Best Cap Hill elementary to middle?

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Anonymous wrote:This is true. I sometimes wonder if Spanish immersion was a good choice for Tyler ES a decade back. Payne's prospects look brighter to me, with a snazzy renovation a few years ago, strong new leadership, greater community buy-in in the lower grades all the time, and hundreds of new residential units going up in the Payne District.

If I were the chancellor, I would cluster Brent and Tyler. Make the smaller school all bilingual and the larger monolingual and let everyone in-boundary rank their preferences. More bilingual seats and greater economic diversity.

Clustering is the solution to improving Miner, Payne, and Tyler that freaks everyone the f out. But I am in favor of it. EH should be closed and combined with SH or Jefferson. QED.

I would love to see Maury and Miner clustered (you could make Miner the PK3-1 and Maury the 2-5) and Brent and Tyler clustered (one bilingual one not).

If EH closes and everyone gets a right to SH (closer than Jefferson) the school would be overcrowded. One option would be to put all the 6th and 7th graders at one and the 8th graders at another (or do 5th and 6th at one, 7&8 at the other, and leave more room for PK-4 at the elementaries). It would also help if Payne became a Jefferson feeder and SWS stopped having a feeder--it's a citywide school so everyone could just go to their IB MS.

SWS feeder irrelevant as very few families no one goes to EH. Maybe DCPS should let SWS go through 8th grade like CHML

Horrible idea - SWS has a hard time dealing with upper elementary, which is part of the reason why people aren’t unhappy to jump to charter at 5th.

The parents who jump from SWS do so in 5th grade, not 3rd or 4th, and they do so for the exact same reasons that Brent and Maury families leave - because they see a better MS path in charters. A lot of those families would stay through 8th if the option was there. For a school that spends zero time doing PARCC prep SWS still scores among the highest in DC, including 5th grade.

Two kids at SWS in/through upper elementary. Not accurate to say zero time doing PARCC prep. Teachers assign PARCC problems as homework and strongly encourage parents to get their kids using Typing Agent. They also spend time teaching the kids how to navigate the screens etc. It's not a lot, but it's there and I think it's the right amount. I just don't want the impression out there that SWS doesn't do anything to prep kids for PARCC. They do; I can't imagine there's a school out there that doesn't do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:This is true. I sometimes wonder if Spanish immersion was a good choice for Tyler ES a decade back. Payne's prospects look brighter to me, with a snazzy renovation a few years ago, strong new leadership, greater community buy-in in the lower grades all the time, and hundreds of new residential units going up in the Payne District.

If I were the chancellor, I would cluster Brent and Tyler. Make the smaller school all bilingual and the larger monolingual and let everyone in-boundary rank their preferences. More bilingual seats and greater economic diversity.

Clustering is the solution to improving Miner, Payne, and Tyler that freaks everyone the f out. But I am in favor of it. EH should be closed and combined with SH or Jefferson. QED.

I would love to see Maury and Miner clustered (you could make Miner the PK3-1 and Maury the 2-5) and Brent and Tyler clustered (one bilingual one not).

If EH closes and everyone gets a right to SH (closer than Jefferson) the school would be overcrowded. One option would be to put all the 6th and 7th graders at one and the 8th graders at another (or do 5th and 6th at one, 7&8 at the other, and leave more room for PK-4 at the elementaries). It would also help if Payne became a Jefferson feeder and SWS stopped having a feeder--it's a citywide school so everyone could just go to their IB MS.

SWS feeder irrelevant as very few families no one goes to EH. Maybe DCPS should let SWS go through 8th grade like CHML

Horrible idea - SWS has a hard time dealing with upper elementary, which is part of the reason why people aren’t unhappy to jump to charter at 5th.

The parents who jump from SWS do so in 5th grade, not 3rd or 4th, and they do so for the exact same reasons that Brent and Maury families leave - because they see a better MS path in charters. A lot of those families would stay through 8th if the option was there. For a school that spends zero time doing PARCC prep SWS still scores among the highest in DC, including 5th grade.

Super white + achievement gap. LT has higher scores for both white kids and AA kids. Hard to compare tho -- only 15 of 102 test takers at SWS were African American last year.

You should check your math. It's wrong

False. People seem to find it impossible to understand that demographics drive the aggregate scores. Particularly in a city with an achievement gap as large as DC's, dis-aggregating the data tells you way more. In the sense that matters, L-T has the best test scores on the Hill. Full stop. Now, maybe you don't think test scores matter at all. Fine. But if you do, dis-aggregating the data is the only way to find out about much of anything beyond the demographics of a school.

Yes, but really, why bother dis-aggregating the data when a DC school has already reached the tipping point pushing it into the realm of overwhelmingly UMC, with the at-risk rate in the low single digits? If the UMC parents are there in force, things work out. You might have to supplement a certain amount, particularly to teach grammar, writing, spelling and punctuation, but never mind, you can swing it, or pay somebody who can for your savings on private school tuition.

I'm in the L-T District and went to some lengths to avoid the school when my oldest was heading to K 4 for years back, because demographics don't just drive the aggregate scores, they drive the prospect of a worthy 4th and 5th grade experience. People seem to find it impossible to understand that just because things are rosy in K or 1st grade doesn't mean that they'll be OK two or three years hence. A good many of the parents who swear they'll stay will not. Change comes more slowly than your garden variety Hill optimist parent expects.

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Over the years, if I had a dollar for every neighbor who started at a Cap Hill DCPS in PreS3 or PreK4 or K proclaiming that they were going to stay "all the way up" but didn't, I'd have done well financially.

You almost have to be there in 3rd or 4th grade to understand how quickly things can go south in a Title 1 program, especially if your student's a bookworm who also excels at math. A transitional program like LT (in the 2-year Title 1 phase-out stage) just isn't going to work to 5th grade for around half the parents who think it is.

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To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

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Buy the home you like.

Commit to making your neighborhood school the one you want it to be. Your kids will "turn out" just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

Independent admissions are competitive in DC and some families want to hedge their bets before MS. Not surprised to see this in affluent catchment. Don't assume it's over dissatisfaction with Brent as much as with public MS options. I'm not saying I agree with that assessment but there are plenty of Hill families who won't even hold their nose long enough to step foot in Jefferson let alone consider enrolling their kids there.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

We are at Brent, and half-dozen kids aren't really that much, considering there is a fairly high contingent of families that cycle in/out of oversea appointments and also military families. My DD is starting 4th grade in the fall and everyone we know is staying and many people are hoping to stay in DCPS for middle school. Granted, we'll see if people actually follow through with that intent, and I'm sure a lot of kids will peel off for chapters in 5th grade, but I think there is much more optimism now than I've ever seen.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

We are at Brent, and half-dozen kids aren't really that much, considering there is a fairly high contingent of families that cycle in/out of oversea appointments and also military families. My DD is starting 4th grade in the fall and everyone we know is staying and many people are hoping to stay in DCPS for middle school. Granted, we'll see if people actually follow through with that intent, and I'm sure a lot of kids will peel off for chapters in 5th grade, but I think there is much more optimism now than I've ever seen.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

Gah, sorry. My response was in bold.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

We are at Brent, and half-dozen kids aren't really that much, considering there is a fairly high contingent of families that cycle in/out of oversea appointments and also military families. My DD is starting 4th grade in the fall and everyone we know is staying and many people are hoping to stay in DCPS for middle school. Granted, we'll see if people actually follow through with that intent, and I'm sure a lot of kids will peel off for chapters in 5th grade, but I think there is much more optimism now than I've ever seen.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

Gah, sorry. My response was in bold.

This would be great. Also the parent of a rising 4th grader and really hoping there is a group that is going to Jefferson.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

We are at Brent, and half-dozen kids aren't really that much, considering there is a fairly high contingent of families that cycle in/out of oversea appointments and also military families. My DD is starting 4th grade in the fall and everyone we know is staying and many people are hoping to stay in DCPS for middle school. Granted, we'll see if people actually follow through with that intent, and I'm sure a lot of kids will peel off for chapters in 5th grade, but I think there is much more optimism now than I've ever seen.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

Gah, sorry. My response was in bold.

This would be great. Also the parent of a rising 4th grader and really hoping there is a group that is going to Jefferson.

I'm the PP and yup, I'm keeping that option open. Will be bringing my 4th grader on school tours this fall. Will also try our luck with the charters, because it seems crazy not to, but I think we'll be OK either way. Moving is the least desirable option. I also heard that Jefferson will be offering a Spanish language class for kids who'd gone through Spanish immersion at Tyler in the fall, which may attract more students.

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Anonymous wrote:To the last two posters, I’d say that when you’re comparing test scores... test results, you DO need to disaggregate as the kick ass data poster said, because when you do you see that LT white kids are out scoring other Cap Hill elementary schools white kids ant their black kids are scoring higher too. That was the point — one driven home very effectively by hard data. If you want to try say that parents won’t stay through 5th, that’s an opinion, but their 5 graders are testing very well. As a current LT parent with two kids attending, one in 4th, I can tell you we plan to stay as do many others and I don’t attrition will be any worse than at other “top” cap hill elementary schools.

You don't sound like you've been no the Hill for more than a decade, like we have (25 years and counting). Unfortunately, you're wrong. Attrition will be a good deal higher in the upper grades at LT than Maury, Brent and SWS for at least five years, probably ten. Test scores are beside the point. Few UMC parents give a hoot about them - they care about demographics. It's taken Brent 15 years to keep most of the ECE parents to 4th grade. UMC families mostly leave these schools until the upper grades are majority UMC.

I've been on the Hill for 20+ years. IB families didn't start being interested in their neighborhood schools until around 2004 or so - 15 years ago. It's now been years that Brent and Maury have kept most of their ECE parents through 4th grade. It's going to happen soon for LT as well. You sound like you are 'stuck in time' about the state of DCPS schools and families attendance. And you need to check your historical understanding.

We are at Brent, and half-dozen kids aren't really that much, considering there is a fairly high contingent of families that cycle in/out of oversea appointments and also military families. My DD is starting 4th grade in the fall and everyone we know is staying and many people are hoping to stay in DCPS for middle school. Granted, we'll see if people actually follow through with that intent, and I'm sure a lot of kids will peel off for chapters in 5th grade, but I think there is much more optimism now than I've ever seen.

New poster who must be "stuck in time" when I note that half a dozen kids won't be returning to my kid's original ECE cohort after 3rd grade, not at Ludlow...at Brent. These families are moving out of the District or going private in this area mainly over Hill public school issues. You still see an upper grades/ms/hs exodus almost everywhere you look in DCPS, just not one as large as five or ten years ago.

Perhaps I need to check my historical understanding while doing this headcount for 4th grade. OK, counted again minus historical understanding. Gosh, my calculations held up.

Gah, sorry. My response was in bold.

This would be great. Also the parent of a rising 4th grader and really hoping there is a group that is going to Jefferson.

There will be a few who make that move but most of Brent community will not, whatever lip service they provide to seem polite to others.

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^THIS. I've been polite to others. Have visited Jefferson and tried to keep an open mind for a couple years now. Forget it. Would rather move to MD or VA than enroll.