N word at Whitman

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Anonymous wrote:It is not surprising at the lack of sensitivity given how segregated the W's are.

Oh for heaven's sake. The wealthy/western/white schools are certainly segregated economically. But even the whitest of the schools, Whitman, is only 2/3 white. Walter Johnson and Churchill are about half white, and Wootton is less than half white. If you only went by what you read on DCUM, you'd think that Whitman was basically like Mountain Brook HS. Now that's a segregated school (by design): https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbhs

That seems dishonest. Whitman is 9% Hispanic and 4% black. Segregation is alive in well in western Montgomery county.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School/#Race_ethnicity*Test_scores*Overview

This is true only if you count Asian-heritage people as honorary whites. Which, indeed, some people often do seem to do, when it comes to Whitman. But they never seem to do that, when it comes to Wootton. Why the inconsistency?

It's amazing how much lack of awareness Whitman parents have. The whole "we have Asians" or "IMF kids" is not relevant when discussing the N word. Besides, of the 4% 1/2 are west African.

So basically, when you say "segregation", you are referring specifically and exclusively to percentages of kids whose ancestors arrived in the US as part of the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

I 'm not a Whitman parent.

Kids at Whitman are using the N word, that is what the thread is about. So yes, we are talking about black kids not wealthy Western African kids.

In the Whitman district most the black kids who have ancestors that were slaves are kept in a few neighborhoods. They are still segregated from wealthy people. I think it is called Tobytown. They are all over The "W" districts, neighborhoods that were given to slaves after they were freed. In Churchill, it is called Scottland.

So yes, Whitman has an issue with the way black kids are treated at school. The parents are clueless and the black parents with money send their kids to private schools like Landon.

[Anonymous]

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Kids at Whitman are using the N word, that is what the thread is about. So yes, we are talking about black kids not wealthy Western African kids.

In the Whitman district most the black kids who have ancestors that were slaves are kept in a few neighborhoods. They are still segregated from wealthy people. I think it is called Tobytown. They are all over The "W" districts, neighborhoods that were given to slaves after they were freed. In Churchill, it is called Scottland.

So yes, Whitman has an issue with the way black kids are treated at school. The parents are clueless and the black parents with money send their kids to private schools like Landon.

Please read up on Tobytown. Also on Scotland. Nobody gave those families any land; they bought it. Also please read up on African American history in Montgomery County in general. There's a lot of it. Here's a link to an interactive map of county-Designated African American historic sites and districts: http://montgomeryplanningboard.org/blog-news/2016/02/23/montgomery-planning-department-launches-map-of-county-designated-african-american-historic-sites-and-districts-to-honor-black-history/

(Tobytown is zoned for Wootton.)

[Anonymous]

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Kids at Whitman are using the N word, that is what the thread is about. So yes, we are talking about black kids not wealthy Western African kids.

In the Whitman district most the black kids who have ancestors that were slaves are kept in a few neighborhoods. They are still segregated from wealthy people. I think it is called Tobytown. They are all over The "W" districts, neighborhoods that were given to slaves after they were freed. In Churchill, it is called Scottland.

So yes, Whitman has an issue with the way black kids are treated at school. The parents are clueless and the black parents with money send their kids to private schools like Landon.

Please read up on Tobytown. Also on Scotland. Nobody gave those families any land; they bought it. Also please read up on African American history in Montgomery County in general. There's a lot of it. Here's a link to an interactive map of county-Designated African American historic sites and districts: http://montgomeryplanningboard.org/blog-news/2016/02/23/montgomery-planning-department-launches-map-of-county-designated-african-american-historic-sites-and-districts-to-honor-black-history/

(Tobytown is zoned for Wootton.)

I have more info than u can find on a website.

The fact is there is segregation in W districts.

#deniali

[Anonymous]

Do ya all know how crazy you sound?
'Asians are white people'
'West Africans arent black people'
'All rich people are white segregationists even if they arent white.'
'Only rich people go to a W school, except the non racist rich who go to rich private schools'
'Disagree with me and you are a racist'

Is the only thing you see a persons race? You all are racist.
I feel for the Principal, no matter what he does he cant win. But the real issue here isn't kids being kids in school saying stupid stuff cause they are kids. The real problem us the parents who all hate each other for no damn good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do ya all know how crazy you sound?
'Asians are white people'
'West Africans arent black people'
'All rich people are white segregationists even if they arent white.'
'Only rich people go to a W school, except the non racist rich who go to rich private schools'
'Disagree with me and you are a racist'

Is the only thing you see a persons race? You all are racist.
I feel for the Principal, no matter what he does he cant win. But the real issue here isn't kids being kids in school saying stupid stuff cause they are kids. The real problem us the parents who all hate each other for no damn good reason.

Sorry, this upsets you; however, students would likely refrain from using ugly racial slurs if their school wasn't segregated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do ya all know how crazy you sound?
'Asians are white people'
'West Africans arent black people'
'All rich people are white segregationists even if they arent white.'
'Only rich people go to a W school, except the non racist rich who go to rich private schools'
'Disagree with me and you are a racist'

Is the only thing you see a persons race? You all are racist.
I feel for the Principal, no matter what he does he cant win. But the real issue here isn't kids being kids in school saying stupid stuff cause they are kids. The real problem us the parents who all hate each other for no damn good reason.

Sometimes when something bothers somebody so much it points to something inside yourself that you are unwilling to change. Recognizing you are hateful towards others is a good start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do ya all know how crazy you sound?
'Asians are white people'
'West Africans arent black people'
'All rich people are white segregationists even if they arent white.'
'Only rich people go to a W school, except the non racist rich who go to rich private schools'
'Disagree with me and you are a racist'

Is the only thing you see a persons race? You all are racist.
I feel for the Principal, no matter what he does he cant win. But the real issue here isn't kids being kids in school saying stupid stuff cause they are kids. The real problem us the parents who all hate each other for no damn good reason.

Sometimes when something bothers somebody so much it points to something inside yourself that you are unwilling to change. Recognizing you are hateful towards others is a good start.

I aint the one bothered sweetie

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do ya all know how crazy you sound?
'Asians are white people'
'West Africans arent black people'
'All rich people are white segregationists even if they arent white.'
'Only rich people go to a W school, except the non racist rich who go to rich private schools'
'Disagree with me and you are a racist'

Is the only thing you see a persons race? You all are racist.
I feel for the Principal, no matter what he does he cant win. But the real issue here isn't kids being kids in school saying stupid stuff cause they are kids. The real problem us the parents who all hate each other for no damn good reason.

Sometimes when something bothers somebody so much it points to something inside yourself that you are unwilling to change. Recognizing you are hateful towards others is a good start.

I aint the one bothered sweetie

Yes you are sweetie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is not surprising at the lack of sensitivity given how segregated the W's are.

Oh for heaven's sake. The wealthy/western/white schools are certainly segregated economically. But even the whitest of the schools, Whitman, is only 2/3 white. Walter Johnson and Churchill are about half white, and Wootton is less than half white. If you only went by what you read on DCUM, you'd think that Whitman was basically like Mountain Brook HS. Now that's a segregated school (by design): https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbhs

That seems dishonest. Whitman is 9% Hispanic and 4% black. Segregation is alive in well in western Montgomery county.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School/#Race_ethnicity*Test_scores*Overview

This is true only if you count Asian-heritage people as honorary whites. Which, indeed, some people often do seem to do, when it comes to Whitman. But they never seem to do that, when it comes to Wootton. Why the inconsistency?

It's amazing how much lack of awareness Whitman parents have. The whole "we have Asians" or "IMF kids" is not relevant when discussing the N word. Besides, of the 4% 1/2 are west African.

So basically, when you say "segregation", you are referring specifically and exclusively to percentages of kids whose ancestors arrived in the US as part of the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

I 'm not a Whitman parent.

Kids at Whitman are using the N word, that is what the thread is about. So yes, we are talking about black kids not wealthy Western African kids.

In the Whitman district most the black kids who have ancestors that were slaves are kept in a few neighborhoods. They are still segregated from wealthy people. I think it is called Tobytown. They are all over The "W" districts, neighborhoods that were given to slaves after they were freed. In Churchill, it is called Scottland.

So yes, Whitman has an issue with the way black kids are treated at school. The parents are clueless and the black parents with money send their kids to private schools like Landon.

And people wonder why I, an immigrant, am appealed at racism here. I knew and posted about VA being the hotbed of racism, but this is truly eye opening! "The black kids who have ancestors that were slaves ARE KEPT in a ...."Please tell me you are black, because otherwise this is unbearable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not surprising at the lack of sensitivity given how segregated the W's are.

Oh for heaven's sake. The wealthy/western/white schools are certainly segregated economically. But even the whitest of the schools, Whitman, is only 2/3 white. Walter Johnson and Churchill are about half white, and Wootton is less than half white. If you only went by what you read on DCUM, you'd think that Whitman was basically like Mountain Brook HS. Now that's a segregated school (by design): https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbhs

That seems dishonest. Whitman is 9% Hispanic and 4% black. Segregation is alive in well in western Montgomery county.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School/#Race_ethnicity*Test_scores*Overview

This is true only if you count Asian-heritage people as honorary whites. Which, indeed, some people often do seem to do, when it comes to Whitman. But they never seem to do that, when it comes to Wootton. Why the inconsistency?

It's amazing how much lack of awareness Whitman parents have. The whole "we have Asians" or "IMF kids" is not relevant when discussing the N word. Besides, of the 4% 1/2 are west African.

So basically, when you say "segregation", you are referring specifically and exclusively to percentages of kids whose ancestors arrived in the US as part of the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

I 'm not a Whitman parent.

Kids at Whitman are using the N word, that is what the thread is about. So yes, we are talking about black kids not wealthy Western African kids.

In the Whitman district most the black kids who have ancestors that were slaves are kept in a few neighborhoods. They are still segregated from wealthy people. I think it is called Tobytown. They are all over The "W" districts, neighborhoods that were given to slaves after they were freed. In Churchill, it is called Scottland.

So yes, Whitman has an issue with the way black kids are treated at school. The parents are clueless and the black parents with money send their kids to private schools like Landon.

And people wonder why I, an immigrant, am appealed at racism here. I knew and posted about VA being the hotbed of racism, but this is truly eye opening! "The black kids who have ancestors that were slaves ARE KEPT in a ...."Please tell me you are black, because otherwise this is unbearable.

What would you call it when these neighborhoods segregated from other neighborhoods are for poor black families. Many govt subsidized.

In other parts of moco, govt houses are spread throughout neighborhoods ... but not in W districts. Blacks are kept in their own neighborhood.

They also didn't want a soccer fields put in because Hispanic men would show up with pupusa trucks. The list serve was full of racist comments.

W's move there as a way to self segregate... plain and simple.

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I thought they want a safe space from tge non blacks

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

I think PP is just being polite. What you don't understand is why certain people are trying to logic that slavery and segregation before, has resulted in "violence, hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness" in current day America. Many people do not understand this. It is quite the chip on one's shoulder.

I'm Jewish. Back in college I recall being part of some late night philosophical conversation between a few Blacks, Israelis and American Jews. We were all making the case for how slighted we were in the world but needed to make the best of it now. Unfortunately, in many circles, I do not think citizenship or patriotism will ever have more allegiance over race.

I have to disagree. Before LBJ's Great Society, Black Americans where enjoying increasing employment, business ownership, home ownership, decreasing crime, decreasing out of wedlock children, etc. They were beginning to enjoy the fruits their preceding generations labored for. The Great Society is what destroyed the Black Family, communities, ownership etc. After the great society and the loss of MLK, race hustlers and demagogues came to the for.e.. they gained control of cites like Baltimore, Detroit and so many others. Whole communities have been destroyed. 'Racist America' didn't do it, I'm not even sure 'Racist America' exists.

Did you get your talking points from Stormfront?

You do realize there is a difference between racist americans and a racist America dont you?? Yes there are racists of all colors in our country but over all i think they are a rare phenomenon. But to say we a racist country... nonsense!

You are living in a bubble of privilege if you can't see the systemic racism that exists. Also, you don't have to burn a cross on someone's lawn to harbor implicit bias, which is insidious and every bit as damaging as explicit bias.

Blah blah blah this is one tired trope already, and you claim I live in a bubble? Did you read on this comment thread how immigrants from Africa and don't see or experience any systemic racism. You are taking me off topic but your mindset is what pushed many to vote for Trump. They are tired of these lies.

Although I do admit confusion. Whitman neighborhoods are loaded with BLM, hate has no home here and other political signage, more than anywhere else I drive through but posters here declare Whitman parents racist? Its crazy. So what do i know??

So we made you do it? Hahahahaha! Okay. Whatever you have to tell yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

I think PP is just being polite. What you don't understand is why certain people are trying to logic that slavery and segregation before, has resulted in "violence, hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness" in current day America. Many people do not understand this. It is quite the chip on one's shoulder.

I'm Jewish. Back in college I recall being part of some late night philosophical conversation between a few Blacks, Israelis and American Jews. We were all making the case for how slighted we were in the world but needed to make the best of it now. Unfortunately, in many circles, I do not think citizenship or patriotism will ever have more allegiance over race.

I have to disagree. Before LBJ's Great Society, Black Americans where enjoying increasing employment, business ownership, home ownership, decreasing crime, decreasing out of wedlock children, etc. They were beginning to enjoy the fruits their preceding generations labored for. The Great Society is what destroyed the Black Family, communities, ownership etc. After the great society and the loss of MLK, race hustlers and demagogues came to the for.e.. they gained control of cites like Baltimore, Detroit and so many others. Whole communities have been destroyed. 'Racist America' didn't do it, I'm not even sure 'Racist America' exists.

Did you get your talking points from Stormfront?

You do realize there is a difference between racist americans and a racist America dont you?? Yes there are racists of all colors in our country but over all i think they are a rare phenomenon. But to say we a racist country... nonsense!

You are living in a bubble of privilege if you can't see the systemic racism that exists. Also, you don't have to burn a cross on someone's lawn to harbor implicit bias, which is insidious and every bit as damaging as explicit bias.

DP here - I'm not either of the PPs

Everyone, EVERYONE has implicit bias. You're not going to get rid of that no matter how long you march.

And, burning a cross is equivalent to using the N word? Not quite.

I'm a minority, and I agree with the PP. I do think there are racists (of every race, not just White racists), but I also think that we are not a racist country.

Did I say that? Implicit bias is something we have to recognize and then struggle against rather than ignoring/denying when it influences our policy making, our personal decisions and actions. Why are you talking about marching? Are you suggesting that peaceful protest is not an effective means of creating change within a democracy? I beg to differ.

Using the "N" word is an example of explicit bias, though it's not exactly equivalent to burning a cross. Not sure how you got that from what I wrote.

And yes, we are a racist country, meaning it's baked into the system. That doesn't mean that every American is a racist. Do you understand the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

I think PP is just being polite. What you don't understand is why certain people are trying to logic that slavery and segregation before, has resulted in "violence, hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness" in current day America. Many people do not understand this. It is quite the chip on one's shoulder.

I'm Jewish. Back in college I recall being part of some late night philosophical conversation between a few Blacks, Israelis and American Jews. We were all making the case for how slighted we were in the world but needed to make the best of it now. Unfortunately, in many circles, I do not think citizenship or patriotism will ever have more allegiance over race.

I have to disagree. Before LBJ's Great Society, Black Americans where enjoying increasing employment, business ownership, home ownership, decreasing crime, decreasing out of wedlock children, etc. They were beginning to enjoy the fruits their preceding generations labored for. The Great Society is what destroyed the Black Family, communities, ownership etc. After the great society and the loss of MLK, race hustlers and demagogues came to the for.e.. they gained control of cites like Baltimore, Detroit and so many others. Whole communities have been destroyed. 'Racist America' didn't do it, I'm not even sure 'Racist America' exists.

Did you get your talking points from Stormfront?

You do realize there is a difference between racist americans and a racist America dont you?? Yes there are racists of all colors in our country but over all i think they are a rare phenomenon. But to say we a racist country... nonsense!

You are living in a bubble of privilege if you can't see the systemic racism that exists. Also, you don't have to burn a cross on someone's lawn to harbor implicit bias, which is insidious and every bit as damaging as explicit bias.

DP here - I'm not either of the PPs

Everyone, EVERYONE has implicit bias. You're not going to get rid of that no matter how long you march.

And, burning a cross is equivalent to using the N word? Not quite.

I'm a minority, and I agree with the PP. I do think there are racists (of every race, not just White racists), but I also think that we are not a racist country.

Did I say that? Implicit bias is something we have to recognize and then struggle against rather than ignoring/denying when it influences our policy making, our personal decisions and actions. Why are you talking about marching? Are you suggesting that peaceful protest is not an effective means of creating change within a democracy? I beg to differ.

Using the "N" word is an example of explicit bias, though it's not exactly equivalent to burning a cross. Not sure how you got that from what I wrote.

And yes, we are a racist country, meaning it's baked into the system. That doesn't mean that every American is a racist. Do you understand the difference?

Implicit bias
Explicit bias
Baked into the system

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a British Caribbean family we have an incredibly difficult time understanding African American culture. Our African and other Caribbean friends don't get it either. It is beyond hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness, but we do not understand any of it.
Our public school experience has been fine, but the kids' friend base is international.

I think PP is just being polite. What you don't understand is why certain people are trying to logic that slavery and segregation before, has resulted in "violence, hip hop, rap, crime rates, children out of wedlock, sports stars, impoliteness" in current day America. Many people do not understand this. It is quite the chip on one's shoulder.

I'm Jewish. Back in college I recall being part of some late night philosophical conversation between a few Blacks, Israelis and American Jews. We were all making the case for how slighted we were in the world but needed to make the best of it now. Unfortunately, in many circles, I do not think citizenship or patriotism will ever have more allegiance over race.

I have to disagree. Before LBJ's Great Society, Black Americans where enjoying increasing employment, business ownership, home ownership, decreasing crime, decreasing out of wedlock children, etc. They were beginning to enjoy the fruits their preceding generations labored for. The Great Society is what destroyed the Black Family, communities, ownership etc. After the great society and the loss of MLK, race hustlers and demagogues came to the for.e.. they gained control of cites like Baltimore, Detroit and so many others. Whole communities have been destroyed. 'Racist America' didn't do it, I'm not even sure 'Racist America' exists.

Are you saying that handouts from The Great Society brought everything down, plus a handful of black gangster demagogues or Cry Wolf race hustlers?