Kyle Rittenhouse: Vigilante White Men

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

We don't live in a law school hypothetical. We live in America, where there are mass shootings everywhere, where children have lockdown drills starting in kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trayvon Martin

Trayvon Martin was 17. White society didn’t give a damn. Now folks care about age when it’s a white supremacist with a rifle murdering 2 people.

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Self-defense is different than wanting to disarm a shooter and save lives.

Both are reasonable goals in modern America. Lots of mass shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

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Run, Hide, Fight

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Anonymous wrote:Trayvon Martin

Trayvon Martin was 17. White society didn’t give a damn. Now folks care about age when it’s a white supremacist with a rifle murdering 2 people.

The only reason I care about this horrible terrorist’s age is because it makes his open carry illegal. I hope he gets the severest penalty available.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

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Run, Hide, Fight

OMG you are not supposed to chase down an armed attacker if you are unarmed. Maybe you are very confident in your empty hand skills because of all of your Tae Bo experience? You are supposed to run the OTHER way duhhh! And this isn't a mass shooting, so it's not really relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

+1

Run, Hide, Fight

OMG you are not supposed to chase down an armed attacker if you are unarmed. Maybe you are very confident in your empty hand skills because of all of your Tae Bo experience? You are supposed to run the OTHER way duhhh! And this isn't a mass shooting, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, you are supposed to disarm the shooter nowadays. And maybe these people stopped him from shooting more protestors. Maybe he would have shot more if he hadn't been tackled and threatened. Maybe they saved many lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

+1

Run, Hide, Fight

OMG you are not supposed to chase down an armed attacker if you are unarmed. Maybe you are very confident in your empty hand skills because of all of your Tae Bo experience? You are supposed to run the OTHER way duhhh! And this isn't a mass shooting, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, you are supposed to disarm the shooter nowadays. And maybe these people stopped him from shooting more protestors. Maybe he would have shot more if he hadn't been tackled and threatened. Maybe they saved many lives.

If this wasn't a BLM protest these protesters would have been called heroes for disarming or attempting to disarm a gunman. That this is not the narrative, that people are trying every which way to make Rittenhouse a victim, tells you all you need to know about racism in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:If the shooter had different-colored skin, the third victim would have been deemed a hero by the right for trying to disarm him with his own concealed Glock. The second victim would have been deemed a hero for trying to take him down with his skateboard.

Curious who the kid called after he killed the first person. And can you really KILL someone for grabbing you?! (We also don't know what happened before the video started)

And that was a plastic grocery bag with a light-ish object in it. It wasn't on fire and it certainly wasn't a Molotov cocktail.

I won’t speculate on Your other comments. The bag was on fire and look at how it flattened out and skidded when it hit the ground. That’s consistent with a liquid in the bag. Is your theory that somebody threw garbage at him while chasing him and then continued to chase him after the first shot?

Like I said above, people will see what they want to see (including me).

If only Kyle had been following the law...

Wonder what wil happen to his dad. A cop who knowingly committed a felony that directly led to multiple deaths.

If only the people shot had been following the law....

As for his dad, a lot of it will depend on whether Kyle is convicted or not. Think of it this way: if Kyle’s dad gave minor Kyle a gun and minor Kyle killed two home intruders in his home, nothing would happen to his dad. All of this is going to come down to whether Kyle was acting in self defense.

He illegally transported an illegal gun across state lines and fled the scene. Self-dfense doesn't even come into play because he committed multiple felonies just being there while armed.

Why would someone travel to another state’s protest armed unless you planned on killing someone? He was planning on killing protesters. He is a terrorist and should be charged as a terrorist.

The prosecutor will certainly argue that. The defense will say he is just a stupid kid who got in over his head.

The Prosecutor will not argue that. Or anything. The prosecutor announced today at 5 pm ET that unless there is pre-prosecution evidence at the beyond-reasonable-doubt level, there will be no cases brought. The prosecutor typically acts on the basis of probable cause plus interests-of-justice. The prosecutor has already decided to throw all of the cases.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch what you are using as an argument. If it’s considered self defense to chase and attack the shooter with force then tue shooter could also claim that he would be allowed to chase and attack others. It just doesn't make sense. If you are fearing for your life then you should seek safe escape, not chase the person so that you end up engaged and at risk for a longer time than you would have otherwise.

Experience with mass shootings show otherwise.

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Run, Hide, Fight

OMG you are not supposed to chase down an armed attacker if you are unarmed. Maybe you are very confident in your empty hand skills because of all of your Tae Bo experience? You are supposed to run the OTHER way duhhh! And this isn't a mass shooting, so it's not really relevant.

You are not supposed to fight, but you can choose to if you think he is going to shoot you or someone else. How did they know he wasn't going to go shoot someone else?

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Anonymous wrote:If the shooter had different-colored skin, the third victim would have been deemed a hero by the right for trying to disarm him with his own concealed Glock. The second victim would have been deemed a hero for trying to take him down with his skateboard.

Curious who the kid called after he killed the first person. And can you really KILL someone for grabbing you?! (We also don't know what happened before the video started)

And that was a plastic grocery bag with a light-ish object in it. It wasn't on fire and it certainly wasn't a Molotov cocktail.

I won’t speculate on Your other comments. The bag was on fire and look at how it flattened out and skidded when it hit the ground. That’s consistent with a liquid in the bag. Is your theory that somebody threw garbage at him while chasing him and then continued to chase him after the first shot?

Like I said above, people will see what they want to see (including me).

If only Kyle had been following the law...

Wonder what wil happen to his dad. A cop who knowingly committed a felony that directly led to multiple deaths.

If only the people shot had been following the law....

As for his dad, a lot of it will depend on whether Kyle is convicted or not. Think of it this way: if Kyle’s dad gave minor Kyle a gun and minor Kyle killed two home intruders in his home, nothing would happen to his dad. All of this is going to come down to whether Kyle was acting in self defense.

He illegally transported an illegal gun across state lines and fled the scene. Self-dfense doesn't even come into play because he committed multiple felonies just being there while armed.

Why would someone travel to another state’s protest armed unless you planned on killing someone? He was planning on killing protesters. He is a terrorist and should be charged as a terrorist.

The prosecutor will certainly argue that. The defense will say he is just a stupid kid who got in over his head.

The Prosecutor will not argue that. Or anything. The prosecutor announced today at 5 pm ET that unless there is pre-prosecution evidence at the beyond-reasonable-doubt level, there will be no cases brought. The prosecutor typically acts on the basis of probable cause plus interests-of-justice. The prosecutor has already decided to throw all of the cases.

There will be a lot of pressure on him to change his mind. Wouldn't be the first time a prosecutor was pressured into a prosecution. We'll see.

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Anonymous wrote:If the shooter had different-colored skin, the third victim would have been deemed a hero by the right for trying to disarm him with his own concealed Glock. The second victim would have been deemed a hero for trying to take him down with his skateboard.

Curious who the kid called after he killed the first person. And can you really KILL someone for grabbing you?! (We also don't know what happened before the video started)

And that was a plastic grocery bag with a light-ish object in it. It wasn't on fire and it certainly wasn't a Molotov cocktail.

I won’t speculate on Your other comments. The bag was on fire and look at how it flattened out and skidded when it hit the ground. That’s consistent with a liquid in the bag. Is your theory that somebody threw garbage at him while chasing him and then continued to chase him after the first shot?

Like I said above, people will see what they want to see (including me).

If only Kyle had been following the law...

Wonder what wil happen to his dad. A cop who knowingly committed a felony that directly led to multiple deaths.

If only the people shot had been following the law....

As for his dad, a lot of it will depend on whether Kyle is convicted or not. Think of it this way: if Kyle’s dad gave minor Kyle a gun and minor Kyle killed two home intruders in his home, nothing would happen to his dad. All of this is going to come down to whether Kyle was acting in self defense.

He illegally transported an illegal gun across state lines and fled the scene. Self-dfense doesn't even come into play because he committed multiple felonies just being there while armed.

Why would someone travel to another state’s protest armed unless you planned on killing someone? He was planning on killing protesters. He is a terrorist and should be charged as a terrorist.

The prosecutor will certainly argue that. The defense will say he is just a stupid kid who got in over his head.

The Prosecutor will not argue that. Or anything. The prosecutor announced today at 5 pm ET that unless there is pre-prosecution evidence at the beyond-reasonable-doubt level, there will be no cases brought. The prosecutor typically acts on the basis of probable cause plus interests-of-justice. The prosecutor has already decided to throw all of the cases.

Link?

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Great, so shooters can go off and do what they want in Wisconsin. Wheee!

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Anonymous wrote:"The people who were chasing him could have felt their life was in imminent danger. The dude was armed and loaded and was not a policeman. How did anyone know he wasn't going to start a mass shooting? Any aggression toward him was done in self-defense."

This.

Precedent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Shaw_Jr.

That is a really strange way of looking at it. The people pursuing Ritttenhouse put themselves in that situation by chasing him and assaulting him. If you aren't trained and identifiable as a police officer, you are taking on some major risk by attempting to disarm someone. They had to know this guy was armed with a rifle. What were they thinking?

You say that about Trayvon Martin and Ahmaud Arbery?