I understand the need for "Empowering Males of Color", but the tone of this is exclusive offensive

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Anonymous wrote:If u don't like then u prob shouldn't live in a "chocolate city"

Awesome. They should put that on the flier.

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Anonymous wrote:If u don't like then u prob shouldn't live in a "chocolate city"

It ain’t Chocolate City anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:If u don't like then u prob shouldn't live in a "chocolate city"

It ain’t Chocolate City anymore.

DCPS enrollment is 80% black and latino. Whites are 15%. "Other" (Asians?) is 5%.

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Anonymous wrote:Are asians POC?

Depends on melanin measurements.

Here's a video of some Japanese pop stars. Their skin color is paler than my "white" friends from Italy:

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Anonymous wrote:The actual flyer does not say white people aren't welcome, it just invites POC to attend. I wish DCPS would just add that all are welcome so as not to invite the litigation risk from people like OP.

Don’t worry they’d 100% lose and then be shunned by all non-racists. This is DC.

No, if a serious law firm took it, then almost certainly DCPS would settle in some way, because this sort of lawsuit would draw press attention they don't want and be expensive to defend. They'd probably end up cancelling or rebranding the program in an unhelpful way. If they said all were welcome but just invited POCs, no serious law firm -- even a conservative one -- would take the case; as currently phrased, some annoying conservative shop looking to make a point probably would.

They wouldn’t be a serious law firm if they took it. That is why I made that statement with confidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Are asians POC?

Depends on melanin measurements.

Here's a video of some Japanese pop stars. Their skin color is paler than my "white" friends from Italy:

POC refers to non-white people, as a Japanese person myself I am afforded privilege but not as much as European Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think asking questions about this event makes anybody a racist. That is crazy and throwing around the term so casually really makes it difficult for people to engage in a meaningful conversation.

I mean, what do you want to discuss? The finer legal points about how you could bring a reverse discrimination lawsuit? The need to block black kids from getting support tailored to their lives? The fact that your white child feels excluded? You want a White Empowerment seminar for your child?

About the ONLY thing people of good will have to discuss here is the fact that DCPS would be well-advised to add an asterisk “all are welcome” to deal with the new “concerned” citizens, and hope for the best there is no trolling or disruption.

Is anyone suggesting blocking Black kids from these opportunities? Why not extend the invitation to every child? Why perpetuate the division?

why do you think resources and education tailored to black kids is “division”? do you believe your white child not being able to go to this event or have a white empowerment event is as harmful as black kids educational disparities? do you think your white child needs additional consideration and resources to address disparities based on race? finally, do you actually feel offended at the idea of a black-only event? why?

So you agree no one is suggesting blocking Black kids from these opportunities?

Of course they are trying to block this. The current crusade by Trump/Breitbart is to deem all discussion about race as “racist” and ban it from the public sphrere. They don’t want white kids to be allowed to go to black youth empowerment seminars. They want to ban black youth empowerment seminars.

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I guess let’s cancel those workshops for kids with disabilities too, we didn’t explicitly invite typical kids.

Guess we should cancel latinx events we didn’t specifically invite everyone.

Guess we should celebrate black, Asian, latinx months because there is no white history month.

I feel so sorry for people who don’t understand, you are so privileged you don’t understand and act as if you’re being excluded from something that for once isn’t about you.

I’m glad this is what you feel like is a big problem., it’s very telling and quite frankly pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:If u don't like then u prob shouldn't live in a "chocolate city"

It ain’t Chocolate City anymore.

DCPS enrollment is 80% black and latino. Whites are 15%. "Other" (Asians?) is 5%.

DCPS =\= DC

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Anonymous wrote:Seems innocuous. What about it did you find offensive? Are you also offended by the "young women as leaders" part?

It does not all student are encouraged to attend, which is what it should say. It says students of color are invited. That seems exclusive to me. So if you are an aspiring leader who is white, then it implies you are not invited. This from the Department of Equity SMH

It is exclusive. Get over it. You’re not in the Congressional Black Caucus or Daughters of the American revolution. How about LGBT meeting boards? You aren’t invited to everything. GET OVER IT

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Anonymous wrote:Seems innocuous. What about it did you find offensive? Are you also offended by the "young women as leaders" part?

It does not all student are encouraged to attend, which is what it should say. It says students of color are invited. That seems exclusive to me. So if you are an aspiring leader who is white, then it implies you are not invited. This from the Department of Equity SMH

It is exclusive. Get over it. You’re not in the Congressional Black Caucus or Daughters of the American revolution. How about LGBT meeting boards? You aren’t invited to everything. GET OVER IT

Exclusivity is not OK when it’s in a public school.

[Anonymous]

I don't know if someone has already posted something similar, but this is a helpful document from the US Department of Education to help people understand why the program is not illegal or racist.

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-education-secretary-announces-guidance-ensure-all-students-have-equal-access-

In particular:
Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources. In addition, they must not implement policies or practices for providing educational resources that disproportionately affect students of a particular race, color or national origin, absent a substantial justification. The law does not require that all students receive the exact same resources to have an equal chance to learn and achieve. It does, however, require that all students have equal access to comparable resources in light of their educational needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if someone has already posted something similar, but this is a helpful document from the US Department of Education to help people understand why the program is not illegal or racist.

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-education-secretary-announces-guidance-ensure-all-students-have-equal-access-

In particular:
Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources. In addition, they must not implement policies or practices for providing educational resources that disproportionately affect students of a particular race, color or national origin, absent a substantial justification. The law does not require that all students receive the exact same resources to have an equal chance to learn and achieve. It does, however, require that all students have equal access to comparable resources in light of their educational needs.

And I point to this sentence: Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources.

I posted above that I don’t have a problem with this program but they need to make it clear that is open to everyone. that’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if someone has already posted something similar, but this is a helpful document from the US Department of Education to help people understand why the program is not illegal or racist.

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-education-secretary-announces-guidance-ensure-all-students-have-equal-access-

In particular:
Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources. In addition, they must not implement policies or practices for providing educational resources that disproportionately affect students of a particular race, color or national origin, absent a substantial justification. The law does not require that all students receive the exact same resources to have an equal chance to learn and achieve. It does, however, require that all students have equal access to comparable resources in light of their educational needs.

And I point to this sentence: Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources.

I posted above that I don’t have a problem with this program but they need to make it clear that is open to everyone. that’s it.

Again, are you suggesting that white students need specific events to address empowerment? Do you think that their needs are the same as Black students in DC?

I think the opportunity gap is very easy to demonstrate. It's in studies all over the place here.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if someone has already posted something similar, but this is a helpful document from the US Department of Education to help people understand why the program is not illegal or racist.

https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-education-secretary-announces-guidance-ensure-all-students-have-equal-access-

In particular:
Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources. In addition, they must not implement policies or practices for providing educational resources that disproportionately affect students of a particular race, color or national origin, absent a substantial justification. The law does not require that all students receive the exact same resources to have an equal chance to learn and achieve. It does, however, require that all students have equal access to comparable resources in light of their educational needs.

And I point to this sentence: Under Title VI, states, school districts and schools must not intentionally treat students differently based on race, color or national origin in providing educational resources.

I posted above that I don’t have a problem with this program but they need to make it clear that is open to everyone. that’s it.

Where does it explicitly state they aren’t? Get over yourself.