Psych Sheet out for PVS Open Champs

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, even if that is accurate, the person is saying find a new sport to someone making their first final over the age of 14. They also didn’t specify boys/girls. Should this sport only be for high level swimmers or is it allowed that swimmers who are late bloomers find some joy in their achievements? Maybe just don’t be so elitist

You’re throwing around elitist as though it’s an insult, but this is a champs meet not the November Open so there is a level of “elitism” built in 🙄 I don’t agree that people need to find a new sport, swimming is a sport for life which is part of what makes it awesome, but there is something off about a senior champs meet with the low standards this one has.

Again, so what? If this meet isn’t elite enough for your liking, be like many of the elite swimmers and don’t go to it. No amount of bitcging on here is gonna make anyone care about this meet. So don’t go, and then it’s just like it never existed.

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at least the swimmers had fun right

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

The finals sessions were all timed by PVS officials. This was not a delay to get volunteers; the host club just wasn't there to check the tickets they made everyone buy.

[Anonymous]

Yep this was the issue tonight

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

The finals sessions were all timed by PVS officials. This was not a delay to get volunteers; the host club just wasn't there to check the tickets they made everyone buy.

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

The finals sessions were all timed by PVS officials. This was not a delay to get volunteers; the host club just wasn't there to check the tickets they made everyone buy.

Is this a new thing that is happening, officials timing finals?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

The finals sessions were all timed by PVS officials. This was not a delay to get volunteers; the host club just wasn't there to check the tickets they made everyone buy.

Is this a new thing that is happening, officials timing finals?

It is to start preparing officials for the US hosting thr summer Olympics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

Please do not respond just to respond when you are completely wrong and have no idea what you’re talking about. A very long line of parents waited an hour to enter the pool. It was about 6 minutes before it began when the host team’s two scanners slowly walked up. You could not have been there to answer this or else you’re purposefully lying. Which is it?

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Anonymous wrote:It is also because two meets were combined. JR/Sr which would attract younger teens to one and older/faster to the other. If they didn't do it then very few young kids would have the finals experience.

If you do not have finals experience by the time you are 15 then it may be time to find a new sport

Even if this were accurate, it would still be one of the most elitist things ever said on these forums. Imagine if all the late bloomers in our sport listened to this clown

For girls, this is pretty accurate. If you aren’t a high level swimmer by age 15, the chance that you will become one is extremely low. Pointing out facts is not some kind of personal affront.

My daughter and her friend fall into this category. Going from BB barely A times to AAA/AAAA times (obviously not as elite as the parent's kids on this forum). We are lucky that our clubs try to develop all swimmers or they would not be making the cuts they are making. But, yes, most girls are entering puberty earlier and I am seeing more kids flaming out earlier on the girl side. We have some friends from other clubs that are now dialing back their very talented swimmers because of the stress and anxiety of these other kids catching up and they are in a plateau phase.

Swim is a hard sport. I hate when parents are elitist and not realizing that these kids are trying to do the best they an and drop time, regardless if an BB/A kid or an AAAA kid. Every time I hear the BS I want to throw the parent in the water and say you do it. You train like they do and then see how much crap you will talk about a child. We should be proud of every single kid, they are out there doing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, even if that is accurate, the person is saying find a new sport to someone making their first final over the age of 14. They also didn’t specify boys/girls. Should this sport only be for high level swimmers or is it allowed that swimmers who are late bloomers find some joy in their achievements? Maybe just don’t be so elitist

You’re throwing around elitist as though it’s an insult, but this is a champs meet not the November Open so there is a level of “elitism” built in 🙄 I don’t agree that people need to find a new sport, swimming is a sport for life which is part of what makes it awesome, but there is something off about a senior champs meet with the low standards this one has.

Again, so what? If this meet isn’t elite enough for your liking, be like many of the elite swimmers and don’t go to it. No amount of bitcging on here is gonna make anyone care about this meet. So don’t go, and then it’s just like it never existed.

Agree. If you don't find it elite enough you have NCSAs in a few weeks and there is futures this summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

Please do not respond just to respond when you are completely wrong and have no idea what you’re talking about. A very long line of parents waited an hour to enter the pool. It was about 6 minutes before it began when the host team’s two scanners slowly walked up. You could not have been there to answer this or else you’re purposefully lying. Which is it?

I was there and you said you waited an hour and now it is 6 minutes. The session started at 4:30, the host team was late in letting people and people were waiting for 20 minutes.

I also saw more lemming parents at this meet. I didn't know why all the parents were rushing in to watch the 1650, I can't believe how many of them had kids swimming that event (sarcasm).

You didn't miss your kid swim their event, you just wanted to rush into the stands, grab the best seat (there was plenty) and then doom scroll on your phone for 90 minutes until your kid swam. It was a gorgeous day, you could have taken a nice walk on campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

Please do not respond just to respond when you are completely wrong and have no idea what you’re talking about. A very long line of parents waited an hour to enter the pool. It was about 6 minutes before it began when the host team’s two scanners slowly walked up. You could not have been there to answer this or else you’re purposefully lying. Which is it?

Why were you waiting an hour? Serious question. Doors opened at 4:30.

You even said they were there scanning before it began. Did you miss your kid's event? So you were just standing around for what reason?

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Anonymous wrote:This meet had a lot of issues. Not allowing parents who paid to enter the bleachers because the host pool’s people failed to come to scan the codes so parents were standing in line for an hour at finals tonight was the worst one.

Standing an hour? Tonight? Not true.

This was one of the better meets I have attended. It was very well run. Certainly better than IMX a few months ago.

The ticket said doors would open at 3pm. I went out walking, so I don't know exactly when they opened, but it was for sure after 4.

I think they adjusted the finals start time because prelims were delayed an hour due to the power outage.

You think wrong, they did not. There was a shorter break between prelims and finals, but they started finals as irondale scheduled and left parents standing in the hall for and hour.

No, finals was originally supposed to start at 4:30 and didn’t start until a little after 5.

Finals started exactly at 4:30 with the two fastest heats of the 1650 that were always scheduled to kick off finals.

This is a regular problem on Sundays at these meets. Distance events take up the first 40 minutes or so of the session and they don’t have timers because inexplicably the distance finals aren’t time your own swimmer. So they refuse to let people in. The parents of the swimmers not in the distance events aren’t necessarily there at the beginning, and the distance parents don’t want to time the whole session. God forbid you have a 5 minute break after distance to get the other timers in place. PVS really sucks at managing the volunteer timer issues.

The finals sessions were all timed by PVS officials. This was not a delay to get volunteers; the host club just wasn't there to check the tickets they made everyone buy.

Is this a new thing that is happening, officials timing finals?

It's not a new thing for officials to time. The officials would like to do this for all the championship meets as it makes it "feel bigger" for the swimmers. However, you need a ton of officials to pull it off. There were a ton of officials this weekend... Also, PVS officials are just parent (and grandparent) volunteers in white shirts.