I'm not the PP but.... Ever go into a city and find all these cool little places then realize you need something simple and can't find it anywhere, because the area is filled with cool little places? And then getting across the city to the practical area takes freakin' forever because of traffic? Or you have to hop on a bus or other form of transportation to get there? That's why places like Office Depot are important. |
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To be fair, there was an office store (and probably still is - don't work there anymore) between Farragut North and Dupont Circle metro stops. I want to say it was on 18th?
I can't remember if it was Office Depot or Staples, but it was most definitely there because my co-worker and I would go there to buy supplies every month or so. |
Where do you expect sidewalks to lead? |
I think you have a rigid perception of what you were expecting to find. There was many ways to define everything. Del Ray is very nice and cute, and Mount Vernon is a cool street for a stroll. But the thing is, when it comes to daily needs of typical families, it's not about organic butchers or Cheesetique or acupuncture places or vintage boutiques. It's about grocery stores (Safeway, Trader Joe, Whole Foods), supermarkets (Target, Walmart), regular stores (Tysons), schools, parks, playgrounds, buses, metro, hardware stores, unsexy, unglamorous things you use on a daily freaking basis. Through that lens, I'd say PH checks all the boxes, plus an easy commute to DC. |
Some place like this, perhaps? http://www.visitdelray.com |
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Pimmit Hills has great potential- it has all the pieces (most important of which is location) and the one thing missing is a planning commission that has a minimum level of architectual authority. It is a prime example of what happens when there is no planning or oversight. |
Del Ray is very nice. Every place doesn't have to be like that. You can walk PH sidewalks to multiple parks, grocery stores, elementary school, coffee shops, etc. PH is not ornamental or cute. It is very practical, though. |
Short of completely rewriting permitting or zoning rules, what sort of oversight are you expecting to be feasible in a neighborhood that has exclusively SFHs and no HOA? |
| Del ray is great for the parents! |
Sounds like freedom to me. |
Really? The public schools don't appeal to many parents in Del Ray. |
That's why I enjoy living in Leesburg and recommend it and Frederick to people who could work from Tysons/Rockville on out (but not for DC unless you work off hours). Yes, I know if you work in one of those big marble buildings downtown or work in a corner office for some firm with 3-5 names in it, you won't be able to. And yes, I'd rather live where I live and have a 15-20 minute longer commute than live in some anonymous place in Sterling, Chantilly, etc. Good schools, safe, walkable downtowns, convenient to the every day things (as opposed to DC where there's no middlebrow department stores or places like Office Depot and the grocery stores either suck or are super high-end), and available to mere mortals. I've walked to get groceries before and I've walked to get coffee and/or a meal downtown. There's "cool little places" too but I really don't use them so much. |
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There are neighborhoods in Chantilly and Sterling that offer pretty much all you just said, 11:43.
I can walk to all 3 public schools, the library, several parks and a large shopping center with a Giant, a Starbucks, a few decent chain restaurants, some doctors offices (I go to a dentist there), a CVS, a Hair Cuttery, a total wine and an ABC store, as well as several other chain retailers. It isn't charming like Leesburg (I actually really like Leesburg and would live there if it made any sense for our commutes), but these things are easily walkable from our house. We are also no more than a 10 minute drive to just about any big box retailer you could possibly imagine, so I'm perfectly content with my Chantilly neighborhood and it's convenience to everything I really need. I very rarely have to drive more than a couple miles a day. |
When moving into a close in neighborhood, I would prefer much prefer an HOA to Crazy Larry who thinks he owns the neighborhood. HOA's may seem arbitrary, but neighbors threatened by change are far more arbitrary and well, crazy. |