postal service warns it will not deliver mail-in ballots on time

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Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.

Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


And a Democrat moves the goal posts... again. First it was, GOP is going to slow delivery of mailed ballots so they arrive late and don't count. Now it's the GOP is going to slow the delivery of blank ballots so they don't arrive, and can't be post marked by the deadline.

Look, mail-in voting isn't going to happen this election cycle for a variety of practical, objective reasons. Accept it. Don't try to use the lack of it as some sort of conspiracy theory to justify not accepting if Trump wins again.

I don’t know what sources you use, but everything I read was talking about the fact that the GOP election sabotage might prevent ballots from even arriving. That’s not moving the goalposts.

And mail in voting IS HAPPENING for a variety of reasons, not the least of which that is the safest option and is the law in many, many states.

We see you. We see you trying to steal an election. Your idiot president** admitted as much.
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Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


Uterus. Ballot..it's all the same.


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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.

The “conservative” argument is basically that we aren’t entitled to safe or free and fair elections and we just better deal with it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.

Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


I'm sorry - WTH are you talking about? I don't give a rat's ass how you vote. But if you're going to continue to whine and moan about mail-in ballots, then either drop yours off in person or go vote in person. Stop your constant bit*ching.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.

Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


And a Democrat moves the goal posts... again. First it was, GOP is going to slow delivery of mailed ballots so they arrive late and don't count. Now it's the GOP is going to slow the delivery of blank ballots so they don't arrive, and can't be post marked by the deadline.

Look, mail-in voting isn't going to happen this election cycle for a variety of practical, objective reasons. Accept it. Don't try to use the lack of it as some sort of conspiracy theory to justify not accepting if Trump wins again.


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But they will absolutely do the bolded. Any excuse they can find, they'll use it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.


It's pretty clear: Democrats enthusiastically supported mass protests in the middle of a pandemic. Yet now they're claiming it's "not safe" to go vote in person? And you actually expect to be taken seriously.

Absentee ballots will work as they always have. Stop the outrage.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.


It's pretty clear: Democrats enthusiastically supported mass protests in the middle of a pandemic. Yet now they're claiming it's "not safe" to go vote in person? And you actually expect to be taken seriously.

Absentee ballots will work as they always have. Stop the outrage.


Don't forget that they would rather the USPS prioritize their mail in ballot over grandma's medicine so that they don't have to get off the couch.

Reminds me of this commercial

https://youtu.be/61c2vIhI8BM
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.


It's pretty clear: Democrats enthusiastically supported mass protests in the middle of a pandemic. Yet now they're claiming it's "not safe" to go vote in person? And you actually expect to be taken seriously.

Absentee ballots will work as they always have. Stop the outrage.


Don't forget that they would rather the USPS prioritize their mail in ballot over grandma's medicine so that they don't have to get off the couch.

Reminds me of this commercial

https://youtu.be/61c2vIhI8BM



That's spot-on! Never seen that one before.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


Except most of the States have already decided to do mail in ballots because 1) they view the cost benefit to he wort it safety wise and 2) Oregon and Utah have proven that it's feasible. Therefore the only thing you are arguing for is using the power of the federal government to sabatoge that choice. Keep in mind that the USPS "reforms" only started after the States made that decision.
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Meanwhile this past February the USPS filed a patent using blockchain and mail for voting...

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.

Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


No General election ballots are printed until about 60 days before the election. At this point Biden, Harris, Trump, and Pence have not officially been nominated by their parties and Republicans are still trying to get Kanye West on some state ballots. Once the National tickets are sent to the states, the states add the state and district races and send to the counties to add local races and print ballots for each precinct. It differs by state but official ballots won’t be available for absentee mail in voting until sometime in September.
Anonymous
How is the post office able to deliver billions of Christmas cards during the holiday season but suddenly can’t handle, what, 30 or 40 million mail ballots?
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Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.


You do realize that there is as least one Virginian who has requested a mail-in ballot, not received one, received delayed mail, and not stepped foot in a grocery store for months on end?

You do realize how many tradesmen are out of work right now?

Your argument is what exactly? Be specific.


It's pretty clear: Democrats enthusiastically supported mass protests in the middle of a pandemic. Yet now they're claiming it's "not safe" to go vote in person? And you actually expect to be taken seriously.

Absentee ballots will work as they always have. Stop the outrage.

From the party that claims we’re not allowed to say “Merry Christmas” and that nearly crucified Obama for the sin of the tan suit, you’re full of sht.

And head injury? Huffing paint? Lie passed out in a chlorine gas cloud? You guys are like a broken gddmn record with not understanding how covid is transmitted. Once more, hopefully the time to overcome your short term memory limitations: inside is worse than outside. Close is worse than distanced. Unmasked is worse than masked. Long periods together is worse than short periods. Now see if you can figure out what about standing in line for three hours inside might be bad (and revel in the fact that your party is so fcked up that they have broken elections to the point that lots of people have to wait in those lines to vote).
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Anonymous wrote:Reality is, nobody's talking about "destroying" the post office, except those engaging in hyperbole & histrionics. The USPS has been scaling back for years. Snail mail is going the way of the land line telephone. It's called progress. Now, some have decided we absolutely MUST conduct our voting by mail -- as if we cannot safely go to a polling place & vote. We go out, and with appropriate caution, go to grocery stores, pharmacies, attend political rallies & protests, go to home supply stores, liquor stores, gun shops, beauty salons & barber shops, physician & dentist offices, etc., etc. Those with special needs: absentee ballots have been available since the Civil War. But the screeching & screaming will continue, as if the nation's very existence depends on mail-in voting.


Are you actually trying to claim that postal service has not been impacted by these moves and that the timing is completely coincidental? Despite, Trump himself explicitly saying that he is trying to slow down the mail because he thinks mail in voting is bad for his re-election chances?

Are you really also saying that we should vote in person only? If so, why? It's one thing to say that in person voting can be done safely. It's quite another thing to say that we must vote in person regardless of safety. Unfortunately, that second point is what you are actually arguing. Sure, there are steps that can be taken to make in person voting as safe as going to the grocery store. Even that's not close to 100% safe but whatev. But what's happening is that some states want to minimize potential safety risks and the federal government is trying to sabotage that effort.


No, PP is saying that it's the height of stupidity to push for mail-in-voting 2.5 months out from a Presidential election. If Democrats wanted safe, secure mail-in voting, they should have taken it up as an issue back when they had the Presidency and Congress. They didn't. As such, you can't whine about it now. Well, you can whine, but the rest of us won't care.


PPP here, and yes - this is exactly what I'm saying. Also, if Democrats are so damn worried about the USPS not getting their ballots in on time, then why don't they send them in now? Why wait until the last minute? And if they're THAT scared, then just vote in person - the same way they go to the grocery store or hair salon right now. Or protests, for that matter. Such hypocrites.

Do *you* have your ballot now? It’s hard to complete a ballot that you haven’t got, and that’s part of the problem: the GOP has sabotaged the USPS to slow the ballots going both ways.

And if my state allows me to request my ballot and vote by mail, and it does, what business is it of yours how I vote? Why do you feel entitled to tell me that the state that I live in isn’t doing it right?


I'm sorry - WTH are you talking about? I don't give a rat's ass how you vote. But if you're going to continue to whine and moan about mail-in ballots, then either drop yours off in person or go vote in person. Stop your constant bit*ching.

I swear to god you Republicans are some of the least bright and most hateful people I’ve ever engaged with.

You DO, in fact, give a rat’s how I vote. You’ve been complaining about absentee voting (which is the same damn thing as mail in voting) for weeks since the traitor started complaining about it. My state has safe, legal absentee voting. So long as GOPpers aren’t sabotaging the USPS, it works great.

But if you didn’t cheat, you wouldn’t win.
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