Next up for American Crime Story: “Impeachment” produces by Monica Lewinsky

[Anonymous]

Thoughts on Edie Falco as Hillary - Especially in Ep 8.

I caught her Jersey accent in an earlier ep and compared to how much he’s had to learn that horrid Arkansas accent, I thought it was a bad look.
She definitely looks the part, but I just find Edie hard in a way I don’t find Hillary.
She (Hillary) can definitely be shrewd & calculating, but Edie’s mannerisms are leaning much more Mrs. Soprano then Hillary to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people on this thread are so hard on Beanie. She was absolutely terrific in the episode last night.

It's not that she isn't a good actress. It's just that Monica was/is SO MUCH PRETTIER.

I agree with this. Monica wasn't really, really overweight, and had an elegance about her that Beanie can't quite replicate. I think it would be better if that actress had some of Monica's wow factor.

+1
Beanie is short and stout - there, I said it. Monica was not - she was voluptuous and rounded, but not fat. It's very distracting seeing Beanie clump around.

This. While I think beanie is doing a fine job, she just isn’t the same body type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone still watching this? This week's episode was the big Hillary episode, where Bill finally tells her that he had the affair and he testifies before the Grand Jury and the Clintons (with Chelsea) go on the worst vacation every to Martha's Vinyard to "celebrate" Bill's birthday.

We watched it last night and I can't stop thinking about it. It made me really angry, surprisingly so since this is all old news at this point. And through most of this series so far, I've been mostly focused on Monica (as the series intends) and how she was used and manipulated by so many powerful people for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with her as a person. But this episode's focus on Hillary just brought home for me how absolutely enraging Bill's behavior was, and the degree to which he screwed over all the women in his life (his wife, Monica, his daughter, the many women in his cabinet and administration, feminist allies, etc.) by doing this stuff, lying about it, and then needing ALL of their help to get out of it. And I've thought for a while now that these women shouldn't have helped him. I think he should have resigned. He was and is a sexual predator.

Anyway, midway through the episode my DH made some comment about "This is so bad but it just reminds me of Trump and how much worse he was." And listen, I hate Donald Trump with the fire of a thousand suns, but even this comment pissed me off. Bill Clinton was a gross asshole and you can't just compare gross assholes to Donald Trump as a get out of jail free card because everyone is going to look okay when lined up against Trump. It's like using Hitler as your baseline for a bad leader -- lots of room to be terrible without being Hitler, let's leave him out of it.

/rant over

I like your rant. In the previous weeks, I was just thinking about Betty Curry and her helping Bill with his affairs. It's a tough spot to be in, you (Betty) have this huge job, and especially back then, one would feel "well, it's none of my business" but by not making even an informal protest, you are enabling it all. But if you protest, he will probably fire/reassign you, and get someone else. So the entourage stays in place. ugh

[Anonymous]

I like the PP rant too. I looked up this thread to see if anyone else was having these same thoughts. I was too young to understand this scandal and I am stunned and enraged at all of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And she was selfish and self-centered and didn’t care about Hillary or Chelsea, only about getting a thrill or validation that she was desirable at all costs. Her making this movie is the same as all the 90 day fiancé fame whores, flowers and any low-life who tries to make money off of their infamy or by any means possible.

What sets her apart from the rest of the scandal seeking dregs, is, nothing.

Yes her family must be real proud. I didn't know she had an affair with a married guy before that. She's worse than I thought.

I'm surprised no one's brought this up yet, but she went into why she did what she did in the episode where she and Linda had a sleepover and Linda discovered the blue dress. Monica was either assaulted or molested by a camp counselor when she was ~14. It was a long scene, and she or Linda made the implicit connection with that incident and what happened with her teacher and then Clinton,.

[Anonymous]

so another episode is in the can. It's interesting, since I was an adult while this was going on, to see all that was happening out of the public eye at the time.

The guy who plays Clinton really has him down-pat.

Edie Falco doesn't feel like Hillary. She's got way too long, fakey eyelashes. And her mouth is really weird these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone still watching this? This week's episode was the big Hillary episode, where Bill finally tells her that he had the affair and he testifies before the Grand Jury and the Clintons (with Chelsea) go on the worst vacation every to Martha's Vinyard to "celebrate" Bill's birthday.

We watched it last night and I can't stop thinking about it. It made me really angry, surprisingly so since this is all old news at this point. And through most of this series so far, I've been mostly focused on Monica (as the series intends) and how she was used and manipulated by so many powerful people for reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with her as a person. But this episode's focus on Hillary just brought home for me how absolutely enraging Bill's behavior was, and the degree to which he screwed over all the women in his life (his wife, Monica, his daughter, the many women in his cabinet and administration, feminist allies, etc.) by doing this stuff, lying about it, and then needing ALL of their help to get out of it. And I've thought for a while now that these women shouldn't have helped him. I think he should have resigned. He was and is a sexual predator.

Anyway, midway through the episode my DH made some comment about "This is so bad but it just reminds me of Trump and how much worse he was." And listen, I hate Donald Trump with the fire of a thousand suns, but even this comment pissed me off. Bill Clinton was a gross asshole and you can't just compare gross assholes to Donald Trump as a get out of jail free card because everyone is going to look okay when lined up against Trump. It's like using Hitler as your baseline for a bad leader -- lots of room to be terrible without being Hitler, let's leave him out of it.

/rant over

I like your rant. In the previous weeks, I was just thinking about Betty Curry and her helping Bill with his affairs. It's a tough spot to be in, you (Betty) have this huge job, and especially back then, one would feel "well, it's none of my business" but by not making even an informal protest, you are enabling it all. But if you protest, he will probably fire/reassign you, and get someone else. So the entourage stays in place. ugh

I feel like we need a watch party for this show. I was finishing college when this happened and my viewpoint of it in real time was so different. I am now shocked at how nasty everything around this was towards the women involved and we all acted like it was a huge joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so another episode is in the can. It's interesting, since I was an adult while this was going on, to see all that was happening out of the public eye at the time.

The guy who plays Clinton really has him down-pat.

Edie Falco doesn't feel like Hillary. She's got way too long, fakey eyelashes. And her mouth is really weird these days.

She is awful. Taking me out of the moment entirely. That's Carmela Soprano.

[Anonymous]

Just finished this today. I thought it was really good. I loved that they gave everyone a fair portrayal. Even Linda Trip. It's so unusual in today's hyper-politicized climate that it really didn't feel like it had an agenda in either direction. I found that refreshing. And enlightening.

I was glued to it when it was happening as I had just graduated from law school and found the legal ins and outs fascinating. Still, I had never heard the whole Juanita B story and I never knew why Monica was forced to go into the grisly details. Also had no idea Brett Cavanaugh was such a key figure in it.

It surprised me how much I enjoyed Ann Coulter. Her reaction to the Star Report was hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on Edie Falco as Hillary - Especially in Ep 8.

I caught her Jersey accent in an earlier ep and compared to how much he’s had to learn that horrid Arkansas accent, I thought it was a bad look.
She definitely looks the part, but I just find Edie hard in a way I don’t find Hillary.
She (Hillary) can definitely be shrewd & calculating, but Edie’s mannerisms are leaning much more Mrs. Soprano then Hillary to me.

Terrible casting choice

[Anonymous]

My favorites were Clive Owen playing Bill Clinton
Sarah Paulson doing Linda Tripp
The lady playing Ann Coulter

[Anonymous]

Paula Jones actress was pretty accurate

[Anonymous]

Monica is reassigned to the Pentagon presumably because someone found out about or suspected the affair, or because Bill asked for her to be reassigned. Did the show get into the specifics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Monica is reassigned to the Pentagon presumably because someone found out about or suspected the affair, or because Bill asked for her to be reassigned. Did the show get into the specifics?

Is this a real question? Yes, it was a 6 part series that’s very specific

[Anonymous]

This show makes me want to kick Clinton in the ball sac. Every single woman involved was treated shabbily and he walks away practically unscathed.