MCEA is the teacher's union. |
It’s not a conspiracy theory if it turns out to be true. Then again, MCPS will say “oh well, too late now.” The chronology of events and other evidence appear to show that the decision was made before community engagement. You are convinced they’re right, so you have a clear bias. I guess the ends justify the means in your mind - laws and regulations don’t matter, and apparently the views of those most affected don’t either. Sounds rather authoritarian. |
None of this tracks, or answers the question. Why would all of these people collude to do something “wrong.” What is the motivation? |
Agreed, if the Black and Brown Coalition hadn't been bought off to say "we should implement exactly what MCPS has proposed right away" but had instead included even some modest calls for change, they would have had a lot of support and maybe we could have all coalesced around that and made the programs better. But instead they decided it was more important to be seen giving Taylor the favor he asked for than to try to improve the programs, so they'll sail through as-is, strengthening many rich schools and screwing over many poorer ones. |
MCPS had a $300M+ parcel with a 20-year deadline and no comparable land available—but not the data to justify a new high school. Now, instead of rethinking that decision, they’re proposing to close a 55-year-old school to make Crown work. That’s not planning—that’s backfilling a decision that was already made. |
+1. MCCPTA has been active on this since it was first discussed. Taylor, central office staff, and the BOE ignored them and anyone else with criticisms. |
You can’t rethink an already almost built school. The school is built, we don’t have the students to fill it. It NEEDS to be used to house HS students according to the state because they funded it for that purpose. Even IF they knew they couldn’t fill it before they broke ground - contracts were signed well before that. It’s built, it’s VERY close to a school that needs IMMEDIATE repairs. This makes logical sense - move the school that needs repairs to the new school. There is already a boundary study that changes Wootton is all of the options except maybe 1. This is the most Logical Fiscally responsible move. Is it the most preferred move? No I’m sure not. It’s just doing the best with what we’ve got. If this was happening to any other school those opposed would be completely for it. |
PP here. So they are trying to make the best decision today, given poor decisions in the past? I'm OK with that. That is not a conspiracy or wrongdoing. I'm not making the argument that H is the objectively best option (though I do think it likely is). I'm trying to get at the view that there is conspiracy/collusion, rather than a difference of opinion... |
They have collected almost no data at all, so I think there is plenty more information they could reasonably provide... They could survey 6th and 7th grade parents/students to see if there is interest in the current proposal. They promised to do this several times but never followed through. They could make estimates on how many kids will leave each high school based on previous data instead of assumptions. For example, MCPS is suggesting 100+ students will leave Whitman for regional programs each year. Currently, an average of 10 kids per year leave Whitman and there were another 24 on some wait list or another last year. What data do they have suggesting so many more students will leave? The only answer I have been given is "we believe they will." MCPS said students turn down programs because of long commutes but are offering buses from high schools only which will make the commute impossible for some students. They could provide data on how much commute times will improve. MCPS could be honest about the budget. The boundary study says new bus routes cost $125,000 each, but the regional model budget claims it is only $50,000 for a new bus route. Which is it? |
So you’re okay with what MCPS did in the past, and you’re okay with all of MCPS’ failures in pushing Option H. I guess you’re okay with what the guy in the White House is doing - he thinks it’s the right thing to do as well. Fortunately, courts don’t look at things that way. |
100% agreement. MCPS doubled down on this school needing to be built due to overcrowding, right up until a 180 turnaround, citing data that has ALWAYS been available. On Thursday, Taylor told Bethesda Today that the decision about revising high school programming was a “critical inflection point for our community, for us to decide whether or not we want to espouse values and not live by them or espouse values and live by them.” Make no mistake, the decisions to close Crown and close the merit-based magnet system are ideologically driven. If MCPS decide to override the community in a misguided pursuit of equity, it will justify the guy in the White House, radicalize some fraction of the community, drive private school admissions, lower our overall performance, and end the legacy of the county. If you support these kinds of decisions, you don't get to complain about who's running the government. You are creating the resentment that makes this happen. |
You aren't making sense. I don't need to be OK with past decisions to be OK with current decisions that are influenced by prior decisions. And since you want to make this somehow about the White House- when the Biden administration took actions that were needed to clean up from the prior administration's actions, does that mean Biden was "OK with" those actions? |
/s/close Crown/close Wootton/ |
I agree with all of this which is different from the latest petition. The petition definitely sounds like they are trying to kill any changes by demanding interminable data collection. If they just want no changes to the current system they should say that. |
Taylor's values is what he means. He values blowing up neighborhoods, schools, programs, special education, maintenance (developers get $$$ before HVACs are repaired), transportation (costs going up $50M a year), and giving Fairfax the edge. He did come here from Virginia after all. He wants to drive families over the river. |