APS: Think the "no move" campaign is going to work?

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Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[


Can someone please share this proposal?

Yes, please?

I think this is it?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Oh that is the funniest thing I've seen all day. LOL!!!

Brought to you by the same people who keep insisting that that APS can just build a school in Rosslyn or turn the Key site into a 1400 student mega neighborhood/option hybrid (after their kids are gone, naturally). The grasp on reality is so thin they aren't even worth engaging at this point.

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Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?[


Can someone please share this proposal?

Yes, please?

I think this is it?

https://imgur.com/a/NG3h5b7

Oh that is the funniest thing I've seen all day. LOL!!!

Brought to you by the same people who keep insisting that that APS can just build a school in Rosslyn or turn the Key site into a 1400 student mega neighborhood/option hybrid (after their kids are gone, naturally). The grasp on reality is so thin they aren't even worth engaging at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy with the glasses is one tough interrogator. I feel sorry for the people who have to face him.

No, he’s an idiot. Anyone who understands a boundary process knows you can’t say for sure how many kids will move until the boundaries are done. He’s posturing and being difficult because that’s what he does. But he never actually does anything more than that.

He passed on very specific questions that were clearly posed to him by members of the public.

yeah- he was trying to repeat the Key talking point, which only makes sense to those who are within the Key boundary- that somehow they will still need more seats in the Rosslyn neighborhood so thus the move is pointless. First part true- second part- uh no- it will give them 600 seats- that's a good start.

I continue to be baffled by this argument. “We can’t fix everything completely right now, so let’s make things even worse instead.” Huh?

Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?

Saw at ASFS they are having music classes outside due to lack of space - something needs to be changed soon. https://twitter.com/ASFSOnline

Not sure what you want us to do

That and is there a reason they aren’t using the stage? Or the stairwell? Seriously I think that sometimes the administration at that school really will do anything to make their point.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy with the glasses is one tough interrogator. I feel sorry for the people who have to face him.

No, he’s an idiot. Anyone who understands a boundary process knows you can’t say for sure how many kids will move until the boundaries are done. He’s posturing and being difficult because that’s what he does. But he never actually does anything more than that.

He passed on very specific questions that were clearly posed to him by members of the public.

yeah- he was trying to repeat the Key talking point, which only makes sense to those who are within the Key boundary- that somehow they will still need more seats in the Rosslyn neighborhood so thus the move is pointless. First part true- second part- uh no- it will give them 600 seats- that's a good start.

I continue to be baffled by this argument. “We can’t fix everything completely right now, so let’s make things even worse instead.” Huh?

Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?

Saw at ASFS they are having music classes outside due to lack of space - something needs to be changed soon. https://twitter.com/ASFSOnline

Not sure what you want us to do

That and is there a reason they aren’t using the stage? Or the stairwell? Seriously I think that sometimes the administration at that school really will do anything to make their point.

Stage is in cafeteria. Lunch is a 4 hr affair b/c of capacity.

Stairwell?? Pretty sure that’s a huge fire hazard.

They do have two lower storage rooms that could be dug out — SB blocked that but maybe should be revisited.

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Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???

Yes can someone answer this?

Board scheduled to vote Feb 6
Public hearing jan 30

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Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???

Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.

One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.

Yes - she was clearly very emotional reliving the time she lived in the same state of uncertainty for "ten years" not knowing whether Montessori would get its own building or remain a program within another school. Clearly the TEN years of uncertainty didn't cause her to pull her kids back to the neighborhood school.

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Anonymous wrote:When is all this going to be decided???

Either on time or, knowing Arlington, punted for a couple more years.

One of the SB members (was it Monique?) seemed to be nearly in tears when she said that this decision needs to be made ASAP. I thought she was going to propose that they vote on it then and there.

NVD and TT are sure votes. If they've got MO, it's definitely going to happen. There will not be any punting.

I wouldn't be so sure. TT needs to learn why the "better proposal out there that affects fewer students" isn't what its proposers purport it to be first.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy with the glasses is one tough interrogator. I feel sorry for the people who have to face him.

No, he’s an idiot. Anyone who understands a boundary process knows you can’t say for sure how many kids will move until the boundaries are done. He’s posturing and being difficult because that’s what he does. But he never actually does anything more than that.

He passed on very specific questions that were clearly posed to him by members of the public.

yeah- he was trying to repeat the Key talking point, which only makes sense to those who are within the Key boundary- that somehow they will still need more seats in the Rosslyn neighborhood so thus the move is pointless. First part true- second part- uh no- it will give them 600 seats- that's a good start.

I continue to be baffled by this argument. “We can’t fix everything completely right now, so let’s make things even worse instead.” Huh?

Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?

Saw at ASFS they are having music classes outside due to lack of space - something needs to be changed soon. https://twitter.com/ASFSOnline

Not sure what you want us to do

That and is there a reason they aren’t using the stage? Or the stairwell? Seriously I think that sometimes the administration at that school really will do anything to make their point.

BINGO!!!!! DING DING DING!!!!!

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No way this is a done deal.

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Anonymous wrote:No way this is a done deal.

And you say that based on what?

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Anonymous wrote:No way this is a done deal.

And you say that based on what?

Wishful thinking

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Anonymous wrote:The guy with the glasses is one tough interrogator. I feel sorry for the people who have to face him.

No, he’s an idiot. Anyone who understands a boundary process knows you can’t say for sure how many kids will move until the boundaries are done. He’s posturing and being difficult because that’s what he does. But he never actually does anything more than that.

He passed on very specific questions that were clearly posed to him by members of the public.

yeah- he was trying to repeat the Key talking point, which only makes sense to those who are within the Key boundary- that somehow they will still need more seats in the Rosslyn neighborhood so thus the move is pointless. First part true- second part- uh no- it will give them 600 seats- that's a good start.

I continue to be baffled by this argument. “We can’t fix everything completely right now, so let’s make things even worse instead.” Huh?

Can anyone from Key explain how their magical alternative proposal creates more seats in the R-B corridor than adding a whole school worth of neighborhood seats? I don’t understand where they think these seats are coming from. Are they really just pretending like pushing Long Branch kids west and filling those with kids from Courthouse is creating more seats than moving immersion and filling Long Branch AND Key with neighborhood seats?

Saw at ASFS they are having music classes outside due to lack of space - something needs to be changed soon. https://twitter.com/ASFSOnline

Not sure what you want us to do

That and is there a reason they aren’t using the stage? Or the stairwell? Seriously I think that sometimes the administration at that school really will do anything to make their point.

Stage is in cafeteria. Lunch is a 4 hr affair b/c of capacity.

Stairwell?? Pretty sure that’s a huge fire hazard.

They do have two lower storage rooms that could be dug out — SB blocked that but maybe should be revisited.

I just checked my kids sectional schedule, they were supposed to be in the computer lab. No reason to be outside. If the lab was taken, why not just cancel that sectional that week?
There are music classes on the stage throughout the day. Lunch is only from 11-12:30.
This is like how they started having health classes in the front hallway (instead of the classroom those kids spend the rest of their day in). PE classes in hallways instead of outside. She’s trying to make a point, I get it. That doesn’t make it in the best interests of the kids that go there.
They have had specials in the stairwell for years, a lot of other schools over capacity do that too.
I don’t know your agenda, but it’s obvious you’re not a parent at asfs.

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Anonymous wrote:No way this is a done deal.

No, but it will be on Feb 6.

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Anonymous wrote:No way this is a done deal.

No, but it will be on Feb 6.

Remember when the superintendent declared the swap a done deal? I think they want the change, but I won’t be shocked if it falls through. I’m ready to move on to the next phase of the boundary process, which will probably be a bigger hotter mess than this.

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Anonymous wrote:We're at ATS and parking is mostly ok. For big evening events, you have to park on George Mason or at the Safeway. It's 0.75 miles or so away from the Ballston metro, which isn't as close to metro as the current Key, but also isn't tragic. 0.75 miles from metro is better than nearly any other school in the county (or surrounding counties, for that matter.)

ATS can hold at least 4 classes per grade plus VPI. It currently has about that now. Given that only 35 native spanish speakers applied for Key's kindergarten last year, you could do 4 classes per grade and accommodate at least 80 kids per grade, or even 96 per grade (as ATS currently has in most grades) accounting for attrition as kids leave in the later grades (and can't transfer in due to the spanish language requirements.) So I think it could be a good fit once some of the bigger grades transition out.

We're a current ATS family and I worry that McKinley will be a more difficult location for the lower-income families to access, and would be a tougher sell for the South Arlington families in general. But I support the idea of a bigger ATS because, given the waitlist situation, clearly the demand is there for more seats.

won’t you get towed if you park in the Safeway lot? I’m assuming it’s private property.

The school coordinates with Safeway for special events. They just ask that we park on the ATS side of the lot (opposite from the store itself).

It's also the $hitty safeway, so no cars in the lot usually.