The Crown - season 4

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Anonymous wrote:I also watched Diana in her own words right after bingeing the Crown and was shocked at how much less drama Diana herself seemed to carry than the show. I think the show is absolutely making things out to be worse than they were for her. I love the crown, but I’m a little uneasy with the super negative portrayals of the more modern monarchy.

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And having Princess Anne refer to a “revolving door” of men re: Diana was really below the belt. She was only known to be involved with two men - Hewitt and her bodyguard. They made her sound like a tramp - not fair at all, considering Charles was having an affair with Camilla throughout the entire marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also watched Diana in her own words right after bingeing the Crown and was shocked at how much less drama Diana herself seemed to carry than the show. I think the show is absolutely making things out to be worse than they were for her. I love the crown, but I’m a little uneasy with the super negative portrayals of the more modern monarchy.

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And having Princess Anne refer to a “revolving door” of men re: Diana was really below the belt. She was only known to be involved with two men - Hewitt and her bodyguard. They made her sound like a tramp - not fair at all, considering Charles was having an affair with Camilla throughout the entire marriage.

No I'm sorry the British knew about a slew of other men including actors, musicians, etc some of whom have only years later admitted to it. It was indeed a revolving door and considered part of a mania that she went through at that time.

[Anonymous]

I didn't realize Margaret Thatcher had so much disdain for women, including her own daughter. And her hero worship of her father was disturbingly extreme in the way it created such an inflexible world view.

I'd also be really curious to know the truth about her relationship with her son and the way she exempted him from her individualistic bootstraps expectations.

If anyone has seen any good good write-ups about how much of The Crown adheres to what is publicly known about Thatcher, I'd be interested in any links. Most of what I've read is more about how accurately it reflects the truth about the royal family.

[Anonymous]

I wonder why on earth Harry and Meghan signed a deal with Netflix, seeing how The Crown portrays Charles and Diana in such an unflattering light. I would have thought that would be a no-go for Harry?

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Anonymous wrote:My wife and I want to watch The Crown but read that the TV-MA rating is partly for nudity.

We're not comfortable watching shows with a lot of sex, so how much of that is there in The Crown?

I have zero recollection of there being any, so it must have been fast and very forgettable.

I remember some nudity in the first season. I don't remember any nudity in the 4th season. I don't remember any sex at all, other than implied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why on earth Harry and Meghan signed a deal with Netflix, seeing how The Crown portrays Charles and Diana in such an unflattering light. I would have thought that would be a no-go for Harry?

He’s getting his $$$$

[Anonymous]

It's sad that Charles and Camilla brought this 19 year old girl into their terrible situation without full disclosure. Diana thought she was getting a real marriage and a real husband when she said yes. Then it was too late.
Charles and Camilla should have stopped their affair once he got married.
Diana would still have been imperfect but for someone with her insecurities, the rejection and cheating was intolerable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that Charles and Camilla brought this 19 year old girl into their terrible situation without full disclosure. Diana thought she was getting a real marriage and a real husband when she said yes. Then it was too late.
Charles and Camilla should have stopped their affair once he got married.
Diana would still have been imperfect but for someone with her insecurities, the rejection and cheating was intolerable.

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And where was her mother or someone who could truthfully level with her about what this marriage would actually be like? She really had no one to advise her at all.

I was so angry when the queen and Philip called a meeting with Charles and Diana and the queen called Diana out on her affairs - but not one word to Charles about his *mistress*. She did call him out in private when it was just the two of them, but she should have spoken up in front of Diana instead of making only Diana apologize and promise to do better. Sheesh - what about Charles?

Though I have to wonder whether these conversations actually took place. That’s something we’ll never know.

[Anonymous]

I was surprised they didn’t show Diana’s friendship with Fergie at all. By all accounts, they were best friends. In fact, Fergie was barely even mentioned. She and Andrew had quite the scandalous divorce too - I wonder if that will be covered next season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that Charles and Camilla brought this 19 year old girl into their terrible situation without full disclosure. Diana thought she was getting a real marriage and a real husband when she said yes. Then it was too late.
Charles and Camilla should have stopped their affair once he got married.
Diana would still have been imperfect but for someone with her insecurities, the rejection and cheating was intolerable.

+1
And where was her mother or someone who could truthfully level with her about what this marriage would actually be like? She really had no one to advise her at all.

I was so angry when the queen and Philip called a meeting with Charles and Diana and the queen called Diana out on her affairs - but not one word to Charles about his *mistress*. She did call him out in private when it was just the two of them, but she should have spoken up in front of Diana instead of making only Diana apologize and promise to do better. Sheesh - what about Charles?

Though I have to wonder whether these conversations actually took place. That’s something we’ll never know.

This is something I didn't understand either. Was it because her Grandmother was there "training her." I'm assuming the Spencer's thought it was a privilege that she was the chosen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was surprised they didn’t show Diana’s friendship with Fergie at all. By all accounts, they were best friends. In fact, Fergie was barely even mentioned. She and Andrew had quite the scandalous divorce too - I wonder if that will be covered next season.

Maybe it will show up in the next season. From what I remember they were simply clubbers together - they went out and danced and got drunk. Not the most fascinating stuff really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why on earth Harry and Meghan signed a deal with Netflix, seeing how The Crown portrays Charles and Diana in such an unflattering light. I would have thought that would be a no-go for Harry?

Interesting. I wonder if that has caused family friction.

[Anonymous]

I guess the Royals ‘never complain, never explain’ doesn’t apply to the Prince of Wales and his mistress

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why on earth Harry and Meghan signed a deal with Netflix, seeing how The Crown portrays Charles and Diana in such an unflattering light. I would have thought that would be a no-go for Harry?

Interesting. I wonder if that has caused family friction.

If it did maybe the family should be questioning why William is holding an exhibition for a Netflix film at Kensington Palace

[Anonymous]

Camilla vs Diana: Why Prince Charles always swirled back to 'home-wrecker' girlfriend

https://www.thenews.com.pk/amp/750567-camilla-vs-diana-why-prince-charles-found-himself-running-back-to-home-wrecker-girlfriend