50% of all U.S. immigrants on welfare program(s)

[Anonymous]

Pretty darn good English for an “immigrant.” I work with immigrants every day and this is the best immigrant English I have ever seen except for native speakers. Even my German sister in law who went to college he and has been here for thirty years can’t write this well.

Jesus are you actually doubting I am immigrant now. I came to this country 12 years back on a student visa. I am naturalized citizen now and a proud American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Lame response.

More likely this is all just anecdotal BS and you haven't reported it because you don't actually know what to report because it's all just stuff you heard.

Lame Response ??? indeed I am an immigrant who is talking to you about welfare abuse that happens by other immigrants. I obviously cannot report it because these are people I know, and I interact with. I have told them this it is wrong to their faces, but I will not go behind their back and squeal to the authorities. That may be the a$$h0l3 that you are but not me.

All I can do is post on an anonymous forum and put my message out there and hope that someone will listen. Further, I will support any government policy that will close such loopholes. Congratulations you just managed to further alienate a former Democrat. Even when it comes to common sense topics like this I cannot get a united voice. Why would you even be surprised that this abuse has been going on? it's not like Fraud and Abuse of a gov program is an alien concept to you.?

YES, lame response and you are full of crap. If you are not reporting it then you are part of the problem.

Multiple frantic replies pretending to be different people won't change the fact that you are full of crap and neither will claiming that you are a "former Democrat"

You are FULL OF CRAP.

If you truly believe there is wrongdoing and you have firsthand knowledge of it then either put up or shut up. And stop wasting our time with your lame complaints on an anonymous message board. If you have the time to complain on an anonymous message board then you sure as f*ck have time to make an anonymous complaint with the appropriate authorities rather than wasting our time here on your nonsense in some attempt to talk about policy, particularly given that if what you say is true then you are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lame response.

More likely this is all just anecdotal BS and you haven't reported it because you don't actually know what to report because it's all just stuff you heard.

Lame Response ??? indeed I am an immigrant who is talking to you about welfare abuse that happens by other immigrants. I obviously cannot report it because these are people I know, and I interact with. I have told them this it is wrong to their faces, but I will not go behind their back and squeal to the authorities. That may be the a$$h0l3 that you are but not me.

All I can do is post on an anonymous forum and put my message out there and hope that someone will listen. Further, I will support any government policy that will close such loopholes. Congratulations you just managed to further alienate a former Democrat. Even when it comes to common sense topics like this I cannot get a united voice. Why would you even be surprised that this abuse has been going on? it's not like Fraud and Abuse of a gov program is an alien concept to you.?

YES, lame response and you are full of crap. If you are not reporting it then you are part of the problem.

Multiple frantic replies pretending to be different people won't change the fact that you are full of crap and neither will claiming that you are a "former Democrat"

You are FULL OF CRAP.

If you truly believe there is wrongdoing and you have firsthand knowledge of it then either put up or shut up. And stop wasting our time with your lame complaints on an anonymous message board. If you have the time to complain on an anonymous message board then you sure as f*ck have time to make an anonymous complaint with the appropriate authorities rather than wasting our time here on your nonsense in some attempt to talk about policy, particularly given that if what you say is true then you are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Uou really need to read up about the asian community.

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html#tth_sEcB

Chinese advocacy groups have made major efforts to promote use of SSI by Chinese immigrants. They have campaigned heavily, through the Chinese community centers, Chinese-language television, Chinese newspapers and so on, disseminating information about SSI, and urging the seniors to come in and apply. Indeed it probably has fostered the ``library card'' perception of SSI, in which the seniors perceive SSI as a normal benefit of immigration, rather than as a safety net for the financially desperate.

Picture the Chinese and Koreans taking the legendary energy they use in academics and business, and now applying that energy to promoting welfare usage by the old folks, and then you’ll understand the enormous drive to get immigrants to sign up for SSI. The Chinese community organizations, such as Self Help for the Elderly (yes, an ironic name) in San Francisco, the Chinatown Service Center in Los Angeles and the City Hall Senior Center in New York’s Chinatown, pulled out all the stops in promoting SSI, Medicaid and subsidized senior housing (including campaigning for the building of such housing). Chinese-language public service TV programs, such as on Channel 26 KTSF of the Bay Area, would regularly dispense advice on how to obtain these benefits, and the World Journal, the largest Chinese-language newspaper in the U.S., ran a weekly Dear Abby-style advice column on obtaining welfare.

Large numbers of the recipients of assistance arguably didn’t need it. A typical scenario in the Bay Area at the time (and still largely true today) involved a senior on SSI, living with his son and daughter-in-law, both Silicon Valley engineers from China or Taiwan. The son would have applied for the parent for immigration, promising the keep the parent off welfare for 5 years (increased from 3 years by the 1993 legislation), but would have planned ahead of time to put the parent on welfare after that. All perfectly legal, mind you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lame response.

More likely this is all just anecdotal BS and you haven't reported it because you don't actually know what to report because it's all just stuff you heard.

Lame Response ??? indeed I am an immigrant who is talking to you about welfare abuse that happens by other immigrants. I obviously cannot report it because these are people I know, and I interact with. I have told them this it is wrong to their faces, but I will not go behind their back and squeal to the authorities. That may be the a$$h0l3 that you are but not me.

All I can do is post on an anonymous forum and put my message out there and hope that someone will listen. Further, I will support any government policy that will close such loopholes. Congratulations you just managed to further alienate a former Democrat. Even when it comes to common sense topics like this I cannot get a united voice. Why would you even be surprised that this abuse has been going on? it's not like Fraud and Abuse of a gov program is an alien concept to you.?

YES, lame response and you are full of crap. If you are not reporting it then you are part of the problem.

Multiple frantic replies pretending to be different people won't change the fact that you are full of crap and neither will claiming that you are a "former Democrat"

You are FULL OF CRAP.

If you truly believe there is wrongdoing and you have firsthand knowledge of it then either put up or shut up. And stop wasting our time with your lame complaints on an anonymous message board. If you have the time to complain on an anonymous message board then you sure as f*ck have time to make an anonymous complaint with the appropriate authorities rather than wasting our time here on your nonsense in some attempt to talk about policy, particularly given that if what you say is true then you are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Uou really need to read up about the asian community.

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html#tth_sEcB

Chinese advocacy groups have made major efforts to promote use of SSI by Chinese immigrants. They have campaigned heavily, through the Chinese community centers, Chinese-language television, Chinese newspapers and so on, disseminating information about SSI, and urging the seniors to come in and apply. Indeed it probably has fostered the ``library card'' perception of SSI, in which the seniors perceive SSI as a normal benefit of immigration, rather than as a safety net for the financially desperate.

Picture the Chinese and Koreans taking the legendary energy they use in academics and business, and now applying that energy to promoting welfare usage by the old folks, and then you’ll understand the enormous drive to get immigrants to sign up for SSI. The Chinese community organizations, such as Self Help for the Elderly (yes, an ironic name) in San Francisco, the Chinatown Service Center in Los Angeles and the City Hall Senior Center in New York’s Chinatown, pulled out all the stops in promoting SSI, Medicaid and subsidized senior housing (including campaigning for the building of such housing). Chinese-language public service TV programs, such as on Channel 26 KTSF of the Bay Area, would regularly dispense advice on how to obtain these benefits, and the World Journal, the largest Chinese-language newspaper in the U.S., ran a weekly Dear Abby-style advice column on obtaining welfare.

Large numbers of the recipients of assistance arguably didn’t need it. A typical scenario in the Bay Area at the time (and still largely true today) involved a senior on SSI, living with his son and daughter-in-law, both Silicon Valley engineers from China or Taiwan. The son would have applied for the parent for immigration, promising the keep the parent off welfare for 5 years (increased from 3 years by the 1993 legislation), but would have planned ahead of time to put the parent on welfare after that. All perfectly legal, mind you.

thank you Democrats and Mr. Z

time to take down the oligarchs and send back the chinese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lame response.

More likely this is all just anecdotal BS and you haven't reported it because you don't actually know what to report because it's all just stuff you heard.

Lame Response ??? indeed I am an immigrant who is talking to you about welfare abuse that happens by other immigrants. I obviously cannot report it because these are people I know, and I interact with. I have told them this it is wrong to their faces, but I will not go behind their back and squeal to the authorities. That may be the a$$h0l3 that you are but not me.

All I can do is post on an anonymous forum and put my message out there and hope that someone will listen. Further, I will support any government policy that will close such loopholes. Congratulations you just managed to further alienate a former Democrat. Even when it comes to common sense topics like this I cannot get a united voice. Why would you even be surprised that this abuse has been going on? it's not like Fraud and Abuse of a gov program is an alien concept to you.?

YES, lame response and you are full of crap. If you are not reporting it then you are part of the problem.

Multiple frantic replies pretending to be different people won't change the fact that you are full of crap and neither will claiming that you are a "former Democrat"

You are FULL OF CRAP.

If you truly believe there is wrongdoing and you have firsthand knowledge of it then either put up or shut up. And stop wasting our time with your lame complaints on an anonymous message board. If you have the time to complain on an anonymous message board then you sure as f*ck have time to make an anonymous complaint with the appropriate authorities rather than wasting our time here on your nonsense in some attempt to talk about policy, particularly given that if what you say is true then you are PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Uou really need to read up about the asian community.

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html#tth_sEcB

Chinese advocacy groups have made major efforts to promote use of SSI by Chinese immigrants. They have campaigned heavily, through the Chinese community centers, Chinese-language television, Chinese newspapers and so on, disseminating information about SSI, and urging the seniors to come in and apply. Indeed it probably has fostered the ``library card'' perception of SSI, in which the seniors perceive SSI as a normal benefit of immigration, rather than as a safety net for the financially desperate.

Picture the Chinese and Koreans taking the legendary energy they use in academics and business, and now applying that energy to promoting welfare usage by the old folks, and then you’ll understand the enormous drive to get immigrants to sign up for SSI. The Chinese community organizations, such as Self Help for the Elderly (yes, an ironic name) in San Francisco, the Chinatown Service Center in Los Angeles and the City Hall Senior Center in New York’s Chinatown, pulled out all the stops in promoting SSI, Medicaid and subsidized senior housing (including campaigning for the building of such housing). Chinese-language public service TV programs, such as on Channel 26 KTSF of the Bay Area, would regularly dispense advice on how to obtain these benefits, and the World Journal, the largest Chinese-language newspaper in the U.S., ran a weekly Dear Abby-style advice column on obtaining welfare.

Large numbers of the recipients of assistance arguably didn’t need it. A typical scenario in the Bay Area at the time (and still largely true today) involved a senior on SSI, living with his son and daughter-in-law, both Silicon Valley engineers from China or Taiwan. The son would have applied for the parent for immigration, promising the keep the parent off welfare for 5 years (increased from 3 years by the 1993 legislation), but would have planned ahead of time to put the parent on welfare after that. All perfectly legal, mind you.

thank you Democrats and Mr. Z

time to take down the oligarchs and send back the chinese.

Then who will pay for the Kushners?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

Indians too. All kinds of relatives parents here proudly drawing social security and Medicaid and bragging about it without having paid in a dime bc they lived in India their whole working lives and came to live with their kids when they got their precious IT jobs. Fuckers. Why not change the system - the rest of us need to pay in for 40 quarters but they don’t??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Including school lunches in this really muddies the numbers.

Lunches? How about breakfast, lunch and late afternoon snacks.

Weekend backpacks of food that are funded by the PTAs

But why? Yeah these ppl had tough lives where they’re from — we’ve taken them in, given then free k-12, lunches/breakfasts during the week. Sorry but there’s a limit - who are these people willing to donate for WEEKEND food? Liberals?? Isn’t that what the parents illegal money should be doing - buying weekend and weeknight dinner food? I certainly wouldn’t be donating $ to buy weekend food and if that’s where my PTA was spending its cash, I wouldn’t spend a dollar at their bake sales, fundraisers etc.

[Anonymous]

I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is there to report and who do you call. What, do I call medicare and say "Hi, my uncle who is 80 years old and an American citizen should not be getting Medicare because he never worked here." That's not going to work.

I also have relatives who are holding assets abroad but taking in social security disability benefits as well as Medicaid. This is actually fraudulent, but I hesitate to report it and don't know who to report it to or even if you did report it, how do I know how much in assets they have or where they're hiding them? I just know they have a shitload of money in a foreign bank but they aren't reporting any of it here.

Further, why should MY relatives get in trouble when I know that there are possibly millions of other people doing the same thing?

1. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+report+medicare+fraud

2. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+report+social+security+fraud

3. Because they are the ones you can do something about right now.

[Anonymous]

so this is what it comes to. trying to have people follow the original rules of 3 years for h1b and it is a catastrophe, per Obama officials.

this is why Democrats lost and have sold out the US worker

“This would be a major catastrophic development as many people have been waiting in line for green cards for over a decade, have U.S. citizen children, own a home,” said Leon Fresco, who served as a deputy assistant attorney general for the Justice Department in the Obama administration who now represent H-1B workers.

Fresco estimates more than 1 million H1-B visa holders in the country are waiting for green cards, many of whom are from India and have been waiting for more than a decade.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article192336839.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Pretty darn good English for an “immigrant.” I work with immigrants every day and this is the best immigrant English I have ever seen except for native speakers. Even my German sister in law who went to college he and has been here for thirty years can’t write this well.

Jesus are you actually doubting I am immigrant now. I came to this country 12 years back on a student visa. I am naturalized citizen now and a proud American.

An immigrant? You know you can’t get a green card much less citizenship from a student visa. Are you a chain migrant of some kind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so this is what it comes to. trying to have people follow the original rules of 3 years for h1b and it is a catastrophe, per Obama officials.

this is why Democrats lost and have sold out the US worker

“This would be a major catastrophic development as many people have been waiting in line for green cards for over a decade, have U.S. citizen children, own a home,” said Leon Fresco, who served as a deputy assistant attorney general for the Justice Department in the Obama administration who now represent H-1B workers.

Fresco estimates more than 1 million H1-B visa holders in the country are waiting for green cards, many of whom are from India and have been waiting for more than a decade.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article192336839.html

Trump too has sold out the US workers.

https://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/538387033/trumps-private-clubs-in-florida-are-seeking-visas-for-foreign-workers

The Trump Organization is asking the federal government for special visas to hire scores of foreign workers for two of President Trump's private clubs in Florida — the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach and the Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter.

The requests for H-2B visas, posted on the Department of Labor website, are for 26 cooks, nearly 50 waiters and waitresses, plus housekeepers, a hostess and a bartender. The jobs range in pay from just under $12 to less than $14 an hour. Mar-a-Lago and the Jupiter club have relied on foreign workers in past years for staffing during their peak seasons, which run October through May.

This year, the request for foreign workers comes in the middle of "Made in America" week at the White House. Trump, who has had his own line of ties manufactured overseas, says he wants U.S. companies to focus this week on ways to create more opportunities for American labor.

He is a complete hypocrite. These are jobs that low skilled Americans can do. Instead, Trump's businesses want to hire foreigners who will probably over stay their visas and eventually become illegal immigrants.

Trump also increased these h2b visas by a whopping 15K more in the first few months of his presidency. Why, I have no idea since there are thousands of unemployed low skilled workers in America (more illegal immigrants overstay their visas than cross the border illegally). Even Fox News thinks that was a bad idea.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/21/trump-expands-h-2b-visa-program-as-critics-say-its-ripe-for-abuse.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

That sounds like a medical eye issue, not a vision.