered to find a parking space to pick up your food delivery order. That alone would eliminate 90% of the carjackings in the city -- not to mention keep traffic flowing.

Or .... we could respect each other’s personal property I am not goi g to steal your car because it’s running and has the keys in it. But I was raised that way, wait a minute, no forget it.

+1. Right? I have so many family members who live in places where they don’t have to constantly keep track of whether they locked all the doors and did all of the other things to fortify the home for another day.

I've never lived anywhere where you didn't have to lock the doors, so this strikes me as a pretty low bar for D.C. to clear.

Plenty of homeowners/drivers in Georgetown + Ward 3 seem to forget to lock their doors/cars; hell jack evans lost his car this way - he left the keys in the ignition.

"durr, durr, its your fault that you had your car stolen with your baby in it while you were loading your groceries, it should not have been running to give your baby a/c and a place to rest because you don't have four hands" and "durr, durr, if you don't want someone to pickpocket you then you should have zippers with locks on them like smart people do, get a clue" or "durr, durr, if you don't want to get clipped by stray bullets in your own home then you should always wear a bullet proof vest. otherwise if you get shot its your fault".

PP, you've clearly spent time on r/washingtondc!

I have not, but in reviewing that subreddit for a few minutes I find it a really reflects poorly on DCUM that there is more common sense about these issues in Reddit comments than here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/n4lttj/200_carjackings_in_dc_area_dozens_of_juveniles/

No one there is in denial that there is a serious crime problem in DC and people freely admit - like normal people - that concern about crime and the unwillingness to address it has caused them to move.

There seems to be a dedicated group of people posting here who want to deny or lie about the situation, primarily because I guess it has not personally affected them yet, and they have some vested interested in promoting DC Uber Alles or perhaps more accurately, their vision and only their vision of DC Uber Alles.

Oh wow, the linked thread is a standout. Usually, it's exactly like the comments you parodied in your prior post. Lots of GGW, "DC Uber Alles," pro-development, anti-car, "there is no crime in DC, just keep your head on a swivel," would-rather-die-than-go-to-Arlington, Metro-is-the-best types. DCUM has its own biases for sure, though.

If it is the same people, it looks to me like when they are not using Black people as props for policies to maximize developer profits they are calling for them to be locked up and the key thrown away.

To be very honest, my strongest suspicion is that it is a small group of people with little to do and therefore they spend all their time on the internet posting everywhere to proselytize. Overall, it seems that people are getting tired of their sh*t though.

OMG, I am still reading the subreddit and my honest belief is that these "urbanists" are going to flip so hard to reactionary it won't even be funny. They are pretty much libertarian anyway in their view of property rights. But now they are tax payers dealing with the DC bureaucracy. This one is honestly funny, but it is a bit worrying how little chill this guy has.
https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/n5xcas/dpw_can_go_fck_themselves/

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Anonymous wrote:Debating leaving because DC is apparently never going to let our children get a decent education. I can't believe how long schools have been closed here. They're fully open almost everywhere else.

Do you think this was the plan all along? If they leave the schools closed, then for the next 10+ years they'll be able to blame the pandemic for the poor educational outcomes ("Oh well the poor kids missed 2 years of school due to the pandemic, so how can we expect them to pass? We're not to blame for that, it's to be expected!") instead of facing the fact that there are other issues.

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If it is the same people, it looks to me like when they are not using Black people as props for policies to maximize developer profits they are calling for them to be locked up and the key thrown away.

To be very honest, my strongest suspicion is that it is a small group of people with little to do and therefore they spend all their time on the internet posting everywhere to proselytize. Overall, it seems that people are getting tired of their sh*t though.

Oh, the irony.

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Anonymous wrote:30 years ago was 1991, when there were 482 homicides in DC.

Last year (2020), there were 198 homicides.

there are plenty of other violent crimes other than homicide. I am not the OP but have lived in DC since 1996, in all kinds of transitioning neighborhoods. I owned a condo in Columbia Heights in mid 2000s when it seemed like it wsa on upswing. Now its a total shit show. So many homeless and drug addicts, no long viable to have a restaurant at the corner of Kenyon annd 14th. Carjackings have tripled and now 14 year old girls are killing people while they carjack them. Im a liberal but DC council has gotten too soft on crime and want too much low income housing. After 22 years and now a kid in DCPS, I want out too OP.

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Anonymous wrote:30 years ago was 1991, when there were 482 homicides in DC.

Last year (2020), there were 198 homicides.

there are plenty of other violent crimes other than homicide. I am not the OP but have lived in DC since 1996, in all kinds of transitioning neighborhoods. I owned a condo in Columbia Heights in mid 2000s when it seemed like it wsa on upswing. Now its a total shit show. So many homeless and drug addicts, no long viable to have a restaurant at the corner of Kenyon annd 14th. Carjackings have tripled and now 14 year old girls are killing people while they carjack them. Im a liberal but DC council has gotten too soft on crime and want too much low income housing. After 22 years and now a kid in DCPS, I want out too OP.

Thank you for sharing. I’ve personally come to the same conclusion.

I have lived in this area since 1999 and I’ve lived in some of the worst neighborhoods in DC across NW, NE and SW (I drew the line at SE). I think your perception of Columbia Heights may have been warped by the new Target. There was for a long time a small group of homeless men strung out on heroin that lived on Mt. Pleasant (there used to be a methadone clinic on Columbia at 13th or 14th. Pre-Target there was always Sunday prostitution on 13th to catch the church traffic. Malcolm X Park used to be filled with needles. Kids would throw eggs at gentrifying white people near the Boys and Girls Club in 14th. On my block we had regular drive-by shootings. Pre-Wonderland 11th was legitimately dangerous. I also lived in Trinidad during the gang war years and a couple other places.

After a while you get sort of numb to it all. I tell myself that random violence is rare, that so long as I’m smart I’ll be safe. But honestly this murder broke me. The more I started reading about this kid and then the murderer and then how they put the murderer in a psychological facility in Tenleytown and then broke out. After all of this, I just cannot. I don’t think anyone is irredeemable, but how can this city just turn its back on victims? That’s the real tragedy that I just cannot get over.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/shooting-on-good-hope-road-in-southeast-dc/2551069/
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/homicide-suspect-escapes-in-northwest-dc/2621562/

There are no excuses anymore. Even if 198 murders is “better” it’s not good enough. By comparison Montgomery County had 17 with 50% more population.

I’m right there with you as a parent with a young child. This is not something that they need to be exposed to. Exposure to death and violence will not enrich their experience or make them better people. I’ve seen enough for my lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:30 years ago was 1991, when there were 482 homicides in DC.

Last year (2020), there were 198 homicides.

there are plenty of other violent crimes other than homicide. I am not the OP but have lived in DC since 1996, in all kinds of transitioning neighborhoods. I owned a condo in Columbia Heights in mid 2000s when it seemed like it wsa on upswing. Now its a total shit show. So many homeless and drug addicts, no long viable to have a restaurant at the corner of Kenyon annd 14th. Carjackings have tripled and now 14 year old girls are killing people while they carjack them. Im a liberal but DC council has gotten too soft on crime and want too much low income housing. After 22 years and now a kid in DCPS, I want out too OP.

Thank you for sharing. I’ve personally come to the same conclusion.

I have lived in this area since 1999 and I’ve lived in some of the worst neighborhoods in DC across NW, NE and SW (I drew the line at SE). I think your perception of Columbia Heights may have been warped by the new Target. There was for a long time a small group of homeless men strung out on heroin that lived on Mt. Pleasant (there used to be a methadone clinic on Columbia at 13th or 14th. Pre-Target there was always Sunday prostitution on 13th to catch the church traffic. Malcolm X Park used to be filled with needles. Kids would throw eggs at gentrifying white people near the Boys and Girls Club in 14th. On my block we had regular drive-by shootings. Pre-Wonderland 11th was legitimately dangerous. I also lived in Trinidad during the gang war years and a couple other places.

After a while you get sort of numb to it all. I tell myself that random violence is rare, that so long as I’m smart I’ll be safe. But honestly this murder broke me. The more I started reading about this kid and then the murderer and then how they put the murderer in a psychological facility in Tenleytown and then broke out. After all of this, I just cannot. I don’t think anyone is irredeemable, but how can this city just turn its back on victims? That’s the real tragedy that I just cannot get over.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/shooting-on-good-hope-road-in-southeast-dc/2551069/
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/homicide-suspect-escapes-in-northwest-dc/2621562/

There are no excuses anymore. Even if 198 murders is “better” it’s not good enough. By comparison Montgomery County had 17 with 50% more population.

I’m right there with you as a parent with a young child. This is not something that they need to be exposed to. Exposure to death and violence will not enrich their experience or make them better people. I’ve seen enough for my lifetime.

Good luck. I hope you and your child can find a safer place to live.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Been here 18 years.

For me it has been:
- The disaster of the vaccine rollout. Really revealing in terms of city government incompetence.
- The failure to fully reopen schools.
- Crime. Gun violence just blocks away from our home in broad daylight.
- Proximity of Jan. 6th events to our home, the fencing off of the Capitol, the militarization of the city related to political unrest.
- The nonsensical pandemic restrictions. Schools closed, but indoor dining open pre-vaccines. Outdoor mask mandate long after it was clear unnecessary. Mayor issuing and taking back new guidance this weekend. No metrics for when restrictions will be dropped. Mayor refusing to answer reporter questions on.

It's all just so exhausting. Add on top of it, how hard it is to buy a home, get into daycare, buy in a good school district.

I love the city and have really put down roots here through early career to building a family, but at some point it's just not worth it.

I've come to expect incompetence from the local DC government and am genuinely surprised if they don't completely mess up something. Bowser has made a mockery of the mayorship. I'm with you on everything that's bold.

She isn’t the first DC mayor to make a mockery of the mayorship.

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Gee, what point could you be trying to make with this post, it's so subtle it's hard to discern

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Gee, what point could you be trying to make with this post, it's so subtle it's hard to discern

Let’s be real here. A PP pointed out that Bowser has studiously undone all of the hard work of Mayor Williams to bring competence and respectability to DC government. Who do you think Mayor Williams had to rescue the city from?

Smart people are already buying second homes out west in Colorado, Idaho and Utah. The next decade will see a big boon for medium sized cities where a professional couple can enjoy high standards of living.

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Gee, what point could you be trying to make with this post, it's so subtle it's hard to discern

Let’s spend more taxpayer $$ for another statue to honor failure.

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Would be very curious to know what percentage of posters on this thread lived here during the Barry years.

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Anonymous wrote:Would be very curious to know what percentage of posters on this thread lived here during the Barry years.

I did, his second run at mayor then council. He was a total joke then and now. Thats why I think its funny when people want to Mayor to give up control of schools. I remember when Fenty took over schools, yall don;t know how bad it was. the Feds wouldn;t even let half the schools open one year (maybe 98 or 99) cause they were either literally falling down and dangerous or there were no books. I dont care for this mayor at all, but trust me its better than letting a Union controlled school board run the show again.