My gut feeling on 3/26 BOE vote

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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available.

On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.”

Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen.


Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge.

He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river.


Sincere question- do you actually believe this is true? You believe that this man is intentionally making decisions to harm the school district for the purpose of causing families to move to Fairfax? You genuinely and sincerely believe this?
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


You aren't making sense.

I don't need to be OK with past decisions to be OK with current decisions that are influenced by prior decisions.

And since you want to make this somehow about the White House- when the Biden administration took actions that were needed to clean up from the prior administration's actions, does that mean Biden was "OK with" those actions?


But you are okay with those past decisions, otherwise you would be calling for many MCPS people to be fired for mismanagement, and not allowing them to make any more decisions. Instead you are supporting the new decisions made by the same people who made those poor decisions.

As for current decisions, you’re okay with those too, even if MCPS has to allegedly break the law to push them through.

Finally, as for the guy in the White House, you missed the point. If the guy in charge thinks it’s the right decision, your position is that he is automatically 100% correct and must not be questioned (or sued).

Talk about living 1984 - “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available.

On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.”

Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen.


Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge.

He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river.


Sincere question- do you actually believe this is true? You believe that this man is intentionally making decisions to harm the school district for the purpose of causing families to move to Fairfax? You genuinely and sincerely believe this?


Do you believe that these decisions are ideologically driven? Do you prefer a meritocratic magnet program, or a lottery system with racial quotas? If you had to bet $1,000 on either the performance of such magnet programs improving or declining after this change, which would you bet?
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


You aren't making sense.

I don't need to be OK with past decisions to be OK with current decisions that are influenced by prior decisions.

And since you want to make this somehow about the White House- when the Biden administration took actions that were needed to clean up from the prior administration's actions, does that mean Biden was "OK with" those actions?


But you are okay with those past decisions, otherwise you would be calling for many MCPS people to be fired for mismanagement, and not allowing them to make any more decisions. Instead you are supporting the new decisions made by the same people who made those poor decisions.

As for current decisions, you’re okay with those too, even if MCPS has to allegedly break the law to push them through.

Finally, as for the guy in the White House, you missed the point. If the guy in charge thinks it’s the right decision, your position is that he is automatically 100% correct and must not be questioned (or sued).

Talk about living 1984 - “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."


OK, so this is the definition of moving the goal posts.

1. You agree that people can and do often have to make current day decisions that are influenced by prior bad decisions, right? OK.

2. I don't have to call for people to be fired to think a bad decision was made. Bad decisions get made all the time. Have you publicly called for firing of people every time you disagree with a decision in your professional and personal life? I doubt it.

3. I never said anything at all like what you are saying about the WH. I never said people should not be questions. There is a difference between agreeing with somebody and saying that nobody should ever question them. You know this.

4. And I can be against baseless lawsuits in general. That has nothing to do with claiming anybody is immune from lawsuit. In fact, I oppose many lawsuits filed by the guy in the WH himself on the grounds that they are baseless.

You have no logic here. You are just attacking people who disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available.

On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.”

Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen.


Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge.

He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river.


Sincere question- do you actually believe this is true? You believe that this man is intentionally making decisions to harm the school district for the purpose of causing families to move to Fairfax? You genuinely and sincerely believe this?


Do you believe that these decisions are ideologically driven? Do you prefer a meritocratic magnet program, or a lottery system with racial quotas? If you had to bet $1,000 on either the performance of such magnet programs improving or declining after this change, which would you bet?


I believe that ideology comes into these decisions. I prefer a meritocratic magnet program (both my children attended one.) I believe the performance (as defined by test scores) of those magnets will decline.

Having answered your questions, can you answer mine?
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available.

On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.”

Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen.


Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge.

He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river.


Sincere question- do you actually believe this is true? You believe that this man is intentionally making decisions to harm the school district for the purpose of causing families to move to Fairfax? You genuinely and sincerely believe this?


Do you believe that these decisions are ideologically driven? Do you prefer a meritocratic magnet program, or a lottery system with racial quotas? If you had to bet $1,000 on either the performance of such magnet programs improving or declining after this change, which would you bet?


I believe that ideology comes into these decisions. I prefer a meritocratic magnet program (both my children attended one.) I believe the performance (as defined by test scores) of those magnets will decline.

Having answered your questions, can you answer mine?


I didn't write the post you originally replied to and don't share it's opinions.
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available.

On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.”

Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen.


Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge.

He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river.


Sincere question- do you actually believe this is true? You believe that this man is intentionally making decisions to harm the school district for the purpose of causing families to move to Fairfax? You genuinely and sincerely believe this?


Do you believe that these decisions are ideologically driven? Do you prefer a meritocratic magnet program, or a lottery system with racial quotas? If you had to bet $1,000 on either the performance of such magnet programs improving or declining after this change, which would you bet?


I believe that ideology comes into these decisions. I prefer a meritocratic magnet program (both my children attended one.) I believe the performance (as defined by test scores) of those magnets will decline.

Having answered your questions, can you answer mine?


I didn't write the post you originally replied to and don't share it's opinions.


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Anonymous wrote:Super recommendations on Crown and Woodard: Pass
Six Regional model: Pass

For the record, I am not happy about either. But it is what it is...


It’s rubber stamping at its finest.
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I got some insight that this third item is actually only to agree to establish secondary program regions. It is NOT necessarily committing to the six regions previously laid out. It is simply to agree to move from things like the current DCC to a similar regional model for the entire county with the details to be determined. The wording indicates this read is correct.

8.3 Approval of Superintendent’s Recommendation to Establish Secondary Regional Programs
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Anonymous wrote:I got some insight that this third item is actually only to agree to establish secondary program regions. It is NOT necessarily committing to the six regions previously laid out. It is simply to agree to move from things like the current DCC to a similar regional model for the entire county with the details to be determined. The wording indicates this read is correct.

8.3 Approval of Superintendent’s Recommendation to Establish Secondary Regional Programs


Crazy that they are dissolving the NEC and DCC without a specific vote for each of these
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Abstentions are unacepptable
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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it'll be no, but abstentions - they'll say there wasn't enough time to study or enough community feedback.

Also, going on the record that the Wootton community fighting for one school was a huge distraction - had the entire county come together (looking at you MCCPTA, where were you?) against the six region program model, there could have been changes. Instead, Taylor gets his bomb, blowing up the entire school system, and decimating the handful of excellent schools that remained of a once great school system


MCCPTA criticized the regional model last fall, and the board didn't care.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/10/31/mccpta-slow-programming-changes/


So did the teachers union
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Anonymous wrote:Without question, it will all pass and all the BOE members will vote for it.


It will pass, but you might get a few BOE members who are nominated to perform and cast a no vote to make the public believe their petitions and protests made a difference.

If they cast unanimous votes it’ll validate the rubber stamping criticism they insist is not reality.


You seem to think there is a wide-ranging conspiracy that involves the superintendent and the entire BOE to do...what exactly? What is their motivation to conspire together and make this choice if it is not the one they think is best for the whole county?


It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.”

The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement.

You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either.

Sounds rather authoritarian.

None of this tracks, or answers the question.

Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation?


MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made.


PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past?

I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing.

I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion...


So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H.

I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well.

Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way.


You aren't making sense.

I don't need to be OK with past decisions to be OK with current decisions that are influenced by prior decisions.

And since you want to make this somehow about the White House- when the Biden administration took actions that were needed to clean up from the prior administration's actions, does that mean Biden was "OK with" those actions?


But you are okay with those past decisions, otherwise you would be calling for many MCPS people to be fired for mismanagement, and not allowing them to make any more decisions. Instead you are supporting the new decisions made by the same people who made those poor decisions.

As for current decisions, you’re okay with those too, even if MCPS has to allegedly break the law to push them through.

Finally, as for the guy in the White House, you missed the point. If the guy in charge thinks it’s the right decision, your position is that he is automatically 100% correct and must not be questioned (or sued).

Talk about living 1984 - “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."


OK, so this is the definition of moving the goal posts.

1. You agree that people can and do often have to make current day decisions that are influenced by prior bad decisions, right? OK.

2. I don't have to call for people to be fired to think a bad decision was made. Bad decisions get made all the time. Have you publicly called for firing of people every time you disagree with a decision in your professional and personal life? I doubt it.

3. I never said anything at all like what you are saying about the WH. I never said people should not be questions. There is a difference between agreeing with somebody and saying that nobody should ever question them. You know this.

4. And I can be against baseless lawsuits in general. That has nothing to do with claiming anybody is immune from lawsuit. In fact, I oppose many lawsuits filed by the guy in the WH himself on the grounds that they are baseless.

You have no logic here. You are just attacking people who disagree with you.



My logic is sound. Let the courts sort this out.

And for the record, I have fired people for making bad decisions based on flawed data or a failure to get accurate data. I most certainly do not give them another chance to screw up.
Anonymous
They need to pause the vote on Woodward now that Wheaton Woods released a statement that they were unaware they would be moved to a high school that is 30 minute drive away for them. Early options did not include that and there was no meaningful outreach to them (in Spanish etc).
Anonymous
MCPS really needs to focus on those walk zones. Why cause hardship to move students so far away from their homes?
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