HS Swim - Districts this weekend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

Yup, those destitute kids from Oakton and Madison being snubbed with timed finals on Friday. (I’m also annoyed at the unfairly inconsistent plans across districts this weekend, but it’s a reach to suggest it’s a matter of race or affluence.)

[Anonymous]

Is Concorde bumping club teams from the pool on Friday afternoon for this change? That’s annoying if no one has even told the affected teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Concorde bumping club teams from the pool on Friday afternoon for this change? That’s annoying if no one has even told the affected teams.

We were told that our pool would not bump teams and we had no options to reschedule like the other districts.

They would be bumping paying clubs and that is a flex. Never heard of a pool doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

This isn’t accurate.

Certainly true of National. We swim in the crappy pools all season - even at Districts. We have kids (often more than one) pass out at meets because we are in the pools that are so hot with no ventilation (Providence, Audrey Moore). Providence blocks are so bad and wobbly it’s a joke. The swimmers can barely stand on them without falling in.

[Anonymous]

Looks like I got a pro forma response from our DSA… I do think they made up their minds by Wednesday and just stuck with it.

“Thank you for reaching out regarding your concerns with the National District Swim Finals.

The administration and coaches from all eight schools in our district met continuously throughout this week to evaluate the upcoming weekend. After a collective vote, it was decided that adjusting the schedule was the unanimous plan due to a variety of factors.

With the uncertainty of the forecast and guidance for this weekend, the National District coordinated with Administration, Coaches, Officials, Volunteers, and the Park Authority to ensure an appropriate and mutually agreed upon plan for our schools and teams. Additionally, the National and Patriot Districts are both different entities, which tournament decisions, structures, and formats can and do vary across many sports.”

[Anonymous]

Thanks for sharing. Very sad for the kids.

[Anonymous]

Redistricting is happening either this year or next so maybe mixing up the teams will bring new perspective and different decision making.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is happening either this year or next so maybe mixing up the teams will bring new perspective and different decision making.

If new perspectives means more common sense, then great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

This isn’t accurate.

Certainly true of National. We swim in the crappy pools all season - even at Districts. We have kids (often more than one) pass out at meets because we are in the pools that are so hot with no ventilation (Providence, Audrey Moore). Providence blocks are so bad and wobbly it’s a joke. The swimmers can barely stand on them without falling in.

Second that National district is treating very shabbily and heavily disadvantaged. Our district meet is Audrey Moore - an incredibly slow pool. All our meets are at slow pools. I am jealous that other district meets are at Oakmont - seriously, that is a great pool. They should rotate year to year who gets to swim in what pool for districts. We often have kids fall and get injured at our meets because the blocks are wobbly - the wobbliest ones are the center lanes. One time had a kid slice their thigh open. We have ambulances show up often at our meets from heat exhaustion - I seriously doubt that is normal for the other districts.

There are some really good swimmers in Nationals. They would probably be even better if they got to swim under better conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

This isn’t accurate.

Certainly true of National. We swim in the crappy pools all season - even at Districts. We have kids (often more than one) pass out at meets because we are in the pools that are so hot with no ventilation (Providence, Audrey Moore). Providence blocks are so bad and wobbly it’s a joke. The swimmers can barely stand on them without falling in.

Second that National district is treating very shabbily and heavily disadvantaged. Our district meet is Audrey Moore - an incredibly slow pool. All our meets are at slow pools. I am jealous that other district meets are at Oakmont - seriously, that is a great pool. They should rotate year to year who gets to swim in what pool for districts. We often have kids fall and get injured at our meets because the blocks are wobbly - the wobbliest ones are the center lanes. One time had a kid slice their thigh open. We have ambulances show up often at our meets from heat exhaustion - I seriously doubt that is normal for the other districts.

There are some really good swimmers in Nationals. They would probably be even better if they got to swim under better conditions.

Concorde districts are no longer at Oakmont.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is happening either this year or next so maybe mixing up the teams will bring new perspective and different decision making.

I hope it happens this year. Perhaps they should also look at the bias in the pool that the different districts swim at and think about that as well.

[Anonymous]

Actually that reminds me that Audrey Moore is closing for a 2 year renovation in Jan 2027 so that’ll impact things for sure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Redistricting is happening either this year or next so maybe mixing up the teams will bring new perspective and different decision making.

I hope it happens this year. Perhaps they should also look at the bias in the pool that the different districts swim at and think about that as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

This isn’t accurate.

Certainly true of National. We swim in the crappy pools all season - even at Districts. We have kids (often more than one) pass out at meets because we are in the pools that are so hot with no ventilation (Providence, Audrey Moore). Providence blocks are so bad and wobbly it’s a joke. The swimmers can barely stand on them without falling in.

Second that National district is treating very shabbily and heavily disadvantaged. Our district meet is Audrey Moore - an incredibly slow pool. All our meets are at slow pools. I am jealous that other district meets are at Oakmont - seriously, that is a great pool. They should rotate year to year who gets to swim in what pool for districts. We often have kids fall and get injured at our meets because the blocks are wobbly - the wobbliest ones are the center lanes. One time had a kid slice their thigh open. We have ambulances show up often at our meets from heat exhaustion - I seriously doubt that is normal for the other districts.

There are some really good swimmers in Nationals. They would probably be even better if they got to swim under better conditions.

Concorde districts are no longer at Oakmont.

Cub Run is not as good as Oakmont but it certainly is not as bad as Audrey Moore. The District meet pools are Oakmont, Cub Run, Audrey Moore, and Yorktown & W&L.

To say these pools are on equal footing is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile quote from the Dr Reid email received about the Hayfield situation last night.

We are firmly committed to fairness and integrity in our athletic programs and ensuring continual compliance with all VHSL rules

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Liberty district doing?

Prelims in Friday and finals on Saturday.

Of course the Langley and McLean are doing prelims and finals.

If you look at the schools. The whiter well performing schools all have Friday prelims and Saturday finals. The "other" school districts do not. Just another way to snub and have bias.

This isn’t accurate.

Certainly true of National. We swim in the crappy pools all season - even at Districts. We have kids (often more than one) pass out at meets because we are in the pools that are so hot with no ventilation (Providence, Audrey Moore). Providence blocks are so bad and wobbly it’s a joke. The swimmers can barely stand on them without falling in.

Second that National district is treating very shabbily and heavily disadvantaged. Our district meet is Audrey Moore - an incredibly slow pool. All our meets are at slow pools. I am jealous that other district meets are at Oakmont - seriously, that is a great pool. They should rotate year to year who gets to swim in what pool for districts. We often have kids fall and get injured at our meets because the blocks are wobbly - the wobbliest ones are the center lanes. One time had a kid slice their thigh open. We have ambulances show up often at our meets from heat exhaustion - I seriously doubt that is normal for the other districts.

There are some really good swimmers in Nationals. They would probably be even better if they got to swim under better conditions.

Concorde districts are no longer at Oakmont.

Cub Run is not as good as Oakmont but it certainly is not as bad as Audrey Moore. The District meet pools are Oakmont, Cub Run, Audrey Moore, and Yorktown & W&L.

To say these pools are on equal footing is ridiculous.

No one said that, just pointing out that the Oakmont comment above no longer applies.
No one is disputing that some high schools within FCSP have fewer and/or lower quality resources. It stinks. But it's hard to agree that National was slighted for the Districts swim meet because of its demographics when you've got Concorde - with very different demographics - in the same position.