AAP admission stats 2015

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Anonymous wrote:The DRA at the beginning of 2nd Grade was what it should be in 3rd grade. Also being instructed above grade level in both math and reading. Her progress report also has mostly 4s and a few 3s. Except in the first Q report where the teacher gave all 3s. In the parent teacher conf in the 1Q i remember the teacher commented that my child does not ask any questions in the class and she wants the child to speak up. Now i don't know if that would have affected GBRS.

If you get 3s in areas other than BS stuff like PE and Health, should you really be in AAP?

apparently YES! My kid had a number of 2's in first and second grade. Had 149 NNAT and 140 composite CogAt. His AAP teacher (3rd grade) thinks he is doing great (is also one of the youngest in his class -- disorganized, but tends to get 4's on almost all tests and top of the class on wordmasters challenge 2 out of 3 times this year). If his 1st and 2nd grade teachers had to make the decision, they would never have placed him in AAP. We almost didn't. Turns out it was a good fit.

Well, if I'm running the AAP program with the 149 and 140 I wouldn't care about his report cards (unless he's shivving his classmates) and put him in AAP.

If I had a smart kid getting 2s then I would be questioning the teachers first.

How do you know he is top of the class in the Wordmasters challenge? For example, I know what my own child's scores were. I know that my own child did amazingly well on the test. I know that my own child received a certificate from the school for the challenges. I have no idea if she was at the top of the class, though. Perhaps other kids tied with her. How on earth would you know? You are guessing.

Not guessing. When the top score in the class is announced by the teacher (without the teacher mentioning the child's name) and the teacher says "we had one student get X score" === my kid who is given his score, is smart enough to figure out that if his score IS X, then he was the top score. He knows how many they had in their class who got X-1, X-2, X-3, X-4... X-10. He tells me the distribution (i.e. half scored below 10, etc.) He is very attuned to the scoring on all tests -- but not linking it to specific kids. Not guessing on this at all.

No guessing here. In my child's classroom, the teacher says the highest score and who got that highest score.

Our school gets pizza for the top scorers, so it's very obvious who got the highest score.

your school gets pizza for the top scorers? that's disgusting.

You have a very warped sense of what is "disgusting." Child porn is "disgusting." Giving pizza to kids who score highest (which doesn't happen in my kid's school), but that is not disgusting. It's called "motivating students." I don't see a problem with it. Are you one of those parents who rallies against sports tournaments or spelling bees b/c there is a clear "winner"?

AAP is NOT a competition...sorry. It's supposed to be a way to give gifted kids the enrichment they need. No congratulations are in order. Motivate the kids??? to do what??? you don't study for these tests they just measure what learning environment fits your kid best. You don't know me so please don't jump to personal attacks. And, yes, I think it's disgusting.

Just ignore this troll, once a hater, always a hater. They don't want others to be happy.

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Anonymous wrote:The DRA at the beginning of 2nd Grade was what it should be in 3rd grade. Also being instructed above grade level in both math and reading. Her progress report also has mostly 4s and a few 3s. Except in the first Q report where the teacher gave all 3s. In the parent teacher conf in the 1Q i remember the teacher commented that my child does not ask any questions in the class and she wants the child to speak up. Now i don't know if that would have affected GBRS.

If you get 3s in areas other than BS stuff like PE and Health, should you really be in AAP?

apparently YES! My kid had a number of 2's in first and second grade. Had 149 NNAT and 140 composite CogAt. His AAP teacher (3rd grade) thinks he is doing great (is also one of the youngest in his class -- disorganized, but tends to get 4's on almost all tests and top of the class on wordmasters challenge 2 out of 3 times this year). If his 1st and 2nd grade teachers had to make the decision, they would never have placed him in AAP. We almost didn't. Turns out it was a good fit.

Well, if I'm running the AAP program with the 149 and 140 I wouldn't care about his report cards (unless he's shivving his classmates) and put him in AAP.

If I had a smart kid getting 2s then I would be questioning the teachers first.

How do you know he is top of the class in the Wordmasters challenge? For example, I know what my own child's scores were. I know that my own child did amazingly well on the test. I know that my own child received a certificate from the school for the challenges. I have no idea if she was at the top of the class, though. Perhaps other kids tied with her. How on earth would you know? You are guessing.

Not guessing. When the top score in the class is announced by the teacher (without the teacher mentioning the child's name) and the teacher says "we had one student get X score" === my kid who is given his score, is smart enough to figure out that if his score IS X, then he was the top score. He knows how many they had in their class who got X-1, X-2, X-3, X-4... X-10. He tells me the distribution (i.e. half scored below 10, etc.) He is very attuned to the scoring on all tests -- but not linking it to specific kids. Not guessing on this at all.

No guessing here. In my child's classroom, the teacher says the highest score and who got that highest score.

Our school gets pizza for the top scorers, so it's very obvious who got the highest score.

your school gets pizza for the top scorers? that's disgusting.

You have a very warped sense of what is "disgusting." Child porn is "disgusting." Giving pizza to kids who score highest (which doesn't happen in my kid's school), but that is not disgusting. It's called "motivating students." I don't see a problem with it. Are you one of those parents who rallies against sports tournaments or spelling bees b/c there is a clear "winner"?

AAP is NOT a competition...sorry. It's supposed to be a way to give gifted kids the enrichment they need. No congratulations are in order. Motivate the kids??? to do what??? you don't study for these tests they just measure what learning environment fits your kid best. You don't know me so please don't jump to personal attacks. And, yes, I think it's disgusting.

Just ignore this troll, once a hater, always a hater. They don't want others to be happy.

NP here. I agree completely with PP - the pizza reward is disgusting, no matter what the test is. I can see giving an award or certificate of recognition at the end of the year (or 6th grade graduation, if this is 6th grade) for the top Wordmasters scorer. But it seems way over-the-top and obnoxious to single the winner out with a pizza lunch during the school year. They don't even do that for the Geography Bee winner at our school (though they do get a medal at the end of the year).

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them a troll, or a hater. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28

In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28

In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.

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I wish the selection process was more transparent and predictable. Our DC was added to the pool, had similar #s, but was not selected:

NNAT: 134
CogAT: 122
GBRS: 12

Just took WISC-IV and will be appealing per recommendation from the psychologist who conducted the test.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
CogAT: 120 Verbal, 120 Quant, 125 NonVerbal
GBRS: 13
DRA Level: 28

In pool, didn't prep. GBRS commentary focused on DC's character, creativity, leadership and facilitation skills, behavior during recess, artistic work, ability to learn concepts quickly, and advanced reading interests/level.

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I wish the selection process was more transparent and predictable. Our DC was added to the pool, had similar #s, but was not selected:

NNAT: 134
CogAT: 122
GBRS: 12

Just took WISC-IV and will be appealing per recommendation from the psychologist who conducted the test.

My child had similar scores and was not accepted either. Do you mind sharing the Wisc result?

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I think a WISC score of 130 is solid for appeal.

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Anonymous wrote:The DRA at the beginning of 2nd Grade was what it should be in 3rd grade. Also being instructed above grade level in both math and reading. Her progress report also has mostly 4s and a few 3s. Except in the first Q report where the teacher gave all 3s. In the parent teacher conf in the 1Q i remember the teacher commented that my child does not ask any questions in the class and she wants the child to speak up. Now i don't know if that would have affected GBRS.

If you get 3s in areas other than BS stuff like PE and Health, should you really be in AAP?

apparently YES! My kid had a number of 2's in first and second grade. Had 149 NNAT and 140 composite CogAt. His AAP teacher (3rd grade) thinks he is doing great (is also one of the youngest in his class -- disorganized, but tends to get 4's on almost all tests and top of the class on wordmasters challenge 2 out of 3 times this year). If his 1st and 2nd grade teachers had to make the decision, they would never have placed him in AAP. We almost didn't. Turns out it was a good fit.

Well, if I'm running the AAP program with the 149 and 140 I wouldn't care about his report cards (unless he's shivving his classmates) and put him in AAP.

If I had a smart kid getting 2s then I would be questioning the teachers first.

How do you know he is top of the class in the Wordmasters challenge? For example, I know what my own child's scores were. I know that my own child did amazingly well on the test. I know that my own child received a certificate from the school for the challenges. I have no idea if she was at the top of the class, though. Perhaps other kids tied with her. How on earth would you know? You are guessing.

Not guessing. When the top score in the class is announced by the teacher (without the teacher mentioning the child's name) and the teacher says "we had one student get X score" === my kid who is given his score, is smart enough to figure out that if his score IS X, then he was the top score. He knows how many they had in their class who got X-1, X-2, X-3, X-4... X-10. He tells me the distribution (i.e. half scored below 10, etc.) He is very attuned to the scoring on all tests -- but not linking it to specific kids. Not guessing on this at all.

No guessing here. In my child's classroom, the teacher says the highest score and who got that highest score.

Our school gets pizza for the top scorers, so it's very obvious who got the highest score.

your school gets pizza for the top scorers? that's disgusting.

You have a very warped sense of what is "disgusting." Child porn is "disgusting." Giving pizza to kids who score highest (which doesn't happen in my kid's school), but that is not disgusting. It's called "motivating students." I don't see a problem with it. Are you one of those parents who rallies against sports tournaments or spelling bees b/c there is a clear "winner"?

AAP is NOT a competition...sorry. It's supposed to be a way to give gifted kids the enrichment they need. No congratulations are in order. Motivate the kids??? to do what??? you don't study for these tests they just measure what learning environment fits your kid best. You don't know me so please don't jump to personal attacks. And, yes, I think it's disgusting.

Just ignore this troll, once a hater, always a hater. They don't want others to be happy.

NP here. I agree completely with PP - the pizza reward is disgusting, no matter what the test is. I can see giving an award or certificate of recognition at the end of the year (or 6th grade graduation, if this is 6th grade) for the top Wordmasters scorer. But it seems way over-the-top and obnoxious to single the winner out with a pizza lunch during the school year. They don't even do that for the Geography Bee winner at our school (though they do get a medal at the end of the year).

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them a troll, or a hater. Grow up.

Why the hostility? Why are you so angry?

I find the bolded part to be almost impossible unless he is like Rain Man. My child has no idea who scores what on these tests except on occasion may know perhaps one or two others' scores because she saw them. There is no way she'd know more than one or two on any given Wordmasters or CML exam.

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To know so many score is not believable. My kid knows may be couple of scores of his friends or the highest scorer

[Anonymous]

Why is there a long conversation on the AAP Admission Stats thread about knowing the highest score inside classrooms? Please take it somewhere else. It's an interesting topic but I think people (me included) are more interested in knowing the stats of AAP eligibility based on various scores, and this tangent is kind of muddling it up. Thanks and apologies for being blunt!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your child has been admitted to AAP, please list the NNAT, Cogat, and GBRS.

NNAT: 131
Cogat: 131 (higher in math and non-verbal than verbal)
GBRS: No idea... but I am guessing it was good based on report card and teacher comments at child's annual teacher conference.

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NNAT: no idea...we were not in the VA state
Cogat: 127
GBRS:No idea
Not IN.

Wondering lack of NNAt score be a hindrance for appealing ?

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Those stats are exactly the same as my child. He got in without NNAT.

[Anonymous]

Then Teachers GBRS was the key factor !
13.25

[Anonymous]

NNAT 126
CogAT 132 (123, 138, 118)
GBRS 4

Not in.
We didn't prep.
We were shocked at the GBRS rating. We don't think our child is the best at everything but the data and the GBRS don't align at all.

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The 4 unfortunately is saying to all who review that the child should not be in the program. Is there something going on with the child that he/she doesn't demonstrate any of the behaviors on the GBRS in the classroom?