International Baccalaureate at Eastern?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm VERY aware of the neighbors you've listed. Please don't assume that you know me.

White people jogging and walking their dogs throughout the neighborhoods has done nothing to change the city. Nearly every school, business etc that I walk into remains majority black. So does the metro....Whites remain sprinkles on a chocolate city ice cream cone.

So the notion that a huge infiltration of whites will take over this city is hilarious.

Historically, Manhattan has always been Manhattan; the Bronx, Brooklyn.... There's been no great white take over over any major (black) city. Ever.

And who are all these wealthy white parents just waiting to deluge DC schools with their kids? Middle class & rich blacks aren't willing to do that!!! Notice how most DC educators send their children off to school in MD & VA before driving to work in the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 500-student high school is ridiculous.

Not having a vision for the future is more ridiculous.

My vision would be to close these under enrolled schools, not renovate them. It is much more cost effective to have larger high schools. A 1500 student high school could carry the costs of an IB program, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A 500-student high school is ridiculous.

Not having a vision for the future is more ridiculous.

My vision would be to close these under enrolled schools, not renovate them. It is much more cost effective to have larger high schools. A 1500 student high school could carry the costs of an IB program, for example.

Can you flesh that out more? Which high schools would you close and where would those kids go to HS?

What will it look like with the student growth (total - in not talking about any specific race) that's making its way up through elementary school now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm VERY aware of the neighbors you've listed. Please don't assume that you know me.

White people jogging and walking their dogs throughout the neighborhoods has done nothing to change the city. Nearly every school, business etc that I walk into remains majority black. So does the metro....Whites remain sprinkles on a chocolate city ice cream cone.

So the notion that a huge infiltration of whites will take over this city is hilarious.

Historically, Manhattan has always been Manhattan; the Bronx, Brooklyn.... There's been no great white take over over any major (black) city. Ever.

And who are all these wealthy white parents just waiting to deluge DC schools with their kids? Middle class & rich blacks aren't willing to do that!!! Notice how most DC educators send their children off to school in MD & VA before driving to work in the city.

I'm Hispanic and my husband is Asian. Would our kids be sprinkles too, or maybe some sort of topping on the side?

Curious, when you see white people jogging, do you understand that they live in the neighborhood? They're not like running to and from their homes.

Demographics are changing in DC for sure. But I think everyone understands the incredible cultural impact blacks have on DC. No one is dismissing that (I hope!). I think it's also important that gentrifiers are recognized for their contribution to dc as well.

Both sides have a lot in common as we want the best for out kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm VERY aware of the neighbors you've listed. Please don't assume that you know me.

White people jogging and walking their dogs throughout the neighborhoods has done nothing to change the city. Nearly every school, business etc that I walk into remains majority black. So does the metro....Whites remain sprinkles on a chocolate city ice cream cone.

So the notion that a huge infiltration of whites will take over this city is hilarious.

Historically, Manhattan has always been Manhattan; the Bronx, Brooklyn.... There's been no great white take over over any major (black) city. Ever.

And who are all these wealthy white parents just waiting to deluge DC schools with their kids? Middle class & rich blacks aren't willing to do that!!! Notice how most DC educators send their children off to school in MD & VA before driving to work in the city.

I'm Hispanic and my husband is Asian. Would our kids be sprinkles too, or maybe some sort of topping on the side?

Curious, when you see white people jogging, do you understand that they live in the neighborhood? They're not like running to and from their homes.

Demographics are changing in DC for sure. But I think everyone understands the incredible cultural impact blacks have on DC. No one is dismissing that (I hope!). I think it's also important that gentrifiers are recognized for their contribution to dc as well.

Both sides have a lot in common as we want the best for out kids.

The flavor of the ICE CREAM is chocolate. So yes you and your friend are sprinkles. Red, white, yellow or blue, you're still just sprinkles on a much larger cone.

I do realize Whites live in those neighborhoods (before moving once the kids come, a better job beckons elsewhere, they've satiated their youthful wanderlust, etc). The point is: 1. That's not enough. 2. A white takeover will not happen. That's not how real life works.

Until every governing body in DC/an innercity is no longer 100% black, Whites stand no chance of a takeover. You simply lack the power with a black mayor, council, school board, governor and all their cronies. When I see even just a few diverse faces on governing boards in DC, only then will I believe gentrification little more than selling housing to people who may or may not be invested in the area.

(Wonder if this takeover fantasy includes generations of dysfunctional thinking in the poor black communities being changed overnight. In one year? Two?)

[Anonymous]

Pp you are beyond rude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp you are beyond rude.

You are beyond sensitive.

[Anonymous]

Again...for the ill-informed you can have an IB cohort of 100+ and All or NONE will take the test for the diploma. Eastern's results are back and the valedictorian did extremely well and will enter her college as sophomore. The IB program prepares but the test certifies/validates your results for educational purposes by offering a diploma. I am pretty sure that Eastern is the ONLY high school to provide dual diplomas. Eastern is an accredited International Baccalaureate High School, plain and simple. The school is predominantly AA and the first cohort of IB students did extremely well. Again for all of the nay sayers...Eastern is a comprehensive high-school with programs. We are in the same category as Wilson both are comprehensive but we don't have a percentage of white students. Yet both schools are run at the helm by AA female principals that were chosen by an AA Chancellor who's is supervised by an AA female Mayor in a city that's getting whiter...laughing like sh*t. This education foolishness is such a game with the analogy being white spectators and AA players...the millenia version of the NBA (National Bullsh*t Academy) Going back to my hookah and chicken wings with mumbo sauce and await a response from Ted and Alice.

[Anonymous]

Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The flavor of the ICE CREAM is chocolate. So yes you and your friend are sprinkles. Red, white, yellow or blue, you're still just sprinkles on a much larger cone.

I do realize Whites live in those neighborhoods (before moving once the kids come, a better job beckons elsewhere, they've satiated their youthful wanderlust, etc). The point is: 1. That's not enough. 2. A white takeover will not happen. That's not how real life works.

Until every governing body in DC/an innercity is no longer 100% black, Whites stand no chance of a takeover. You simply lack the power with a black mayor, council, school board, governor and all their cronies. When I see even just a few diverse faces on governing boards in DC, only then will I believe gentrification little more than selling housing to people who may or may not be invested in the area.

(Wonder if this takeover fantasy includes generations of dysfunctional thinking in the poor black communities being changed overnight. In one year? Two?)

You need to lay off the drugs. Who is arguing that there is a white takeover of anything?
What governing body in DC doesn't have white faces? The DC council? Why does that even matter to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp you are beyond rude.

I actually find PP comical and idiotic. Beyond rude, PP is hopeless...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The flavor of the ICE CREAM is chocolate. So yes you and your friend are sprinkles. Red, white, yellow or blue, you're still just sprinkles on a much larger cone.

I do realize Whites live in those neighborhoods (before moving once the kids come, a better job beckons elsewhere, they've satiated their youthful wanderlust, etc). The point is: 1. That's not enough. 2. A white takeover will not happen. That's not how real life works.

Until every governing body in DC/an innercity is no longer 100% black, Whites stand no chance of a takeover. You simply lack the power with a black mayor, council, school board, governor and all their cronies. When I see even just a few diverse faces on governing boards in DC, only then will I believe gentrification little more than selling housing to people who may or may not be invested in the area.

(Wonder if this takeover fantasy includes generations of dysfunctional thinking in the poor black communities being changed overnight. In one year? Two?)

You need to lay off the drugs. Who is arguing that there is a white takeover of anything?
What governing body in DC doesn't have white faces? The DC council? Why does that even matter to you?

By the way, pp, we (the non-AA now-majority of the city) are working on making our governing bodies better reflect the city we are raising our families in. More choices in elections are better for everyone. The political machine is strong in DC, but a lot weaker than it was 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

Sort of. I work in college admissions so I know that, increasingly, competitive colleges are disinclined to give college credit for HS work. As the years roll by, college administrators and faculty are more and more inclined to view high school work and college work as being too different to offer college credit for the former. Thus, AP test scores of 4-5, and IB test scores of 6-7, generally let a student place out of introductory classes at a college and that's about it. These days, the most competitive US colleges (Ivies, Stanford, Duke, Little Ivies etc.) rarely give any credit for IB work. I was granted a full year of college credit for my IB Diploma work but don't expert my children to get any. IB Diploma work confers a great education, but parents and students should still expect to pay for four years of college afterwards.

[Anonymous]

Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

Sort of. I work in college admissions so I know that, increasingly, competitive colleges are disinclined to give college credit for HS work. As the years roll by, college administrators and faculty are more and more inclined to view high school work and college work as being too different to offer college credit for the former. Thus, AP test scores of 4-5, and IB test scores of 6-7, generally let a student place out of introductory classes at a college and that's about it. These days, the most competitive US colleges (Ivies, Stanford, Duke, Little Ivies etc.) rarely give any credit for IB work. I was granted a full year of college credit for my IB Diploma work but don't expert my children to get any. IB Diploma work confers a great education, but parents and students should still expect to pay for four years of college afterwards.

Call me cYnical, but colleges and Universities want every last penny they can get their hands on. They have no incentive to give a pass on credit hours.