76/95 VA counties declare 2A sanctuaries

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nations Gun Show coming up in Chantilly at the Dulles Expo Center December 27, 28, 29. I expect to see all of you gun buyers and anti gun protestors there!

$5 off entry if you mention DCUM


-Annette of Showmasters Inc.



Best fudge and pickles as someone else had already mentioned.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There have to be paid trolls in this thread. To discredit the gun control people.

I’m very pro gun control but this is insane.


Well they aren't doing a good job. They did however show us their true colors, with the quick reaction to threats of violence. Seriously murdered by SWAT teams, prison rape, these sickos have their fantasies.


Haha. Project much?



Uh No. Disgusted much.


Yes. I am very much disgusted by you.


Yes you've made that clear, that not only do you hate the fringe of crazy gun owners, you hate the average ones too, heck you hate anyone who won't fall 100% into line with your extreme views. And to top it off, disagreement wasn't enough for you, neither was name calling. You had to say some truly sick shit, but I guess thats what gets you off these days.
Anonymous
Holy Mother of God. This forum really has some sick people. I've never seen a forum with the volume of hatred and vitriol like this one.

Why in hell can't ANY OF YOU conduct a rational discussion of the issues at hand? You and I may disagree, but we both have the right to voice our opinions. I learned that in elementary school.

It seems that many of you here either never heard of it, or refuse to accept the premise that good people can occasionally have bad ideas. And whatever their ideas, they have the right to express them.

Whether we agree or not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Holy Mother of God. This forum really has some sick people. I've never seen a forum with the volume of hatred and vitriol like this one.

Why in hell can't ANY OF YOU conduct a rational discussion of the issues at hand? You and I may disagree, but we both have the right to voice our opinions. I learned that in elementary school.

It seems that many of you here either never heard of it, or refuse to accept the premise that good people can occasionally have bad ideas. And whatever their ideas, they have the right to express them.

Whether we agree or not.


You are a poopy head!
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You think I’M a danger to society?!? What kind of society do you want??? Because it’s clearly not one that a civilized person would recognize. You want anarchy. I want an orderly civilization where no one has the ability to murder someone else with a gun over the most petty disputes. I think the only the police and army should have guns, and no one else. And you call me at threat? That’s rich. You’re a loon.


So you think that only the police and the army should have guns?

Interesting.

They made a movie about a situation just like that.

It's called "Schindler's List".


This notion is outdated. You are not keeping the government in check. They have hundreds of times the firepower you and your friends do. -NP


It's largely irrelevant how outgunned citizens are. When protestors chain themselves to trees do they worry about the huge number of bolt cutters in the local hardware store?
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Anonymous wrote:It is not incredibly hard in a large portion of industrialized countries for a private citizen to own guns.

Their gun deaths are close to zero.

Hmmm


Go live there. Leave already.


So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column
conductor53
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So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.
Anonymous
conductor53 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.


Seriously, I try to explain this and they just don't get it. They want to believe that anyone who owns a gun is a mentally unstable whacko. And the conversation and any hope of meaningful dialogue is gone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Holy Mother of God. This forum really has some sick people. I've never seen a forum with the volume of hatred and vitriol like this one.

Why in hell can't ANY OF YOU conduct a rational discussion of the issues at hand? You and I may disagree, but we both have the right to voice our opinions. I learned that in elementary school.

It seems that many of you here either never heard of it, or refuse to accept the premise that good people can occasionally have bad ideas. And whatever their ideas, they have the right to express them.

Whether we agree or not.


There was a few pages of decent back and fourth at the beginning, and then it turned nasty pretty fast.
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conductor53 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.


Seriously, I try to explain this and they just don't get it. They want to believe that anyone who owns a gun is a mentally unstable whacko. And the conversation and any hope of meaningful dialogue is gone.


I got told to leave this country for suggesting we might have a problem. I was not going after gun owners. Just suggesting that the other industrialized nations might be onto something with much stricter regulation of gun ownership. They don’t see the level of violence we do - in fact, they see very few gun deaths.

How about you propose ways to decrease our gun violence problem? Because if you do not, yes, I will put you into the column that doesn’t mind living in a country where first graders are blown to bits by psychotics with weapons of the war.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There have to be paid trolls in this thread. To discredit the gun control people.

I’m very pro gun control but this is insane.


Well they aren't doing a good job. They did however show us their true colors, with the quick reaction to threats of violence. Seriously murdered by SWAT teams, prison rape, these sickos have their fantasies.


Haha. Project much?



Uh No. Disgusted much.


Yes. I am very much disgusted by you.


Yes you've made that clear, that not only do you hate the fringe of crazy gun owners, you hate the average ones too, heck you hate anyone who won't fall 100% into line with your extreme views. And to top it off, disagreement wasn't enough for you, neither was name calling. You had to say some truly sick shit, but I guess thats what gets you off these days.


You are confusing posters. I didn’t call you names of say “sick shit”.

Or perhaps you are just projecting again.

Anonymous
conductor53 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.


Do you support the common-sense legislation supported by the Brady campaign?
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
conductor53 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.


Do you support the common-sense legislation supported by the Brady campaign?
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation



DP. Expanded background checks are fine but there must be mandatory upper limit. You can't make it a voluntary request to request that the FBI do their job. The FBI could simply "lose" a request and take forever. If three days aren't enough, make it enogh. Spend the money instead of increasing the backlog.

Extreme risk is a dead end. It makes the act of purchasing a gun is a reason to consider the person an extreme risk and therefore allow seizure. There is no limit on the "temporary" order. It's temporary until you petition or the court decides to cancel it. That's not what temporary means.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
conductor53 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So, you’re totally fine with young children being blown apart in their classrooms, huh? Or hundreds of people being shot from above at a concert? Or, you know, just going shopping at the local Walmart?

I want a better country than this. You should to.

Or I will just put you in the pro-dead 1st graders column


Ah, come on, guy! Just because someone enjoys shooting guns DOES NOT mean that he or she wants to see people killed. I've been shooting guns since I was 8 years old (68 years ago). I've never shot anyone, nor have I ever wanted to. Nor have I ever pointed a gun at anyone. I don't shoot animals, either (none of them has ever shot at me).
I like to shoot guns. That does not make me a murderer.


Seriously, I try to explain this and they just don't get it. They want to believe that anyone who owns a gun is a mentally unstable whacko. And the conversation and any hope of meaningful dialogue is gone.


Who told you to leave the country? I think I know the answer but I just need conformation.

I got told to leave this country for suggesting we might have a problem. I was not going after gun owners. Just suggesting that the other industrialized nations might be onto something with much stricter regulation of gun ownership. They don’t see the level of violence we do - in fact, they see very few gun deaths.

How about you propose ways to decrease our gun violence problem? Because if you do not, yes, I will put you into the column that doesn’t mind living in a country where first graders are blown to bits by psychotics with weapons of the war.
Anonymous
WOW is this one hostile thread. Maybe it would be helpful to read the actual legal opinion, which is short and very straightforward. The actual question that the AG addressed was about plain local government authority VS state government authority. Policy disputes weren't even mentioned, and the official opinion looked at the actual "gun sanctuary" language itself. The language in the bulk of these local "gun sanctuary" laws doesn't say anything except "We the people of Buccamuc County hereby declare that guns are terrific" or something like that. The laws typically do NOT actually state what anybody has a right to do, nor do they say what the local county supervisors is NOT allowed to legislate. And there's no question - Dillon Rule or not - a local government CANNOT legislate contrary to state law, period.

This is not hard to understand.

Here is the actual opinion: https://www.oag.state.va.us/files/Opinions/2019/19-059-Jones-issued.pdf
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