Class of '26 Instagram College Decisions

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

I mean unhooked kids going to HYP.

To your general point, I'd say there is still a sizeable portion of B. seniors (maybe 30%?) who may not quite be going to where they (or their parents) were hoping for them to go. That of course speaks to their ambition, and the matriculations are no doubt very impressive!

Yes, no doubt that is true. I knew a very lovely (unhooked) girl from there who seemed very smart, 36 ACT, almost perfect grades and she was shut out of HYP. She ended up at Penn, while I believe her top choice was Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Genuinely shocked by how toxic some of these posts are. That said I've spoken with several very credible college admissions consultants and they all share a view that there aren't any true feeder schools anymore. There are Tier 1 schools with known standards of rigor that the TTs fall into along with top boarding schools, SHS's and also (critically) topic suburban publics. It sounds like coming from a top school is a check the box rubric like hitting a certain SAT score. After that it's all about the applicant's relative ranking in their class and how differentiated their story is relative to the rest of the qualified applicant pool.

Would be really curious to see if that's been everyone else's experience or if these consultants are more talking their book with their services being the easy way for an applicant to be differentiated.

Yeah… also to add HYP admissions committee definition of TT is very strict which may surprise a lot of the posters on this forum. I’ve only heard 4 schools being repeatedly mentioned in the nyc private k-12 ecosystem. Everything else will take a discount, meaning they will take class ranking with a grain of salt and think there is a lot of grade inflation generally. Don’t come for me I don’t make the rules.

Curious to know which 4 ?

Guessing here but: Dalton, Trinity, Brearley and Collegiate?

Actually not brearley because of the way they grade. And certainly not dalton. I think another poster mentioned, some privates schools recruit their class based on hook — especially for 9th grade. That’s why some schools look good for matriculation, but it has nothing to do with admissions based on academic excellence. It’s probably true that unless you rank top 10 at a real academic tier 1 private, you are better off at public.

How can this be true if Horace Mann sends ~50 kids to Ivies+Chicago? At what public, would the HM student #37 have better prospects?

Or did you mean for HYP specifically? And as far as I can tell there is zero grade inflation at HM (people think there is grade deflation…)

Yes I meant HYP specifically, and they do respect HM. In terms of college outcomes— if you are old school about it, there’s a very big difference between hyp vs Cornell/uchicago

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Genuinely shocked by how toxic some of these posts are. That said I've spoken with several very credible college admissions consultants and they all share a view that there aren't any true feeder schools anymore. There are Tier 1 schools with known standards of rigor that the TTs fall into along with top boarding schools, SHS's and also (critically) topic suburban publics. It sounds like coming from a top school is a check the box rubric like hitting a certain SAT score. After that it's all about the applicant's relative ranking in their class and how differentiated their story is relative to the rest of the qualified applicant pool.

Would be really curious to see if that's been everyone else's experience or if these consultants are more talking their book with their services being the easy way for an applicant to be differentiated.

Yeah… also to add HYP admissions committee definition of TT is very strict which may surprise a lot of the posters on this forum. I’ve only heard 4 schools being repeatedly mentioned in the nyc private k-12 ecosystem. Everything else will take a discount, meaning they will take class ranking with a grain of salt and think there is a lot of grade inflation generally. Don’t come for me I don’t make the rules.

Curious to know which 4 ?

Guessing here but: Dalton, Trinity, Brearley and Collegiate?

Actually not brearley because of the way they grade. And certainly not dalton. I think another poster mentioned, some privates schools recruit their class based on hook — especially for 9th grade. That’s why some schools look good for matriculation, but it has nothing to do with admissions based on academic excellence. It’s probably true that unless you rank top 10 at a real academic tier 1 private, you are better off at public.

How can this be true if Horace Mann sends ~50 kids to Ivies+Chicago? At what public, would the HM student #37 have better prospects?

Or did you mean for HYP specifically? And as far as I can tell there is zero grade inflation at HM (people think there is grade deflation…)

Yes I meant HYP specifically, and they do respect HM. In terms of college outcomes— if you are old school about it, there’s a very big difference between hyp vs Cornell/uchicago

What does “old school about it” even mean? There’s minimal if any practical difference between these colleges these days however you look at it - quality of student body, quality of education, post-grad opportunities. Obsessing over how many kids a school sends to HYP as though it is a meaningful metric is misguided at best.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Genuinely shocked by how toxic some of these posts are. That said I've spoken with several very credible college admissions consultants and they all share a view that there aren't any true feeder schools anymore. There are Tier 1 schools with known standards of rigor that the TTs fall into along with top boarding schools, SHS's and also (critically) topic suburban publics. It sounds like coming from a top school is a check the box rubric like hitting a certain SAT score. After that it's all about the applicant's relative ranking in their class and how differentiated their story is relative to the rest of the qualified applicant pool.

Would be really curious to see if that's been everyone else's experience or if these consultants are more talking their book with their services being the easy way for an applicant to be differentiated.

Yeah… also to add HYP admissions committee definition of TT is very strict which may surprise a lot of the posters on this forum. I’ve only heard 4 schools being repeatedly mentioned in the nyc private k-12 ecosystem. Everything else will take a discount, meaning they will take class ranking with a grain of salt and think there is a lot of grade inflation generally. Don’t come for me I don’t make the rules.

Curious to know which 4 ?

Guessing here but: Dalton, Trinity, Brearley and Collegiate?

Actually not brearley because of the way they grade. And certainly not dalton. I think another poster mentioned, some privates schools recruit their class based on hook — especially for 9th grade. That’s why some schools look good for matriculation, but it has nothing to do with admissions based on academic excellence. It’s probably true that unless you rank top 10 at a real academic tier 1 private, you are better off at public.

How can this be true if Horace Mann sends ~50 kids to Ivies+Chicago? At what public, would the HM student #37 have better prospects?

Or did you mean for HYP specifically? And as far as I can tell there is zero grade inflation at HM (people think there is grade deflation…)

My kid is at HM. There is no grade inflation. It takes work to get As.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Genuinely shocked by how toxic some of these posts are. That said I've spoken with several very credible college admissions consultants and they all share a view that there aren't any true feeder schools anymore. There are Tier 1 schools with known standards of rigor that the TTs fall into along with top boarding schools, SHS's and also (critically) topic suburban publics. It sounds like coming from a top school is a check the box rubric like hitting a certain SAT score. After that it's all about the applicant's relative ranking in their class and how differentiated their story is relative to the rest of the qualified applicant pool.

Would be really curious to see if that's been everyone else's experience or if these consultants are more talking their book with their services being the easy way for an applicant to be differentiated.

Yeah… also to add HYP admissions committee definition of TT is very strict which may surprise a lot of the posters on this forum. I’ve only heard 4 schools being repeatedly mentioned in the nyc private k-12 ecosystem. Everything else will take a discount, meaning they will take class ranking with a grain of salt and think there is a lot of grade inflation generally. Don’t come for me I don’t make the rules.

Curious to know which 4 ?

Guessing here but: Dalton, Trinity, Brearley and Collegiate?

Actually not brearley because of the way they grade. And certainly not dalton. I think another poster mentioned, some privates schools recruit their class based on hook — especially for 9th grade. That’s why some schools look good for matriculation, but it has nothing to do with admissions based on academic excellence. It’s probably true that unless you rank top 10 at a real academic tier 1 private, you are better off at public.

How can this be true if Horace Mann sends ~50 kids to Ivies+Chicago? At what public, would the HM student #37 have better prospects?

Or did you mean for HYP specifically? And as far as I can tell there is zero grade inflation at HM (people think there is grade deflation…)

My kid is at HM. There is no grade inflation. It takes work to get As.

Yep. HM is basically like a private Stuyvesant.

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

Not PP, but as long as we are only going by HYPS acceptances from the instagram pages, Brearley *is* seemingly much more impressive than HM/Trinity, which in turn are much closer to e.g. Fieldston/Riverdale.

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

Not PP, but as long as we are only going by HYPS acceptances from the instagram pages, Brearley *is* seemingly much more impressive than HM/Trinity, which in turn are much closer to e.g. Fieldston/Riverdale.

OMG. Stop with this nonsense. It's no way to rate schools or make choices about your child's education.

Any of these schools will provide your children with fantastic experiences if the fit works for them. And there are many colleges beyond the four you've decided "we" should only be considering when measuring "college successes."

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

Not PP, but as long as we are only going by HYPS acceptances from the instagram pages, Brearley *is* seemingly much more impressive than HM/Trinity, which in turn are much closer to e.g. Fieldston/Riverdale.

OMG. Stop with this nonsense. It's no way to rate schools or make choices about your child's education.

Any of these schools will provide your children with fantastic experiences if the fit works for them. And there are many colleges beyond the four you've decided "we" should only be considering when measuring "college successes."

I am assuming you are replying to me (the PP here) -- I did not "decide" anything, not am I choosing anything for my children based on matriculations to those schools. I am simply pointing out a statistical pattern that is relevant to the discussion at hand and that for whatever reason has served as a possible metric; it's up to you to decide whether it has any relevance to your own life.

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Anonymous wrote:Nightingale and Browning seem a lot stronger than usual this year.

and CGPS, Trevor as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

Not PP, but as long as we are only going by HYPS acceptances from the instagram pages, Brearley *is* seemingly much more impressive than HM/Trinity, which in turn are much closer to e.g. Fieldston/Riverdale.

OMG. Stop with this nonsense. It's no way to rate schools or make choices about your child's education.

Any of these schools will provide your children with fantastic experiences if the fit works for them. And there are many colleges beyond the four you've decided "we" should only be considering when measuring "college successes."

I am assuming you are replying to me (the PP here) -- I did not "decide" anything, not am I choosing anything for my children based on matriculations to those schools. I am simply pointing out a statistical pattern that is relevant to the discussion at hand and that for whatever reason has served as a possible metric; it's up to you to decide whether it has any relevance to your own life.

It has no relevance in anyone's life.

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Anonymous wrote:Spence did very well this year but not that many HYP.

9 out of 50 girls so far.

that seems pretty high to me

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Anonymous wrote:This probably depends on what field the [unhooked] kids are going into. Brearley is still very strong in the humanities, and a graduate is guaranteed to have a level of verbal polish (and almost guaranteed to have a liberal lean). Theater is mandatory for a reason. And for STEM fields, girls with high level of aptitude are desirable, so 1 or 2 top math girls have reasonably good prospects (similarly to other top privates and publics). At least that's my rough extrapolation from the few happy outcomes I am familiar with.

Almost the entire grade is filled with happy outcomes, unless you mean happy outcomes only with respect to HYP. Then it's only about 20% of the class that has happy outcomes in that narrow sense.

The conversation is about HYP and some posters delusion that B is a genius factory, so much so that it leaves other TTs in the dust. Occam’s razor says some of them are super rich and can buy spots

I haven't seen anyone say Brearley leaves other TTs in the dust. If you can point out those posts I would be interested to read them. I've only seen posters say TTs dwarf non-TTs in college successes, and then some poster (maybe you?) say it was all due to rich parents or squash. I've gone through the thread and the only post I seeing comparing Brearley to another school specifically was one saying Brearley and Spence outcomes blow Riverdale out of the water. Because Riverdale is not a TT, I don't think that supports your assertion either.

Not PP, but as long as we are only going by HYPS acceptances from the instagram pages, Brearley *is* seemingly much more impressive than HM/Trinity, which in turn are much closer to e.g. Fieldston/Riverdale.

HYPS seems just to be a silly barometer of what is doing well but from what i see Brearley has a very high percent of girls who go there. but more importantly the t25 (or whatever broader school metric you want to use) shows the vast percent of B kids go to these great schools.

i hear it very stressful though that might be anecdotal

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It’s probably true that unless you rank top 10 at a real academic tier 1 private, you are better off at public.

this is incorrect in my view. i think the data supports the fact that your comment doesn't make much sense.

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Anonymous wrote:New admin at Brearley from a middling school upstate with low Ivy admissions (1 girls to Harvard in 4 years, 2 to Yale). Curious to see how that works out in next 5-10.

So far Brearley has 5 going to Harvard, and the decisions are still coming in on the instagram account (they post about one a day).

So I guess the new admin from some random upstate school isn’t doing such a bad job 🤷🏻‍♀️

They’d have gotten in from Jackson MS High too. Their TT had nothing to do with it. Rich parents did.

Agree to disagree. There are rich kids with legacy across all these TT and yet B manages to outperform.
Just to add, I’ve spent a lot of time interviewing kids at a number of specialized public schools for HYP admissions and it made me realize that TT private schools help these kids become more self-aware and articulate than others. It is impressive.

You don’t seem to understand. An eight figure donor, a squash player the coach wants, and a minority with a 1500 will almost certainly get into Harvard. These are the majority of TTs exmissions to HYPS. All B did was accept more of these families and draw from this pipeline. There are fewer of them at other schools. And the idea that Dwight has them in any appreciable numbers is laughable, a double Harvard legacy is too smart to pay for a school like that.

the fact that you can see the admissions for all these TT schools can show you that these aren't all uber rich kids.