DCPS exodus

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

Yea and some people feel this is a way to kill more black people. Doctors are not the most trustworthy people. History is history and the present says a lot too.

Except when you're really sick, or one of your loved ones is deathly ill, you'll rush to a hospital and demand a doctor make everything right.

I think the real issue here is you don't want to have to actually do your job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:The actually really rich people in DC already send their children to expensive private schools. Surveys show that the lower-income people don't want to send their students in person. So this issue largely affects the middle class and upper middle class people. Do those people have any political clout, do their tax dollars matter? I'm not sure, but there does seem to be a tipping point, especially now that people cannot responsibly call those in favor of open schools "teacher killers" since teachers (unlike most parents) have access currently to the highly effective vaccines.

Well, the UMC and MC do contribute the most to the income tax totals. According to the above posted link. So one would think their tax dollars do matter. It is convenient, though, to suggest that their desire to have their kids in person in public school is racist. That means they can't advocate for themselves in this highly Dem city.

+1. I desperately want schools to reopen full time, 5 days per week for every student who wants it. But here's the thing: the wealthy already have their kids in private schools, and the lower classes don't advocate for decent education. It's the MC/UMC who have turned around the schools and these are the people who will be forced to suburbs and exurbs to get decent public schools. DCPS is heading towards reverting back to 1990's levels of poor quality schools. DC doesn't care about us and many teachers actually preferred teaching to a predominantly LC community. The only people who will miss us is other MC/UMC people.

I don't agree. Your take is far too cynical for me, PP. Many people would miss an UMC exodus over schools remaining closed in this city. They would included parents all over the SES spectrum who'd see a drop in PTA funds, and the programs they support, at their DCPS, teachers who value teaching diverse classes, neighbors who are sorry to see neighbors flee sinking schools, city officials who worry that the tax base is shrinking etc. etc.

We don’t need whites to be diverse. And my school never had any pta funds so oh well.
There are schools with 100 students, not every school is an overcrowded one.
As for taxes we have people living here making way more than this group, we’ll be ok.
No one, and I mean no one will stop you from leaving. Eventually you’ll just be replaced after the pandemic settles. Just like teachers can replaced so can you. Literally you guys are ridiculous.

I do actually love this thread though, another time white people show us how some of you have your heads waaaay up where the sun doesn’t shine.

Oh yeah? Is just Blacks and Latinos diverse? Because it sure isn’t going to be Asians who are going to fill the spots at your Title 1 school.

I’m literally saying we don’t need white people in our schools for the sake of money or diversity. They are in books, the media, movies, songs, politics, etc. You don’t need a white child beside a child who isn’t for them to get exposure.
And there is no white culture (as most don’t actually have any real European roots) for my child to learn anything from one, so no don’t care. And what part of you’ll just be replaced later did you not get?

I said nothing about nobody replacing white people who leave. I’m also not leaving. Are you responding to someone else, or do you just lack reading comprehension?

No sweetie, I said that and I’ll continue to say it. Only whites care about whites leaving. And probably the money hungry mayor.

Ah yes, I too like to pretend that increased segregation and white flight have no impact on public schools. Thank you dear sweetie honey bunny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

But no review of if educators think this is feasible?

The National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine, together with the National Academy of Education put out a very long report about how to re-open schools.

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Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

Very well said.

Honestly, it has become very clear that teachers do not respect any expertise.

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Stop having the excuse of anything in a school be “teachers know nothing” about how schools works.


Either the argument is teachers know nothing and do nothing except to reopen school full force so your child can not have the learning loss they are getting from being around these stupid horrible teachers

And yes yes if you don’t get your way we won’t have to deal w you any more and we will be really sorry. Yes. Woe is me and all the teachers in upper northwest who won’t benefit from your wisdom .

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Anonymous wrote:Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

Epidemiologists and air flow experts have already figured this out.

Also, I don't understand this dumb argument that an epidemiologist has no idea how classrooms run so we can't do it safely. No one who makes this argument has any idea how research and policy work is conducted. "oh ho ho! come quick to the computer, dave! i've discovered a flaw in the research that the top epidemiologists in the country haven't discovered! it turns out that when they said classroom, they only investigated auto shops!" Like your soggy banana brain was the first one to come up with the idea of having stakeholders at the table of a steering committee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

Actually, epidemiologists know this. This is what epidemiology is. It's really aggravating how teachers WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING *AT ALL* ABOUT CORONAVIRUS are suddenly pretending to be experts on how diseases spread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

Epidemiologists and air flow experts have already figured this out.

Also, I don't understand this dumb argument that an epidemiologist has no idea how classrooms run so we can't do it safely. No one who makes this argument has any idea how research and policy work is conducted. "oh ho ho! come quick to the computer, dave! i've discovered a flaw in the research that the top epidemiologists in the country haven't discovered! it turns out that when they said classroom, they only investigated auto shops!" Like your soggy banana brain was the first one to come up with the idea of having stakeholders at the table of a steering committee.

Great oh wise one. If a teacher can’t have air flow in her classroom what should she do?

My son’s kinder and pre-K 4 classrooms had balconies so great air flow and they all got outside when it rained. But the other eco classrooms only have half windows and some
Can’t open - then what? Don’t use those rooms?

I’m not saying teachers should shut it down but saying work w them and trust their expertise

It would be done for other professions just not this one

And I’m not a teacher. Just a teacher lover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop having the excuse of anything in a school be “teachers know nothing” about how schools works.


Either the argument is teachers know nothing and do nothing except to reopen school full force so your child can not have the learning loss they are getting from being around these stupid horrible teachers

And yes yes if you don’t get your way we won’t have to deal w you any more and we will be really sorry. Yes. Woe is me and all the teachers in upper northwest who won’t benefit from your wisdom .

Could you rephrase? This comment made no sense, especially the part where you have an "either" but no "or." I mean, I get it that you're not concerned about the well-known effects of segregation on racial achievement gaps, but it's really hard to make fun of your argument when you've forgotten to write at least half of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

Epidemiologists and air flow experts have already figured this out.

Also, I don't understand this dumb argument that an epidemiologist has no idea how classrooms run so we can't do it safely. No one who makes this argument has any idea how research and policy work is conducted. "oh ho ho! come quick to the computer, dave! i've discovered a flaw in the research that the top epidemiologists in the country haven't discovered! it turns out that when they said classroom, they only investigated auto shops!" Like your soggy banana brain was the first one to come up with the idea of having stakeholders at the table of a steering committee.

Great oh wise one. If a teacher can’t have air flow in her classroom what should she do?

My son’s kinder and pre-K 4 classrooms had balconies so great air flow and they all got outside when it rained. But the other eco classrooms only have half windows and some
Can’t open - then what? Don’t use those rooms?

I’m not saying teachers should shut it down but saying work w them and trust their expertise

It would be done for other professions just not this one

And I’m not a teacher. Just a teacher lover.

Well, the teacher could read the easily googleable CDC documents about the options available for air exchange or filtration in the classroom. Like literally spend at least 2 minutes thinking about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because teachers know how classrooms run in reality where an epidemiologist doesn’t. A teacher knows if they can open the window or 14 year old boys rough house or kindergartners might take off a mask. And after teachers explain why something is or not feasible they scientists can adjust the guidelines. Not to accommodate what the teachers said but to understand how the classroom functions and what needs to happen to make it safe.

If a teacher can’t open her windows does a portable HVAC work, is a fan a bad idea, should the class double mask or have 6 feet? If windows can open then maybe 3 feet.

Actually, epidemiologists know this. This is what epidemiology is. It's really aggravating how teachers WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING *AT ALL* ABOUT CORONAVIRUS are suddenly pretending to be experts on how diseases spread.

If a teacher has been vaccinated, it doesnt matter. If you've been vaccinated, the risk of you dying or being hospitalized from coronavirus is basically zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The New York Times did a large survey of health experts on school re-openings. Here's what they said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/upshot/covid-opening-schools-experts.html

TL;DR: Doctors think teachers are morons and that schools should have opened a long time ago.

I don't understand why anyone cares whether teachers think it's safe to go back to the classroom.

What do they know? They have zero relevant expertise. They don't know anything about coronavirus except what they read on some blog their friend from high school writes.

Leave it to the doctors to figure out. They've only spent their entire professional lives studying how diseases spread.

This

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop having the excuse of anything in a school be “teachers know nothing” about how schools works.


Either the argument is teachers know nothing and do nothing except to reopen school full force so your child can not have the learning loss they are getting from being around these stupid horrible teachers

And yes yes if you don’t get your way we won’t have to deal w you any more and we will be really sorry. Yes. Woe is me and all the teachers in upper northwest who won’t benefit from your wisdom .

Could you rephrase? This comment made no sense, especially the part where you have an "either" but no "or." I mean, I get it that you're not concerned about the well-known effects of segregation on racial achievement gaps, but it's really hard to make fun of your argument when you've forgotten to write at least half of it.

I do love it when someone loses track of their argument halfway through constructing it.