My gut feeling on 3/26 BOE vote

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just file already. What is stopping you. If there are tons of Wootton parents who want the laws, surely one is an attorney who can handle the lawsuit and money was collected for the filing fees and costs.

For the last time, you can’t file before the vote. JFC.

Of course you can. Stop making stuff up.

LOL. By the way, what is your stupid answer to why TT is in court defending McGuire’s $168M disaster?

One has nothing to do with the other. You could have filed to try to block the vote or get it postponed. What happened to all the donations? Did you steal it?

No you can’t file to block the vote or have it postponed. Clearly you want them to file prematurely and be dismissed.

I do wonder why they’re in such a hurry to have litigation. First it was “litigation is a waste of taxpayer money,” now it’s “hurry up and file already.”

If you don't intend to do it, stop with the threats as no one takes you seriously and clearly few Wootton parents care or they'd be out in larger numbers at the meetings.

You must live under a rock. It will be filed after the BOE votes.

File now... the vote is going through, we all know that and you are just wasting time.

Nah, they’ll wait for the vote. Also, whose time is being wasted? If it’s not your time, why do you care? What difference does a few more days make if you’re right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that BOE is actually MUCH more torn and concerned about the Woodward study than the Crown one. That one has real issues with community engagement and equity--this one only has louder voices. How do I know? You'll see on Thursday.

Stop being coy. This is an anonymous message board. If you know something, please just tell the rest of us.

Google
Posted on sites

Are you referring to people saying Wheaton Woods hasn't had enough time to give proper feedback? I don't think that's what PP meant, that was raised weeks ago and the idea of gathering more feedback on which option they'd prefer from Wheaton Woods was voted down by the BOE. PP is suggesting that something dramatic is going to happen on Thursday so presumably they're referring to something different.

I believe at this point Taylor, possibly accompanied by some BOE members but possibly not, has met with PTA reps from every ES recommended to go to Woodward in his “modified B” recommendation. That has happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that BOE is actually MUCH more torn and concerned about the Woodward study than the Crown one. That one has real issues with community engagement and equity--this one only has louder voices. How do I know? You'll see on Thursday.

I blame MCPS and their consulting firm for how their surveys. In addition to low participation in the DCC, nobody collected data about what ES you’re zoned for. Someone could also lie or be confused. For example, I live in the DCC and can’t remember which cluster I registered for in the survey. My kid doesn’t go to their home school, but still within the DCC.

Also, whose voices are we trying to cater to? Families that will have to deal with the transition in boundaries/programs in secondary schools in 2027-2032? Families of rising kindergarteners still on the fend about their home school versus an immersion school? Tax payers that can’t afford tax hikes? The families that will be in MCPS in 10 years?

These boundaries will likely stay in place for decades. I don’t think individuals with current students should be the ONLY voice we hear. Taylor has done his due diligence with balancing enrollment. SOMEBODY has to leave Wheaton because it’s so crowded. Whether you move schools to Woodward or Rockville, it will be unexpected.

In hindsight, it would have been nice for Taylor to meet with every elementary PTA in each of his recommended changes but his schedule doesn’t match working parents and many PTA presidents are MCPS employees who fear retaliation/conflict of interest.

At this point, the BOE and MCPS should focus their effort and time on HOW this transition will happen. Lots of logistics that seem like they could go wrong. How can we make it smoother and less expensive? What’s the plan for communities that have chosen to segregate from each other who will now be together?

These are wise words. I endorse all of this.

It is extremely hard to get the general parent population to pay attention to anything until it is close and real - ie, the Superintendent’s actual recommendation.

The majority of the A-G proposals had Wheaton Woods staying at Wheaton, but 2 of them had WW moving to Woodward. On the one hand it’s reasonable even for people who are paying attention to think that a 2/7 scenario is not likely to be the chosen option. But it was clearly on the table.

People have a lot going on and if something seems far away or their focus is on more immediate concerns, it’s hard to get that feedback early in the process. This was a LONG process for people who were involved and paying attention the whole time. But there are also a lot of people who are not going to pay attention until the very end no matter how long you make the process.

By the time the Super got down to one recommended option, he and MCPS had a lot invested in that one option. And at least some BOE members were very involved in the development of that option, at least for Woodward.

[Anonymous]

What time exactly will the public find out the decision from 3/26 vote?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What time exactly will the public find out the decision from 3/26 vote?

I would assume pretty quickly but this is a done deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What time exactly will the public find out the decision from 3/26 vote?

The vote is happening in public, so they'll find out in real time once the BOE votes. It's not a closed meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What time exactly will the public find out the decision from 3/26 vote?

The session is open to the public and will be streamed online. They'll probably send out a message that evening but who knows. If you aren't watching it, I'm sure someone will post here about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that BOE is actually MUCH more torn and concerned about the Woodward study than the Crown one. That one has real issues with community engagement and equity--this one only has louder voices. How do I know? You'll see on Thursday.

I blame MCPS and their consulting firm for how their surveys. In addition to low participation in the DCC, nobody collected data about what ES you’re zoned for. Someone could also lie or be confused. For example, I live in the DCC and can’t remember which cluster I registered for in the survey. My kid doesn’t go to their home school, but still within the DCC.

Also, whose voices are we trying to cater to? Families that will have to deal with the transition in boundaries/programs in secondary schools in 2027-2032? Families of rising kindergarteners still on the fend about their home school versus an immersion school? Tax payers that can’t afford tax hikes? The families that will be in MCPS in 10 years?

These boundaries will likely stay in place for decades. I don’t think individuals with current students should be the ONLY voice we hear. Taylor has done his due diligence with balancing enrollment. SOMEBODY has to leave Wheaton because it’s so crowded. Whether you move schools to Woodward or Rockville, it will be unexpected.

In hindsight, it would have been nice for Taylor to meet with every elementary PTA in each of his recommended changes but his schedule doesn’t match working parents and many PTA presidents are MCPS employees who fear retaliation/conflict of interest.

At this point, the BOE and MCPS should focus their effort and time on HOW this transition will happen. Lots of logistics that seem like they could go wrong. How can we make it smoother and less expensive? What’s the plan for communities that have chosen to segregate from each other who will now be together?

These are wise words. I endorse all of this.

It is extremely hard to get the general parent population to pay attention to anything until it is close and real - ie, the Superintendent’s actual recommendation.

The majority of the A-G proposals had Wheaton Woods staying at Wheaton, but 2 of them had WW moving to Woodward. On the one hand it’s reasonable even for people who are paying attention to think that a 2/7 scenario is not likely to be the chosen option. But it was clearly on the table.

People have a lot going on and if something seems far away or their focus is on more immediate concerns, it’s hard to get that feedback early in the process. This was a LONG process for people who were involved and paying attention the whole time. But there are also a lot of people who are not going to pay attention until the very end no matter how long you make the process.

By the time the Super got down to one recommended option, he and MCPS had a lot invested in that one option. And at least some BOE members were very involved in the development of that option, at least for Woodward.

The biggest complaint is that Option H seemed to come out of the blue. Looking backwards, the chronology of events would indicate that MCPS considered (and was planning for) moving Wootton to Crown in mid-2024 - it just didn’t tell anyone that was a possibility until December 2025.

There were apparently emails sent to MCPS staff to prepare for a move to Crown - before Option H was released. Even if this was a contingency, and not a pre-determined outcome for Option H, it still demonstrates MCPS knew it was a possibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The irony is that BOE is actually MUCH more torn and concerned about the Woodward study than the Crown one. That one has real issues with community engagement and equity--this one only has louder voices. How do I know? You'll see on Thursday.

I blame MCPS and their consulting firm for how their surveys. In addition to low participation in the DCC, nobody collected data about what ES you’re zoned for. Someone could also lie or be confused. For example, I live in the DCC and can’t remember which cluster I registered for in the survey. My kid doesn’t go to their home school, but still within the DCC.

Also, whose voices are we trying to cater to? Families that will have to deal with the transition in boundaries/programs in secondary schools in 2027-2032? Families of rising kindergarteners still on the fend about their home school versus an immersion school? Tax payers that can’t afford tax hikes? The families that will be in MCPS in 10 years?

These boundaries will likely stay in place for decades. I don’t think individuals with current students should be the ONLY voice we hear. Taylor has done his due diligence with balancing enrollment. SOMEBODY has to leave Wheaton because it’s so crowded. Whether you move schools to Woodward or Rockville, it will be unexpected.

In hindsight, it would have been nice for Taylor to meet with every elementary PTA in each of his recommended changes but his schedule doesn’t match working parents and many PTA presidents are MCPS employees who fear retaliation/conflict of interest.

At this point, the BOE and MCPS should focus their effort and time on HOW this transition will happen. Lots of logistics that seem like they could go wrong. How can we make it smoother and less expensive? What’s the plan for communities that have chosen to segregate from each other who will now be together?

These are wise words. I endorse all of this.

It is extremely hard to get the general parent population to pay attention to anything until it is close and real - ie, the Superintendent’s actual recommendation.

The majority of the A-G proposals had Wheaton Woods staying at Wheaton, but 2 of them had WW moving to Woodward. On the one hand it’s reasonable even for people who are paying attention to think that a 2/7 scenario is not likely to be the chosen option. But it was clearly on the table.

People have a lot going on and if something seems far away or their focus is on more immediate concerns, it’s hard to get that feedback early in the process. This was a LONG process for people who were involved and paying attention the whole time. But there are also a lot of people who are not going to pay attention until the very end no matter how long you make the process.

By the time the Super got down to one recommended option, he and MCPS had a lot invested in that one option. And at least some BOE members were very involved in the development of that option, at least for Woodward.

The biggest complaint is that Option H seemed to come out of the blue. Looking backwards, the chronology of events would indicate that MCPS considered (and was planning for) moving Wootton to Crown in mid-2024 - it just didn’t tell anyone that was a possibility until December 2025.

There were apparently emails sent to MCPS staff to prepare for a move to Crown - before Option H was released. Even if this was a contingency, and not a pre-determined outcome for Option H, it still demonstrates MCPS knew it was a possibility.

I can't find it, but I thought people were mad about that email going out because it was before the superintendent's official recommendation / official BOE vote. I'm pretty sure it wasn't before Option H because Option H blindsided everybody.

Also, I've seen assertions several times about how Crown was floated as early as mid-2024, but that was also before Taylor was hired and a lot of BoE members were elected and without any proof outside of Wootton being removed from the CIP again.

I'm always more inclined with Hanlon's Razor in these situations; this has been a chaotic mess because MCPS and Taylor have been flying by the seat of their pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just file already. What is stopping you. If there are tons of Wootton parents who want the laws, surely one is an attorney who can handle the lawsuit and money was collected for the filing fees and costs.

For the last time, you can’t file before the vote. JFC.

Of course you can. Stop making stuff up.

LOL. By the way, what is your stupid answer to why TT is in court defending McGuire’s $168M disaster?

One has nothing to do with the other. You could have filed to try to block the vote or get it postponed. What happened to all the donations? Did you steal it?

No you can’t file to block the vote or have it postponed. Clearly you want them to file prematurely and be dismissed.

I do wonder why they’re in such a hurry to have litigation. First it was “litigation is a waste of taxpayer money,” now it’s “hurry up and file already.”

If you don't intend to do it, stop with the threats as no one takes you seriously and clearly few Wootton parents care or they'd be out in larger numbers at the meetings.

You must live under a rock. It will be filed after the BOE votes.

oh my...BOE/TT shakes in their boots...lol...You must be the one living under the rock if you think that they have considered all legals aspects. But please go ahead..it will have some entertainment value to the rest of us

[Anonymous]

They should leave kids in walk zone at Wheaton at Wheaton. Silly to bus other kids in and bus out walk zone kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should leave kids in walk zone at Wheaton at Wheaton. Silly to bus other kids in and bus out walk zone kids.

And that is supposed to be a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should leave kids in walk zone at Wheaton at Wheaton. Silly to bus other kids in and bus out walk zone kids.

You are funny if you think Mcps or the BOE care about Wheaton and DCC families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just file already. What is stopping you. If there are tons of Wootton parents who want the laws, surely one is an attorney who can handle the lawsuit and money was collected for the filing fees and costs.

For the last time, you can’t file before the vote. JFC.

Of course you can. Stop making stuff up.

LOL. By the way, what is your stupid answer to why TT is in court defending McGuire’s $168M disaster?

One has nothing to do with the other. You could have filed to try to block the vote or get it postponed. What happened to all the donations? Did you steal it?

No you can’t file to block the vote or have it postponed. Clearly you want them to file prematurely and be dismissed.

I do wonder why they’re in such a hurry to have litigation. First it was “litigation is a waste of taxpayer money,” now it’s “hurry up and file already.”

If you don't intend to do it, stop with the threats as no one takes you seriously and clearly few Wootton parents care or they'd be out in larger numbers at the meetings.

You must live under a rock. It will be filed after the BOE votes.

File now... the vote is going through, we all know that and you are just wasting time.

Nah, they’ll wait for the vote. Also, whose time is being wasted? If it’s not your time, why do you care? What difference does a few more days make if you’re right?

Just file. You got the donations. Follow through and be transparent. You act like we care. We don’t. Go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What time exactly will the public find out the decision from 3/26 vote?

Probably around 6pm