AEM is not happy about SB1303

[Anonymous]

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Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

Most of Europe is open and so is most of this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

Most of Europe is open and so is most of this country.

And so is APS.

Only 1/3rd of US students are full time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

This is funny, as many schools throughout the country have been open without major consequences. It’s been demonstrated that schools aren’t a significant source of spread.

I like how people claim to want to follow science, except when someone like Fauci says that schools should open. Ohhhh-K.

I think PP is right. It’s time to leave this sinking ship! I used to think that homeschooling was for weird anti-social types, but not anymore. Those that have the time and money can’t rely on APS anymore. (Only worsened by the pandemic. APS has been going downhill for quite some time.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

Most of Europe is open and so is most of this country.

And so is APS.

Only 1/3rd of US students are full time.

Sorry it's <50% have the option for full-time.

More recent update:
https://info.burbio.com/school-tracker-update-mar-8/

The data is wonky (weirdly calculated) but the only thing I could find.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Were you ready to have kids go 5 days/week back in January?

Opening schools 5 days/week if the numbers haven't come down and teachers aren't all vaccinated is reckless. Doing so just to cater to "good" wealthy families is disgusting.

Open schools 5 days/week when it's safe, not just because someone is threatening to leave.

This is funny, as many schools throughout the country have been open without major consequences. It’s been demonstrated that schools aren’t a significant source of spread.

I like how people claim to want to follow science, except when someone like Fauci says that schools should open. Ohhhh-K.

I think PP is right. It’s time to leave this sinking ship! I used to think that homeschooling was for weird anti-social types, but not anymore. Those that have the time and money can’t rely on APS anymore. (Only worsened by the pandemic. APS has been going downhill for quite some time.)

OK, BYE!

Many kids are ALREADY going in-person in APS - according to CDC guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Yes, the pandemic has really had a big impact on education and families.

BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore CDC guidelines and prematurely fill our schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Yes, the pandemic has really had a big impact on education and families.

BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore CDC guidelines and prematurely fill our schools.

Kids aren't getting vaccinated (at least elementary) for months, potentially years. They need to get back full-time once all adults have been vaccinated (at least those that want the vaccine).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Where??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Yes, the pandemic has really had a big impact on education and families.

BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore CDC guidelines and prematurely fill our schools.

We are also homeschooling this year and next. Potentially longer if it goes well. DL has been a disaster and with all of the wealthy families leaving, these schools are going to be in really bad shape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Where??

DP. I don't know if I'm at the same school as pp, but in our NW elementary school, almost all of the executive board, including the positions that usually feed into the president position, have decided to step down after this year. It's not due to any internal strife that I know of, but is simply because they are all exhausted and burned out, and just can't do it again next year if we might still be on this hybrid schedule. Most of them are working parents, and I can't blame them at all for giving it up because this is all too much. If they can't find anyone to fill those roles for next year, or if they can only find people who will agree to serve if the PTA's activities are scaled back considerably, that will have a major impact on what the PTA can do for the school.

None of that means I'm on board with all of the comments made in this thread, because some of them have been really gross. But I am concerned that this is a symptom of the extent to which the current status of schools is breaking families with school-aged children. And if highly-resourced families are breaking, I have to imagine it's even worse for families with fewer resources.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t bite the hand that contributes to programs that benefit your kids.

Better give those families special treatment.....or else!

So disgusting.

In-person school 5 days per week is special treatment?! LOL

OPEN SCHOOLS NOW is irrational, special treatment

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it. Just like those with means are entitled to leave an average (at best) school system. Unfortunately, their departure will have a negative impact on your school’s resources. Equity isn’t so great when it means everyone has equal access to a sh!tty product.

We should be making decisions for the greater good, not just to cater to "the hands that feeds you".

That was the whole point of the initial comment. It wasn't about opening schools for everyone. It was opening schools OR ELSE.

As if the 2 day vs. 5 day in person would even make a difference to most of those people.

Of course the schools should be open for everyone. What a ridiculous comment.

I’m a big believer in natural consequences. My kid doesn’t want to wear a coat? Fine, but it’s not my problem when you get cold.

Don’t want to open schools? Fine, but don’t be shocked when those with the resources to do so end up leaving. The question is: who remains? Plenty of very nice families, but unfortunately very few with the means to contribute financially to the schools in any meaningful way. (And some of you complain when your school is 50% FRL. What’s that school going to be like when that changes to 80-90%?)

Our entire PTA has practically been wiped out. I'm learning of new families leaving APS every day. Not all are going private, many are moving in with their families where school is open full time.

Yes, the pandemic has really had a big impact on education and families.

BUT that doesn’t mean we ignore CDC guidelines and prematurely fill our schools.

Kids aren't getting vaccinated (at least elementary) for months, potentially years. They need to get back full-time once all adults have been vaccinated (at least those that want the vaccine).

And after the #s come down, per the CDC. Might be this spring. More likely the fall.