Student attacked with taser in Oakton HS locker room

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Anonymous wrote:For the PPs talking about Quander and Cedar. Neither are alternative schools. They are public separate day schools for students with emotional disability and some on the autism spectrum.

The alternative schools in the county are Mt View in Centreville and Bryant in Alexandria. There are also alternative programs through interagency alternative schools. They are located at sites throughout the county. Most likely these kids will he assigned to one of these places for a semester to a year. Then they will be allowed to return to a regular school (depending on behavior), but not Oakton because there’s an victim still attending there.


Thank god! I hope this is true! My kids will know if these perps are back at oakton! I feel so sad for the victim. Jesus!


Do your kids know if they are there now? My DS says the main perpetrator is “suspended indefinitely” during the investigation but is unsure if the others are still at school. Like PP, my kid knows (but is not friends with) 2 of the kids involved; he knows one other kid just by name. Also says bullying of the victim has been ongoing.


Physical bullying?

Also, the kids that are are thrown out can choose another school, like some of the new schools that have appeared in the area in recent years. People should know.


Kid's brought up the hearing's office, removed, and then allowed to return to a base school do not get to choose which school they return to. It's an administrative decision based mostly on transportation.


Nope. I have seen kids get thrown out of an FCPS school and choose one of the small new schools that are out there (not necessarily FCPS). Don't be so closed minded, and you will get your answer. They stay at that (small, nw) school because it "looks better" on the transcript.
Anonymous
Summary: The parents have to go to the police (probably won't be that effective, if at all), lawyer up (this is what will bring consequences, financial and otherwise), and bring bad press (which they wisely did), because FCPS is not going to do much, if anything.
Anonymous
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https://oaktonhs.fcps.edu/index.php/staff-directory?keywords=&field_last_name_from=&field_last_name_to=&items_per_page=10&page=12


If you are writing to the Principal, I recommend copying the Region 1 Asst Supt Tyson, Superintendent Braband, and School Board Rep Karl Frisch.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What I have seen happen in FCPS is that admin treats the bully as a victim, and blames the victim in any way possible. They’ll say “oh, if it was really a problem, he would have told someone or gotten help”. Bullying has a paralyzing effect such that victims usually do not speak up. That’s why bystanders are so important. Recognize subtle signs and look out for each other. Do not blame victims! Do not assume they are ok, just because they aren’t crying/screaming for help. The long lasting psychological effects of extreme bullying are similar to being in a war-torn country.


+1

FCPS close ranks and simply don't want to deal with the real issue. If someone is a known drug dealer, for example, it is easy to get rid of that student or small group of students, because they are a known problem doing something blatantly illegal, repeatedly. If someone is a bully, they are sneaky by nature. FCPS has cameras, and are extremely careful what they show the victim's families. FCPS has a lawyer behind this, because FCPS has years of experience, and they need to protect their "brand". It's not such a great school system, but it is extremely large. People from outside the area are sometimes impressed with that.


They do not get rid of drug dealers. Plenty have been caught and remain at school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pages 49-57 of the student rights and responsibilities categorizes incidents and the potential discipline that may be applied through FCPS.

Virginia law:
§ 18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited; penalty.
A. If any person knowingly possesses any (i) stun weapon as defined in this section;....is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-38. "Mob" defined.
Any collection of people, assembled for the purpose and with the intention of committing an assault or a battery upon any person or an act of violence as defined in § 19.2-297.1, without authority of law, shall be deemed a "mob."

§ 18.2-42. Assault or battery by mob.
Any and every person composing a mob which shall commit a simple assault or battery shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-57. Assault and battery; penalty.
A. Any person who commits a simple assault or assault and battery is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor,


What is the punishment for a Class 1 misdemeanor in the FCPS Student Rights and Responsibilities?
Anonymous
(a) For Class 1 misdemeanors, confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.
Anonymous

Level 3 Responses include more intensive interventions. Dependent upon the severity, repeated nature of the behavior and/or safety concerns, Level 3 responses may include the student’s short-term removal from school.

Sanctions:
• Temporary removal from school-sponsored events and activities for 7-14 calendar days
• In-school suspension (up to five school days) with behavioral instruction and academic support
• Short-term out-of-school suspension (up to two school days) with restorative circle or conference upon return
• Referral to law enforcement where required


Level 4 Responses include targeted individualized interventions and customarily result in school-based disciplinary action. However, the principal may make a referral to the Division Superintendent for these violations. A referral to the Division Superintendent may result in a number of different responses based on circumstances and rarely results in an expulsion.

Assault is categorized as level 4

Sanctions:
• Short-term removal from school activities for 14-21 calendar days
• Short-term out-of-school suspension (up to three school days for grade K-3 students, unless specified misconduct has occurred; up to five school days for grade 4-12 students, unless accompanied by referral to the Division Superintendent, in which case the principal may suspend for up to ten school days) with restorative circle or conference upon return
• Referral to the Division Superintendent
• Referral to law enforcement as required

Level 5 responses target behaviors for which the code of Virginia or School Board policy mandate a referral to the Division Superintendent. Interventions are intended to support the student during any related temporary removal from school, and to implement required protections for students with disabilities. A referral to the Division Superintendent may result in a number of different responses based on circumstances and rarely results in an expulsion.

Using any weapon to injure is categorized as level 5

Required School-based Administrative Responses to Level 5 Behaviors:
• Referral to Division Superintendent
• Threat assessment when indicated by the behavior
• Referral to law enforcement as required


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
https://oaktonhs.fcps.edu/index.php/staff-directory?keywords=&field_last_name_from=&field_last_name_to=&items_per_page=10&page=12


If you are writing to the Principal, I recommend copying the Region 1 Asst Supt Tyson, Superintendent Braband, and School Board Rep Karl Frisch.



Really???

Tyson is part of the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
https://oaktonhs.fcps.edu/index.php/staff-directory?keywords=&field_last_name_from=&field_last_name_to=&items_per_page=10&page=12


If you are writing to the Principal, I recommend copying the Region 1 Asst Supt Tyson, Superintendent Braband, and School Board Rep Karl Frisch.



Really???

Tyson is part of the problem.


Then that's all the more reason to send Tyson a copy of the letter. Put Tyson on notice that the bosses and the board are being contacted.
(FYI, I'm not the PP to whom you were replying.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pages 49-57 of the student rights and responsibilities categorizes incidents and the potential discipline that may be applied through FCPS.

Virginia law:
§ 18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited; penalty.
A. If any person knowingly possesses any (i) stun weapon as defined in this section;....is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-38. "Mob" defined.
Any collection of people, assembled for the purpose and with the intention of committing an assault or a battery upon any person or an act of violence as defined in § 19.2-297.1, without authority of law, shall be deemed a "mob."

§ 18.2-42. Assault or battery by mob.
Any and every person composing a mob which shall commit a simple assault or battery shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-57. Assault and battery; penalty.
A. Any person who commits a simple assault or assault and battery is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor,


What is the punishment for a Class 1 misdemeanor in the FCPS Student Rights and Responsibilities?


Forget FCPS, the state needs to get involved. I see 4 misdemeanors. Toss these losers into our state-funded school for thugs aka Fairfax juvenile detention center. Yeah, let’s see how they hold up. They’ll be stunned and held down - karma is a real beatch.
Anonymous
Dear Oakton Community,

As a follow-up to my message to you on Wednesday afternoon, I wanted to bring you up-to-date regarding the school’s response to the troubling assault that occurred on school grounds last week.

At this point all students, who we know to be involved, have been spoken with and assigned the appropriate disciplinary consequences as determined by the FCPS Student Rights and Responsibilities (SR &R). Any student with additional information regarding this incident is encouraged to come talk to the administration. Should any new information come to light, we will continue to investigate. I know that there are still many questions and rumors circulating around this instance, however, student privacy laws prevent me from disclosing any specifics. We certainly understand the anxiety among students, staff and families caused by this serious incident.

My first priority, always, is to provide the students, staff and community with a safe and secure environment. I am in constant contact with the Fairfax County Police Department (FCPD) who are continuing their investigation and the school is assisting the police in whatever ways we can. We encourage discussions at home to address the appropriate ways students can address their feelings and concerns while respecting that the school and police are handling the matter with all involved. Counselors and administrators are available to talk with any students that have concerns or may be impacted by this incident.

In addition, we have simultaneously begun the following action steps:

Review of all safety protocols and procedures at the school level to ensure student safety in all venues.
Clarifying for students the various ways they can report a concern, of any kind, to school staff.
Adding additional anonymous means to report concerns to school leadership.
Engaging students in conversation around bullying and appropriate responses if they are aware of, or a witness of such behavior.
The FCPS Office of Safety and Security is a second available resource to report student or parent concerns. I have included the link to the website below for you to have as a resource.

Thank you for your support and cooperation.



Sincerely,

Jamie S. Lane, Principal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, va law is clear. Stun guns are forbidden on school grounds, it’s a misdemeanor offense to bring one to school. I imagine it’s felony assault to actually use one on a person. If not, I foresee lots of stun gunning not just in FCPS but in the state. Why not?! I can be a bully, stun another, then my friends can hold him or her down, stun them again and none of us will get arrested?! Wonderful!

No. These losers will be arrested. If not, it’s a precedent for others and no arrests could be made.

FCPS and FCPD are being watched on this one by those in the legal profession.


Possibly a test for the new progressive prosecutor if and when it potentially comes to that following an investigation?


Are you nuts? A juvie case won’t be that visible. And he sure as hell isn’t going to charge some HS freshmen as adults.


Huh?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dear Oakton Community,

As a follow-up to my message to you on Wednesday afternoon, I wanted to bring you up-to-date regarding the school’s response to the troubling assault that occurred on school grounds last week.

At this point all students, who we know to be involved, have been spoken with and assigned the appropriate disciplinary consequences as determined by the FCPS Student Rights and Responsibilities (SR &R). Any student with additional information regarding this incident is encouraged to come talk to the administration. Should any new information come to light, we will continue to investigate. I know that there are still many questions and rumors circulating around this instance, however, student privacy laws prevent me from disclosing any specifics. We certainly understand the anxiety among students, staff and families caused by this serious incident.

My first priority, always, is to provide the students, staff and community with a safe and secure environment. I am in constant contact with the Fairfax County Police Department (FCPD) who are continuing their investigation and the school is assisting the police in whatever ways we can. We encourage discussions at home to address the appropriate ways students can address their feelings and concerns while respecting that the school and police are handling the matter with all involved. Counselors and administrators are available to talk with any students that have concerns or may be impacted by this incident.

In addition, we have simultaneously begun the following action steps:

Review of all safety protocols and procedures at the school level to ensure student safety in all venues.
Clarifying for students the various ways they can report a concern, of any kind, to school staff.
Adding additional anonymous means to report concerns to school leadership.
Engaging students in conversation around bullying and appropriate responses if they are aware of, or a witness of such behavior.
The FCPS Office of Safety and Security is a second available resource to report student or parent concerns. I have included the link to the website below for you to have as a resource.

Thank you for your support and cooperation.



Sincerely,

Jamie S. Lane, Principal


“Appropriate disciplinary consequences” better not be a 3-day suspension or a similar bullsh$t punishment. Does anyone know if these kids are being removed from OHS and sent elsewhere? So tired of FCPS protecting the aggressors instead of victims....
Anonymous
I don’t see anything in the SR&R that suggests the bullies will get more than a 10-day suspension from their current school.
Anonymous
^ bringing a weapon to school is grounds for expulsion.
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