Is a good atheist better then a bad christian?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you mean is a bad atheist better than a good christian? answer is YES!

Hell yes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neither can be saved in their current state. One is not better than the other.
In Christ
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SSPX. I don't know you but from your comments I would say you are way less forgiving then God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neither can be saved in their current state. One is not better than the other.
In Christ
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Says who?
In Likeflynn
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Christ Himself

“He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” John 3:36( this excludes Atheists good or bad)

and further

““Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” Mathew 7:21( this excludes bad Christians)
In Christ
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This is what my book says:

""It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends" - Dumbledore 3:17

""Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open"" - Dumbledore 4:21

Follow my book. It is the truth.

However are you pro or against and what exactly? I can't quite tell. Before the Team SSPX agrees to disagree in the ways to God,
he would need to agree on the "aim" and I guess this is half of the problem and reason why you can not level with Team SSPX because
they are like.. no.. no.. no.. whatever comes from the mouth of a "heretic" is as bad as heretic himself. Stonewall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would a true atheist like to go to heaven if it existed or would he like to decline eternal life just to keep his integrity?

You misunderstand atheists completely.

Any atheist would immediately change their position once shown evidence of a god. That is what "atheist integrity" is, if there is such a thing. So that should answer your question.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

[Anonymous]

If a bad Christian can bring one person to Christ and save that person’s soul, they are better than a good atheist. The person the Christian brought to Christ is saved and will live eternally with God. The atheist can do a million good deeds that will fade away and die and crumble. Only God is eternal.

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

Of course you don’t get it. You aren’t a believer. None of it makes sense to you and it never will. You’ll never find wisdom or peace or answers or comfort from religion, because you don’t believe. It’s not a mystery. Those of us that do believe do find those things. It’s understandable you think religion is a scam because you chose to call it false and say God is false. People who believe believe. It’s simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

Of course you don’t get it. You aren’t a believer. None of it makes sense to you and it never will. You’ll never find wisdom or peace or answers or comfort from religion, because you don’t believe. It’s not a mystery. Those of us that do believe do find those things. It’s understandable you think religion is a scam because you chose to call it false and say God is false. People who believe believe. It’s simple.

How would you explain it to someone who was sincerely interested in becoming a Christian, but was having dificulty accepting the idea of God sending people to hell for eternity for not believing in him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

Of course you don’t get it. You aren’t a believer. None of it makes sense to you and it never will. You’ll never find wisdom or peace or answers or comfort from religion, because you don’t believe. It’s not a mystery. Those of us that do believe do find those things. It’s understandable you think religion is a scam because you chose to call it false and say God is false. People who believe believe. It’s simple.

Many non-believers used to believe, but stopped after thinking about things related to religion that didn't make sense to them - like God sentencing his only child to death (for a while) so others could be saved and sending people to hell for eternity for not believing in him - all the while calling himself a kind and loving god.

[Anonymous]

I have known plenty of agnostics and even atheists who were basically decent people, had good morals and treated others well and fairly. Eventually, many of them became good Christians and continued to live decent, moral, kind lives.

I have also known church goers who claim to believe in God. They know exactly what to say and how to appear like good Christians but in reality they live some messed up lives and do some messed up and unkind things...sometimes in "the name" of God.

I think that it is normal and natural to question God and His existence. It is normal to waver in your faith. In the end, it is what is in your heart that matters the most.

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

Of course you don’t get it. You aren’t a believer. None of it makes sense to you and it never will. You’ll never find wisdom or peace or answers or comfort from religion, because you don’t believe. It’s not a mystery. Those of us that do believe do find those things. It’s understandable you think religion is a scam because you chose to call it false and say God is false. People who believe believe. It’s simple.

How would you explain it to someone who was sincerely interested in becoming a Christian, but was having dificulty accepting the idea of God sending people to hell for eternity for not believing in him?

“Just because God is loving, does not mean that he loves everything—there are some things that God doesn’t love, that in fact he hates. So he doesn’t love murder, or abuse, or selfishness, or pride. Actually, if he is loving, then he will hate these things. It wouldn’t be very loving of God to look at something like child abuse and say: “Well, I’m not really that bothered.”

So God is loving—and yet he doesn’t love everything.

And because this loving God hates bad things, he does something about it. And this is good news. We all have a kind of a sense of justice—so it’s good news that people who mistreat others are not allowed into God’s perfect kingdom, but are shut out—that is, they’re sent to hell.


And it’s not something that Jesus says flippantly or lightly, without caring. He doesn’t say it just to scare us. But he does say it to warn us—and to help us see how amazing it is that he offers us a way out.

Because this is the amazing news—that even though we all deserve punishment, even though we deserve to go to hell, Jesus—God himself—has provided a way out for us. He doesn’t do this by leaving things unpunished, and so forgetting about justice. He does it by himself taking our place; in his death taking our punishment and himself experiencing hell so that we don’t have to.

It seems to me as if this is a truly loving God. He loves the world enough to punish wrongdoing, and he loves people enough to take the punishment himself.

He loves us enough to give us a choice: we can to ask him to be part of our lives now, and so avoid hell and look forward to enjoying his perfect eternal kingdom.“


https://www.christianityexplored.org/Articles/469280/CE_ORG/Tough_Questions/Transcripts/07_How_can_a_loving.aspx

If you reject God but also believe he exists, I don’t know what to tell you. Agnostic and Atheists don’t believe in God and thus I don’t know why they would care what a God they don’t believe in does.

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Anonymous wrote:In the eyes of god, a Christian is always better.

Your proof? How about a bad Christian vs a good Jew? Does your god still pick the bad Christian?

A valid question.

I would like to believe that a good person regardless of religion or lack of is better then bad person regardless of religion or lack thereof.
If God is good and just then it would be logical that he puts good over bad.

God IS good and just. That's why ALL of us need a savior for our sins, which we all have. And He provided one in Himself, the LORD Jesus Christ. He doesn't care about labels, and His forgiveness is available to everyone in the world. If you refuse to believe in Him, that's your prerogative, but the LORD won't be blamed at the Judgment.

And HE - the good and just God -- will send you to hell for eternity. Why? Because you didn't believe in Him! Sounds like a scam to me. Yet some people believe it. Why? perhaps it makes them feel superior - or like they caught a lucky break.

Of course you don’t get it. You aren’t a believer. None of it makes sense to you and it never will. You’ll never find wisdom or peace or answers or comfort from religion, because you don’t believe. It’s not a mystery. Those of us that do believe do find those things. It’s understandable you think religion is a scam because you chose to call it false and say God is false. People who believe believe. It’s simple.

Many non-believers used to believe, but stopped after thinking about things related to religion that didn't make sense to them - like God sentencing his only child to death (for a while) so others could be saved and sending people to hell for eternity for not believing in him - all the while calling himself a kind and loving god.

Sounds like personal choices and decisions, and none of my business.