DCPS exodus

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Anonymous wrote:The actually really rich people in DC already send their children to expensive private schools. Surveys show that the lower-income people don't want to send their students in person. So this issue largely affects the middle class and upper middle class people. Do those people have any political clout, do their tax dollars matter? I'm not sure, but there does seem to be a tipping point, especially now that people cannot responsibly call those in favor of open schools "teacher killers" since teachers (unlike most parents) have access currently to the highly effective vaccines.

Well, the UMC and MC do contribute the most to the income tax totals. According to the above posted link. So one would think their tax dollars do matter. It is convenient, though, to suggest that their desire to have their kids in person in public school is racist. That means they can't advocate for themselves in this highly Dem city.

+1. I desperately want schools to reopen full time, 5 days per week for every student who wants it. But here's the thing: the wealthy already have their kids in private schools, and the lower classes don't advocate for decent education. It's the MC/UMC who have turned around the schools and these are the people who will be forced to suburbs and exurbs to get decent public schools. DCPS is heading towards reverting back to 1990's levels of poor quality schools. DC doesn't care about us and many teachers actually preferred teaching to a predominantly LC community. The only people who will miss us is other MC/UMC people.

I don't agree. Your take is far too cynical for me, PP. Many people would miss an UMC exodus over schools remaining closed in this city. They would included parents all over the SES spectrum who'd see a drop in PTA funds, and the programs they support, at their DCPS, teachers who value teaching diverse classes, neighbors who are sorry to see neighbors flee sinking schools, city officials who worry that the tax base is shrinking etc. etc.

We don’t need whites to be diverse. And my school never had any pta funds so oh well.
There are schools with 100 students, not every school is an overcrowded one.
As for taxes we have people living here making way more than this group, we’ll be ok.
No one, and I mean no one will stop you from leaving. Eventually you’ll just be replaced after the pandemic settles. Just like teachers can replaced so can you. Literally you guys are ridiculous.

I do actually love this thread though, another time white people show us how some of you have your heads waaaay up where the sun doesn’t shine.

Oh yeah? Is just Blacks and Latinos diverse? Because it sure isn’t going to be Asians who are going to fill the spots at your Title 1 school.

I’m literally saying we don’t need white people in our schools for the sake of money or diversity. They are in books, the media, movies, songs, politics, etc. You don’t need a white child beside a child who isn’t for them to get exposure.
And there is no white culture (as most don’t actually have any real European roots) for my child to learn anything from one, so no don’t care. And what part of you’ll just be replaced later did you not get?

I said nothing about nobody replacing white people who leave. I’m also not leaving. Are you responding to someone else, or do you just lack reading comprehension?

No sweetie, I said that and I’ll continue to say it. Only whites care about whites leaving. And probably the money hungry mayor.

Sure. Once again: reading comprehension, as I didn’t dispute that either. My point was your school won’t be racially diverse by any meaningful definition of the word. Whites are a significant part of the DC population, just like Blacks. We are always told a school can’t be diverse without Blacks, which I agree with, but the same is true for whites.

P.S. Inserting a condescending “sweetie” into your post is always evidence of the lack of a strong argument.

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

But no review of if educators think this is feasible?

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Anonymous wrote:The actually really rich people in DC already send their children to expensive private schools. Surveys show that the lower-income people don't want to send their students in person. So this issue largely affects the middle class and upper middle class people. Do those people have any political clout, do their tax dollars matter? I'm not sure, but there does seem to be a tipping point, especially now that people cannot responsibly call those in favor of open schools "teacher killers" since teachers (unlike most parents) have access currently to the highly effective vaccines.

Well, the UMC and MC do contribute the most to the income tax totals. According to the above posted link. So one would think their tax dollars do matter. It is convenient, though, to suggest that their desire to have their kids in person in public school is racist. That means they can't advocate for themselves in this highly Dem city.

+1. I desperately want schools to reopen full time, 5 days per week for every student who wants it. But here's the thing: the wealthy already have their kids in private schools, and the lower classes don't advocate for decent education. It's the MC/UMC who have turned around the schools and these are the people who will be forced to suburbs and exurbs to get decent public schools. DCPS is heading towards reverting back to 1990's levels of poor quality schools. DC doesn't care about us and many teachers actually preferred teaching to a predominantly LC community. The only people who will miss us is other MC/UMC people.

I don't agree. Your take is far too cynical for me, PP. Many people would miss an UMC exodus over schools remaining closed in this city. They would included parents all over the SES spectrum who'd see a drop in PTA funds, and the programs they support, at their DCPS, teachers who value teaching diverse classes, neighbors who are sorry to see neighbors flee sinking schools, city officials who worry that the tax base is shrinking etc. etc.

We don’t need whites to be diverse. And my school never had any pta funds so oh well.
There are schools with 100 students, not every school is an overcrowded one.
As for taxes we have people living here making way more than this group, we’ll be ok.
No one, and I mean no one will stop you from leaving. Eventually you’ll just be replaced after the pandemic settles. Just like teachers can replaced so can you. Literally you guys are ridiculous.

I do actually love this thread though, another time white people show us how some of you have your heads waaaay up where the sun doesn’t shine.

Oh yeah? Is just Blacks and Latinos diverse? Because it sure isn’t going to be Asians who are going to fill the spots at your Title 1 school.

I’m literally saying we don’t need white people in our schools for the sake of money or diversity. They are in books, the media, movies, songs, politics, etc. You don’t need a white child beside a child who isn’t for them to get exposure.
And there is no white culture (as most don’t actually have any real European roots) for my child to learn anything from one, so no don’t care. And what part of you’ll just be replaced later did you not get?

I said nothing about nobody replacing white people who leave. I’m also not leaving. Are you responding to someone else, or do you just lack reading comprehension?

No sweetie, I said that and I’ll continue to say it. Only whites care about whites leaving. And probably the money hungry mayor.

Sure. Once again: reading comprehension, as I didn’t dispute that either. My point was your school won’t be racially diverse by any meaningful definition of the word. Whites are a significant part of the DC population, just like Blacks. We are always told a school can’t be diverse without Blacks, which I agree with, but the same is true for whites.

P.S. Inserting a condescending “sweetie” into your post is always evidence of the lack of a strong argument.

You don’t need white people to be diverse, nothing about you brings anything to the table for other children, not in terms of culture, seeing other white children and realizing differences and accepting it, because white kids are everywhere. So no, we do not need you. Now we are happy to have you because no one should be hateful like that. But it’s much more likely that your child needs diversity more than any POC. Because we’ve seen what white people can and may do when they weren’t exposed to much diversity or don’t believe it’s important.

And the ‘lack of reading comprehension’ quip doesn’t? Pfft, please spare me your BS.

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

But no review of if educators think this is feasible?

Of course it would have been feasible, as has been proven around the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I sincerely don’t care. They are mostly white and salty they now have to pay for private. I do not think for one minute they care about schools.

Too bad sometimes people don’t trust science, shouldn’t have freaking experimented on blacks people. Or hey how about present day where doctors think black women are lying about their pain and have inadvertently killed them and other POC?

Their profession is tainted by racism and capitalism. A hospital exists not to help people heal but help some people get rich.

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I sincerely don’t care. They are mostly white and salty they now have to pay for private. I do not think for one minute they care about schools.

Too bad sometimes people don’t trust science, shouldn’t have freaking experimented on blacks people. Or hey how about present day where doctors think black women are lying about their pain and have inadvertently killed them and other POC?

Their profession is tainted by racism and capitalism. A hospital exists not to help people heal but help some people get rich.

You sound like a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:The actually really rich people in DC already send their children to expensive private schools. Surveys show that the lower-income people don't want to send their students in person. So this issue largely affects the middle class and upper middle class people. Do those people have any political clout, do their tax dollars matter? I'm not sure, but there does seem to be a tipping point, especially now that people cannot responsibly call those in favor of open schools "teacher killers" since teachers (unlike most parents) have access currently to the highly effective vaccines.

Well, the UMC and MC do contribute the most to the income tax totals. According to the above posted link. So one would think their tax dollars do matter. It is convenient, though, to suggest that their desire to have their kids in person in public school is racist. That means they can't advocate for themselves in this highly Dem city.

+1. I desperately want schools to reopen full time, 5 days per week for every student who wants it. But here's the thing: the wealthy already have their kids in private schools, and the lower classes don't advocate for decent education. It's the MC/UMC who have turned around the schools and these are the people who will be forced to suburbs and exurbs to get decent public schools. DCPS is heading towards reverting back to 1990's levels of poor quality schools. DC doesn't care about us and many teachers actually preferred teaching to a predominantly LC community. The only people who will miss us is other MC/UMC people.

I don't agree. Your take is far too cynical for me, PP. Many people would miss an UMC exodus over schools remaining closed in this city. They would included parents all over the SES spectrum who'd see a drop in PTA funds, and the programs they support, at their DCPS, teachers who value teaching diverse classes, neighbors who are sorry to see neighbors flee sinking schools, city officials who worry that the tax base is shrinking etc. etc.

We don’t need whites to be diverse. And my school never had any pta funds so oh well.
There are schools with 100 students, not every school is an overcrowded one.
As for taxes we have people living here making way more than this group, we’ll be ok.
No one, and I mean no one will stop you from leaving. Eventually you’ll just be replaced after the pandemic settles. Just like teachers can replaced so can you. Literally you guys are ridiculous.

I do actually love this thread though, another time white people show us how some of you have your heads waaaay up where the sun doesn’t shine.

Oh yeah? Is just Blacks and Latinos diverse? Because it sure isn’t going to be Asians who are going to fill the spots at your Title 1 school.

I’m literally saying we don’t need white people in our schools for the sake of money or diversity. They are in books, the media, movies, songs, politics, etc. You don’t need a white child beside a child who isn’t for them to get exposure.
And there is no white culture (as most don’t actually have any real European roots) for my child to learn anything from one, so no don’t care. And what part of you’ll just be replaced later did you not get?

I said nothing about nobody replacing white people who leave. I’m also not leaving. Are you responding to someone else, or do you just lack reading comprehension?

No sweetie, I said that and I’ll continue to say it. Only whites care about whites leaving. And probably the money hungry mayor.

Sure. Once again: reading comprehension, as I didn’t dispute that either. My point was your school won’t be racially diverse by any meaningful definition of the word. Whites are a significant part of the DC population, just like Blacks. We are always told a school can’t be diverse without Blacks, which I agree with, but the same is true for whites.

P.S. Inserting a condescending “sweetie” into your post is always evidence of the lack of a strong argument.

You don’t need white people to be diverse, nothing about you brings anything to the table for other children, not in terms of culture, seeing other white children and realizing differences and accepting it, because white kids are everywhere. So no, we do not need you. Now we are happy to have you because no one should be hateful like that. But it’s much more likely that your child needs diversity more than any POC. Because we’ve seen what white people can and may do when they weren’t exposed to much diversity or don’t believe it’s important.

And the ‘lack of reading comprehension’ quip doesn’t? Pfft, please spare me your BS.

I wasn’t making an argument about whether POC need diversity or not. I was making an argument about whether a DC school without white people can be called diverse or not. You keep arguing against things I didn’t say, hence my comment about your reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I sincerely don’t care. They are mostly white and salty they now have to pay for private. I do not think for one minute they care about schools.

Too bad sometimes people don’t trust science, shouldn’t have freaking experimented on blacks people. Or hey how about present day where doctors think black women are lying about their pain and have inadvertently killed them and other POC?

Their profession is tainted by racism and capitalism. A hospital exists not to help people heal but help some people get rich.

You sound like a moron.

Not quite fair to morons...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I sincerely don’t care. They are mostly white and salty they now have to pay for private. I do not think for one minute they care about schools.

Too bad sometimes people don’t trust science, shouldn’t have freaking experimented on blacks people. Or hey how about present day where doctors think black women are lying about their pain and have inadvertently killed them and other POC?

Their profession is tainted by racism and capitalism. A hospital exists not to help people heal but help some people get rich.

You sound like a moron.

And you’re a white pig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

Very well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The actually really rich people in DC already send their children to expensive private schools. Surveys show that the lower-income people don't want to send their students in person. So this issue largely affects the middle class and upper middle class people. Do those people have any political clout, do their tax dollars matter? I'm not sure, but there does seem to be a tipping point, especially now that people cannot responsibly call those in favor of open schools "teacher killers" since teachers (unlike most parents) have access currently to the highly effective vaccines.

Well, the UMC and MC do contribute the most to the income tax totals. According to the above posted link. So one would think their tax dollars do matter. It is convenient, though, to suggest that their desire to have their kids in person in public school is racist. That means they can't advocate for themselves in this highly Dem city.

+1. I desperately want schools to reopen full time, 5 days per week for every student who wants it. But here's the thing: the wealthy already have their kids in private schools, and the lower classes don't advocate for decent education. It's the MC/UMC who have turned around the schools and these are the people who will be forced to suburbs and exurbs to get decent public schools. DCPS is heading towards reverting back to 1990's levels of poor quality schools. DC doesn't care about us and many teachers actually preferred teaching to a predominantly LC community. The only people who will miss us is other MC/UMC people.

I don't agree. Your take is far too cynical for me, PP. Many people would miss an UMC exodus over schools remaining closed in this city. They would included parents all over the SES spectrum who'd see a drop in PTA funds, and the programs they support, at their DCPS, teachers who value teaching diverse classes, neighbors who are sorry to see neighbors flee sinking schools, city officials who worry that the tax base is shrinking etc. etc.

We don’t need whites to be diverse. And my school never had any pta funds so oh well.
There are schools with 100 students, not every school is an overcrowded one.
As for taxes we have people living here making way more than this group, we’ll be ok.
No one, and I mean no one will stop you from leaving. Eventually you’ll just be replaced after the pandemic settles. Just like teachers can replaced so can you. Literally you guys are ridiculous.

I do actually love this thread though, another time white people show us how some of you have your heads waaaay up where the sun doesn’t shine.

Oh yeah? Is just Blacks and Latinos diverse? Because it sure isn’t going to be Asians who are going to fill the spots at your Title 1 school.

I’m literally saying we don’t need white people in our schools for the sake of money or diversity. They are in books, the media, movies, songs, politics, etc. You don’t need a white child beside a child who isn’t for them to get exposure.
And there is no white culture (as most don’t actually have any real European roots) for my child to learn anything from one, so no don’t care. And what part of you’ll just be replaced later did you not get?

I said nothing about nobody replacing white people who leave. I’m also not leaving. Are you responding to someone else, or do you just lack reading comprehension?

No sweetie, I said that and I’ll continue to say it. Only whites care about whites leaving. And probably the money hungry mayor.

Sure. Once again: reading comprehension, as I didn’t dispute that either. My point was your school won’t be racially diverse by any meaningful definition of the word. Whites are a significant part of the DC population, just like Blacks. We are always told a school can’t be diverse without Blacks, which I agree with, but the same is true for whites.

P.S. Inserting a condescending “sweetie” into your post is always evidence of the lack of a strong argument.

You don’t need white people to be diverse, nothing about you brings anything to the table for other children, not in terms of culture, seeing other white children and realizing differences and accepting it, because white kids are everywhere. So no, we do not need you. Now we are happy to have you because no one should be hateful like that. But it’s much more likely that your child needs diversity more than any POC. Because we’ve seen what white people can and may do when they weren’t exposed to much diversity or don’t believe it’s important.

And the ‘lack of reading comprehension’ quip doesn’t? Pfft, please spare me your BS.

I wasn’t making an argument about whether POC need diversity or not. I was making an argument about whether a DC school without white people can be called diverse or not. You keep arguing against things I didn’t say, hence my comment about your reading comprehension.

I don’t care what argument you were making sweetie, I only care about what I’m saying. Since you can’t comprehend what I am saying I really can’t be bothered to reply to exactly what you are. Either way you can actually just leave DC. This whole thread is literally about how mostly upper middle class whites will leave and omg what will happen to all those poor black kids. Lol. So sick, and I need to stop saying white people when it’s mostly white women. Just enjoy being a SAHM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

Yea and some people feel this is a way to kill more black people. Doctors are not the most trustworthy people. History is history and the present says a lot too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

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