Donald Trump Questions Whether Arizona Senator John McCain Should Be Considered a War Hero

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What he did in that POW camp was undeniably heroic.

I deny it. He did nothing more than his duty - what he was supposed to do. Doing tough duty is still your duty.

Gee in a world where every fireman who got smoke inhalation at WTC is declared a hero, and where half the time we refer to the actual victims as heroes, your standard seems unusually draconian.

In general I would say that someone shot down, wounded, tortured, imprisoned, and permanently disabled is a hero.

[Anonymous]

I can't wait for the August 6 debate. It's gonna be like a troop of primates hurling their feces at one another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What he did in that POW camp was undeniably heroic.

I deny it. He did nothing more than his duty - what he was supposed to do. Doing tough duty is still your duty.

Gee in a world where every fireman who got smoke inhalation at WTC is declared a hero, and where half the time we refer to the actual victims as heroes, your standard seems unusually draconian.

In general I would say that someone shot down, wounded, tortured, imprisoned, and permanently disabled is a hero.

No. Enduring something that sucks doesn't make you a hero. It required no extraordinary degree of heroism for him to experience those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What he did in that POW camp was undeniably heroic.

I deny it. He did nothing more than his duty - what he was supposed to do. Doing tough duty is still your duty.

Gee in a world where every fireman who got smoke inhalation at WTC is declared a hero, and where half the time we refer to the actual victims as heroes, your standard seems unusually draconian.

In general I would say that someone shot down, wounded, tortured, imprisoned, and permanently disabled is a hero.

No. Enduring something that sucks doesn't make you a hero. It required no extraordinary degree of heroism for him to experience those things.

NP. Whatever your views on what makes one a hero, the fact that you glibly deem what McCain experienced "something that sucks" is stunning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What he did in that POW camp was undeniably heroic.

I deny it. He did nothing more than his duty - what he was supposed to do. Doing tough duty is still your duty.

Gee in a world where every fireman who got smoke inhalation at WTC is declared a hero, and where half the time we refer to the actual victims as heroes, your standard seems unusually draconian.

In general I would say that someone shot down, wounded, tortured, imprisoned, and permanently disabled is a hero.

There's a massive difference between mccain and WTC first responders.

WTC first responders were acting justly, so even if they were just 'doing their jobs' as some glibly put it - they are heroes.

McCain willingly participated and supported an unjust war. That is not a hero. That is called being a coward.

In fact, with the juice he had as an admiral's son, imagine how much good he could've done and lives he could've saved by coming out against the war early?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Whatever your views on what makes one a hero, the fact that you glibly deem what McCain experienced "something that sucks" is stunning.

(shrug) phrase it however you want, I don't give a shit.

The military recognizes that heroism means going above and beyond the call of duty. McCain did not do that. He did his duty. That is all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a massive difference between mccain and WTC first responders.

WTC first responders were acting justly, so even if they were just 'doing their jobs' as some glibly put it - they are heroes.

McCain willingly participated and supported an unjust war. That is not a hero. That is called being a coward.

In fact, with the juice he had as an admiral's son, imagine how much good he could've done and lives he could've saved by coming out against the war early?

^ Moron begins with false premise and reaches false conclusion. No surprise there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Whatever your views on what makes one a hero, the fact that you glibly deem what McCain experienced "something that sucks" is stunning.

(shrug) phrase it however you want, I don't give a shit.

The military recognizes that heroism means going above and beyond the call of duty. McCain did not do that. He did his duty. That is all.

Isn't heroism enduring extraordinary danger or pain to help others (not to just help yourself)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Whatever your views on what makes one a hero, the fact that you glibly deem what McCain experienced "something that sucks" is stunning.

(shrug) phrase it however you want, I don't give a shit.

The military recognizes that heroism means going above and beyond the call of duty. McCain did not do that. He did his duty. That is all.

Isn't heroism enduring extraordinary danger or pain to help others (not to just help yourself)?

Don't waste your time, PP. Now we've moved torture and captivity from "something that sucks" to something that is worthy of a shrug. (Which McCain can't do, by the way...but whatevs.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Whatever your views on what makes one a hero, the fact that you glibly deem what McCain experienced "something that sucks" is stunning.

(shrug) phrase it however you want, I don't give a shit.

The military recognizes that heroism means going above and beyond the call of duty. McCain did not do that. He did his duty. That is all.

Isn't heroism enduring extraordinary danger or pain to help others (not to just help yourself)?

Don't waste your time, PP. Now we've moved torture and captivity from "something that sucks" to something that is worthy of a shrug. (Which McCain can't do, by the way...but whatevs.)

If having the bravery to go into combat, to fly into energy fire, withstanding torture and years of captivity by the enemy and still having the strength and loyalty to stand up for and not leave fellow soldiers behind is "not even worthy of a shrug" then in comparison, what does it make the PP who expounded on that opinion? Considering the PP probably never served, much less in combat, much less directly faced the enemy, much less ever had to deal with captivity and torture, much less had the strength to stand up for fellow soldiers? In my opinion, it makes the PP even lower than a dog turd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a massive difference between mccain and WTC first responders.

WTC first responders were acting justly, so even if they were just 'doing their jobs' as some glibly put it - they are heroes.

McCain willingly participated and supported an unjust war. That is not a hero. That is called being a coward.

In fact, with the juice he had as an admiral's son, imagine how much good he could've done and lives he could've saved by coming out against the war early?

^ Moron begins with false premise and reaches false conclusion. No surprise there.

where's the false premise? That heroes can be heroes when acting unjust?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
where's the false premise? That heroes can be heroes when acting unjust?

Two false premises:
1. Vietnam was an unjust war.
2. Anyone participating in an unjust war is a coward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't waste your time, PP. Now we've moved torture and captivity from "something that sucks" to something that is worthy of a shrug. (Which McCain can't do, by the way...but whatevs.)

I am shrugging at you being stunned at my glibness, idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If having the bravery to go into combat, to fly into energy fire, withstanding torture and years of captivity by the enemy and still having the strength and loyalty to stand up for and not leave fellow soldiers behind is "not even worthy of a shrug"

(shrug) I did not say that was true. Read for comprehension, dolt.

Everyone who goes into combat is not a hero.
Everyone who gets shot down is not a hero.
Everyone who is captured is not a hero.
Everyone who is tortured is not a hero.

If you knew anything about the military, you would know this, dolt.

Anonymous wrote: then in comparison, what does it make the PP who expounded on that opinion? Considering the PP probably never served, much less in combat, much less directly faced the enemy, much less ever had to deal with captivity and torture, much less had the strength to stand up for fellow soldiers? In my opinion, it makes the PP even lower than a dog turd.

Your idiotic ad hominem argument here shows that you have a dog turd for a brain.

[Anonymous]

And the Vietnam War was just because . . . Please don't cite the Gulf of Tonkin nonsense. Neither the VC nor NVA were a threat to the U.S. or its strategic interests. More madness.