International Baccalaureate at Eastern?

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Anonymous wrote:Good Morning Folks! My name is Amy Boccardi, and I am the IB Coordinator at Eastern SHS. I have been teaching in DCPS for 18 years (where does the time go?) and I am tremendously proud of the work I have been a part of throughout my tenure as an educator in our schools. Please feel free to contact me off-line if you are interested in the IB program at Eastern. Thanks.

Hi Amy,
So glad you are interested in sharing information with us.

How much does it cost DCPS to run the IB program at Eastern (including salaries, program fees, etc)? What is the cost-per-student for every successful IB diploma? How many students graduate with the IB diploma each year?

Greetings again,

Any information regarding cost would come from central office. As I mentioned, you are welcome to contact me off line if you are interested in the program.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

The number of credits you earn depends on the institution you attend. It is not the same at every university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

+1. Exactly, irrelevant. I don't hear gentrifiers with children talking about using Eastern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

The number of credits you earn depends on the institution you attend. It is not the same at every university.

At the nation's best universities, the number of credits tends to be zero, unless a student transfers from an AB or BA-granting institution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

The number of credits you earn depends on the institution you attend. It is not the same at every university.

At the nation's best universities, the number of credits tends to be zero, unless a student transfers from an AB or BA-granting institution.

True for AP and IB for top tier schools. They don't give too many credits b/c they don't have to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

The number of credits you earn depends on the institution you attend. It is not the same at every university.

At the nation's best universities, the number of credits tends to be zero, unless a student transfers from an AB or BA-granting institution.

Not true. Sorry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I don't like trashing my own neighborhood school, but just in case anyone out there actually thinks anything PP is saying is true, email the actual IB contact at Eastern above.

Fwiw, if the valedictorian had done all that well in IB she would have graduated with the max of 30 credits (2 years not one), just like everyone did at my IB High school.

And as mentioned above, you don't get an IB diploma from your high school, you get an IB diploma from the IB organization. So even if Eastern gives the kids a special "IB Diploma" it's not actually an IB diploma.

The number of credits you earn depends on the institution you attend. It is not the same at every university.

At the nation's best universities, the number of credits tends to be zero, unless a student transfers from an AB or BA-granting institution.

Not true. Sorry

Sorry I was thinking of my own experience. I got only 6s and 7s on my IB exams which would explain why I got so much credit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

+1. Exactly, irrelevant. I don't hear gentrifiers with children talking about using Eastern.

I've lived in 3 innercities with gentrification--2 for 5 years each, 1 for 2 years and I spent a year in another one working on a grad degree.

The public schools in all of those areas remained predominately minority. In one city there was a college prep high school that kids tested into that all the gentrifiers talked about and couldn't wait for. The school came with some real bragging privileges.

So, the point about gentrifiers with children not using Eastern (or any DCPS) is not the huge deal you think it is. That world and schools will continue to turn without the children of gentrifiers. Really. It will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

+1. Exactly, irrelevant. I don't hear gentrifiers with children talking about using Eastern.

Is it possible that you're under the mistaken impression that "gentrifiers" must be white to be called that. The theories about gentrification certainly wouldn't support that assumption.
Not to mention that what you "hear" may be very selective and keenly dependent on the Twitter feeds you follow, the Facebook friends you have, and who you go out for drinks with. And I do hope you're not assuming that only DCUM can be considered "heard", although I'm sure Jeff would be delighted to think that

[Anonymous]

It is to my understanding that the Eastern validictorian and possible others recieved a score of 26 to 28; which I believe entitled them to enter their college/university as an incoming sophomore. Furthermore, the honor students are being mentor by former Eastern graduates who are Bill Gates winners and are graduates of Georgetown, Yale, John Hopkins and Harvard respectively. I do believe the Harvard University Black Student Union have established some type of networking program with the class of 2016. i guess familiarity brings comfort in some form, reaching back when others attack.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp you are beyond rude.

I actually find PP comical and idiotic. Beyond rude, PP is hopeless...

It is unusual on DCUM to find a poster who is so easy to single out as the same person posting over and over. Her writing is *that bad*.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

+1. Exactly, irrelevant. I don't hear gentrifiers with children talking about using Eastern.

I've lived in 3 innercities with gentrification--2 for 5 years each, 1 for 2 years and I spent a year in another one working on a grad degree.

The public schools in all of those areas remained predominately minority. In one city there was a college prep high school that kids tested into that all the gentrifiers talked about and couldn't wait for. The school came with some real bragging privileges.

So, the point about gentrifiers with children not using Eastern (or any DCPS) is not the huge deal you think it is. That world and schools will continue to turn without the children of gentrifiers. Really. It will.

The world will continue to turn and yet your schools will continue to produce students who aren't prepared to function as productive members of society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Is it possible that you're under the mistaken impression that "gentrifiers" must be white to be called that. The theories about gentrification certainly wouldn't support that assumption.
Not to mention that what you "hear" may be very selective and keenly dependent on the Twitter feeds you follow, the Facebook friends you have, and who you go out for drinks with. And I do hope you're not assuming that only DCUM can be considered "heard", although I'm sure Jeff would be delighted to think that

I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Jeff would be delighted for people to have a broader universe than just DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm

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Anonymous wrote:

That's OPINION.

The fact is that major innercities like DC have not become predominatly white, despite an influx of gentrifiers for decades. There are middle class/wealthy, highly-educated Whites and minorities in all of those areas. But that hasn't changed demographics one bit.

DC, quite frankly, is as much of a hell hole as any other innercity. In some ways its worse. DC is definitely not on the path to Manhattan & the other places you've mentioned. You've gotta be trolling me.

Here's a personal invitation to visit DC, since it appears to be many years since you've been here. Demographics are definitely changing, and more than a bit. I don't know about projections of the city becoming majority white city-wide or why that matters to you, but certainly gentrifying neighborhoods have significantly changing demographics.
See: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle, Mt. Vernon Square, Capitol Hill, Eastern Market, SW Waterfront, Navy Yard / Ballpark, Columbia Heights, Petworth, Shaw, even Brightwood (see WP article)... could go on and on about neighborhoods with changing demographics.

I'm VERY aware of the neighbors you've listed. Please don't assume that you know me.

White people jogging and walking their dogs throughout the neighborhoods has done nothing to change the city. Nearly every school, business etc that I walk into remains majority black. So does the metro....Whites remain sprinkles on a chocolate city ice cream cone.

So the notion that a huge infiltration of whites will take over this city is hilarious.

Historically, Manhattan has always been Manhattan; the Bronx, Brooklyn.... There's been no great white take over over any major (black) city. Ever.

And who are all these wealthy white parents just waiting to deluge DC schools with their kids? Middle class & rich blacks aren't willing to do that!!! Notice how most DC educators send their children off to school in MD & VA before driving to work in the city.

I'm Hispanic and my husband is Asian. Would our kids be sprinkles too, or maybe some sort of topping on the side?

Curious, when you see white people jogging, do you understand that they live in the neighborhood? They're not like running to and from their homes.

Demographics are changing in DC for sure. But I think everyone understands the incredible cultural impact blacks have on DC. No one is dismissing that (I hope!). I think it's also important that gentrifiers are recognized for their contribution to dc as well.

Both sides have a lot in common as we want the best for out kids.

The flavor of the ICE CREAM is chocolate. So yes you and your friend are sprinkles. Red, white, yellow or blue, you're still just sprinkles on a much larger cone.

I do realize Whites live in those neighborhoods (before moving once the kids come, a better job beckons elsewhere, they've satiated their youthful wanderlust, etc). The point is: 1. That's not enough. 2. A white takeover will not happen. That's not how real life works.

Until every governing body in DC/an innercity is no longer 100% black, Whites stand no chance of a takeover. You simply lack the power with a black mayor, council, school board, governor and all their cronies. When I see even just a few diverse faces on governing boards in DC, only then will I believe gentrification little more than selling housing to people who may or may not be invested in the area.

(Wonder if this takeover fantasy includes generations of dysfunctional thinking in the poor black communities being changed overnight. In one year? Two?)

Sorry, but DC has ALWAYS been owned by developers and the only color in play is GREEN. The mayor, chancellor, council, etc. are just props

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not that this debate is getting us anywhere, but the AA population of DC has been decreasing by about one percent each year, according to census numbers and other experts, the AA population of DC dropped below 50 percent in 2011 and, based on other data, whites comprised about 43 percent of the population as of 2013. A plurality of whites, Asians and Hispanics now outnumber AA, just as it was only 50 years ago. The ers of "Chocolate City" is gone and DC looking more and more like a frappiccino. One need look no further than the DC Council. And more change is coming. As just one example, development is quickly transforming New York Avenue between North Capitol and South Dakota Avenues, and will only be hastened by Union Market. Mom's Organic Market isn't really aimed at the Ivy City demographic. And just wait for the uproar when the Maine Avenue seafood vendors are displaced and moved under the freeway. Meanwhile, until there is a comprehensive plan for Ward 6 addressing middle schools and beyond, Eastern will remain irrelevant to most of Capitol Hill.

+1. Exactly, irrelevant. I don't hear gentrifiers with children talking about using Eastern.

I've lived in 3 innercities with gentrification--2 for 5 years each, 1 for 2 years and I spent a year in another one working on a grad degree.

The public schools in all of those areas remained predominately minority. In one city there was a college prep high school that kids tested into that all the gentrifiers talked about and couldn't wait for. The school came with some real bragging privileges.

So, the point about gentrifiers with children not using Eastern (or any DCPS) is not the huge deal you think it is. That world and schools will continue to turn without the children of gentrifiers. Really. It will.

The world will continue to turn and yet your schools will continue to produce students who aren't prepared to function as productive members of society.

Yup! Welcome to the real world of urban education.

Gentrifiers, put your kids in non-public schools where they will be properly educated. Or move to the burbs when they're school-age.

City kids will go to the public schools where many will not be prepared to function as productive members of society and others will thrive and even go off to Ivies.

Yup! That sounds about right.

Life's not perfect. But it is real.