I live IB for L-T and know almost no one who plans to lottery for Brent or Maury for the upper grades once they've started at L-T. I have no doubt this used to happen in the past, but whereas as recently as 2015-2016, a non-trivial number of OOBers got in for PK3 and PK4 and there were 5 / 6 / 10 lottery spots for K / 1 / 2 and then 25 / 31 / 2 additional WL offers, last year there were no OOBers who got in for PK3 or 4 (and there was an IB WL) and there were 3 / 3 / 0 lottery spots for K / 1 / 2 with 0 / 4 / 0 WL offers. It's just a totally different school in the lower grades in terms of where the kids are coming from and to what degree they're staying. |
| ^^ This is not to say that Brent and Maury aren't great schools; they are. I just don't think L-T parents perceive a quality gap (if they ever did) or a cohort gap (which they definitely used to) anymore. People have very short memories and forget that the first big "IB" class at Maury are only 8th graders this year and the first class where Maury looked like Maury looks now (almost exclusively IB) is now 5th graders. Once the shift comes, it happens and solidifies quickly. Looking at L-T's trajectory and housing stock, I would place a large bet that only 5 years from now people will laugh at the idea that L-T used to be tiered differently than Brent and Maury. |
| I would suggest looking at Van Ness if the idea of a newer house appeals to you. I think it's a lovely school (not saying the others aren't too) and the Navy Yard is walkable to Barracks Row, Eastern Market, etc. For us it came down to a housing-type choice (we aren't handy and we didn't want to take on an older house, no matter how lovely). |
Super white + achievement gap. LT has higher scores for both white kids and AA kids. Hard to compare tho -- only 15 of 102 test takers at SWS were African American last year. |
You should check your math. It's wrong |
Not according to the new report cards. LT https://dcschoolreportcard.org/schools/1-0271/metric/parcc_msaa_34_reading?lang=en SWS https://dcschoolreportcard.org/schools/1-0175/metric/parcc_msaa_34_reading?lang=en |
Here's the data School Name Subject Subgroup Value Percent Meeting or Exceeding Expectations Total Number Valid Test Takers School-Within-School @ Goding ELA Black/African American 40.0% 15 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School ELA Black/African American 66.0% 94 School-Within-School @ Goding ELA White/Caucasian 86.1% 72 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School ELA White/Caucasian 90.5% 21 School-Within-School @ Goding Math Black/African American 20.0% 15 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School Math Black/African American 35.1% 94 School-Within-School @ Goding Math White/Caucasian 90.3% 72 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School Math White/Caucasian 95.2% 21 |
wait two years when the white students flooding LT lower grades balance out those equity adjustments. |
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How does the performance of students with disabilities and at-risk students compare?
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There's no equity adjustment. These are the actual scores. L-T has the highest scores on the Hill basically across the board for any individual subgroup. They just end up w/ a lower aggregate vis-a-vis some direct comparisons (not even all direct comparisons; I think they have the highest or close to the highest absolute ELA scores on the Hill) b/c they have different demographics. I know, I know, they drill and Brent and SWS do all art all the time and that's the only reason... Not to mention, there's absolutely no benefit later on to being drilled on how to take standardized tests. |
SWS doesn't meet the N for reporting at risk students. School Name Assessment Type Subject Subgroup Subgroup Value Percent Meeting or Exceeding Expectations Total Number Valid Test Takers Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School PARCC ELA Student Group At-Risk 54.8% 31 School-Within-School @ Goding PARCC ELA Student Group At-Risk n<10 n<10 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School PARCC ELA Student Group Students with Disabilities 26.3% 19 School-Within-School @ Goding PARCC ELA Student Group Students with Disabilities 50.0% 22 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School PARCC Math Student Group At-Risk 25.8% 31 School-Within-School @ Goding PARCC Math Student Group At-Risk n<10 n<10 Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School PARCC Math Student Group Students with Disabilities 26.3% 19 School-Within-School @ Goding PARCC Math Student Group Students with Disabilities 63.6% 22 |
False. People seem to find it impossible to understand that demographics drive the aggregate scores. Particularly in a city with an achievement gap as large as DC's, dis-aggregating the data tells you way more. In the sense that matters, L-T has the best test scores on the Hill. Full stop. Now, maybe you don't think test scores matter at all. Fine. But if you do, dis-aggregating the data is the only way to find out about much of anything beyond the demographics of a school. |
The students with disabilities comparison is fairly meaningless, because at SWS that almost exclusively means HFA b/c of their special placement program... I think DCPS actually even acknowledges somewhere that the "students with disabilities" category lumps together physical and mental disabilities so may not be particularly useful when comparing schools that have a "random" assortment of disabled students to schools that have a special program targeting one kind of disability. |
I’m the person who keeps pasting data from the OSSE spreadsheet. Fair point! Another issue is that for groups close to the minimum reporting size, one or two kids getting a three versus a four on the PARCC matters a lot. |
PP here - I was not referring to their PARCC scores, which really are a reflection of demographics. I am talking about SWS not dealing well with social behavior and challenging advanced learners. Oh and how they have a problem with the upper elementary art teacher spot. For all the art they espouse, not much happens after early elementary. |