NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FALSE. ALL of the Bipartisan Border Bill's changes were to go into effect immediately, and what the 5000 number was about is the daily detention and processing capacity. If more than 5000 people presented themselves at the border (the caravans) then border patrol would be given the autonomous authority to shut down the border, a power they never had before. But as usual Trump and the MAGA movement parroted a bunch of lies about the bipartisan border bill, misrepresented everything in it, claimed it was "horrible" and tanked it even though there were many areas where it went much farther than the House GOP bill, such as going after fentanyl which wasn't even mentioned in the GOP bill.

The bill language proves these things and proves you are a liar. Your opinions and propaganda and disinfo about the bill are irrelevant given what can be shown in writing in the actual bill language. You need to sit this argument out because you are a proven liar.

You’re missing the point. How many are presenting themselves at the border each day now? How many are summarily turned around if they do? The problem appears to be under control.

without any bill

as usual Democrats are incompetent . which really is the core issue with Democrats. they are incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Under President Trump, the globalist dominance of our government is over.

No more prioritizing foreign labor. No more inflationary spending. No more unfair trade deals.

This is the era of Patriotism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.

I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.

He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.

It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.

Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.

I'm not undeestanding how Trump has accomplished what he has done regarding immigration, but the Drmocrats and Biden couldn't without that bill?

Worse. The bill would not have required any changes unless the daily number of illegal aliens exceeded 5000 a day. Less than 5000 a day and nothing changed. It was an awful bill.

HR2 - As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2. HR2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;
* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats/WAPO.

FALSE. ALL of the Bipartisan Border Bill's changes were to go into effect immediately, and what the 5000 number was about is the daily detention and processing capacity. If more than 5000 people presented themselves at the border (the caravans) then border patrol would be given the autonomous authority to shut down the border, a power they never had before. But as usual Trump and the MAGA movement parroted a bunch of lies about the bipartisan border bill, misrepresented everything in it, claimed it was "horrible" and tanked it even though there were many areas where it went much farther than the House GOP bill, such as going after fentanyl which wasn't even mentioned in the GOP bill.

The bill language proves these things and proves you are a liar. Your opinions and propaganda and disinfo about the bill are irrelevant given what can be shown in writing in the actual bill language. You need to sit this argument out because you are a proven liar.

Voters don't care about the Bill. Complicated arguments about legislation that didn't get enacted do not sway voters. What does sway voters?
1) Results (many millions of illegal immigrants brought in under Biden);
2) Rhetoric (Democrats shrieking about the need for more rights and benefits for illegal immigrants, Democrats fighting against any and all deportations of criminals, Democrats urging each other to undermine border control and law enforcement efforts, etc.)

It's very clear to the entire electorate that the Democrats are significantly more in favor of illegal immigration and illegal immigrants than Republicans are. In spite of complicated denials, it's clear that Democrats in general want illegal immigrants to stay here, to get benefits from U.S. taxpayers, and to eventually get the right to vote (for Democrats).

So voters who dislike illegal immigration or its effects are less likely to vote for Democrats. Any debates about how Democrats are ackshually the REAL "tough on the border" Party just end up making Democrats seem dishonest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

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Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

Harris was never the border czar. That's just a Fox News talking point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

Harris was never the border czar. That's just a Fox News talking point.

What was her role at the boarder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

Harris was never the border czar. That's just a Fox News talking point.

What was her role at the boarder?

Border

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

Harris was never the border czar. That's just a Fox News talking point.

What was her role at the boarder?

Border

According to her, it was "root causes." How'd that work out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

We cannot blame the border czar for failures at the border. Therefore, she deserved to be President.

Harris was never the border czar. That's just a Fox News talking point.

What was her role at the boarder?

Border

According to her, it was "root causes." How'd that work out?

That was a hard task. We had no idea!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden lost because he let Republicans frame his administration. Biden needed to talk more about his wins. Harris needed to take the incorrect framing from the republicans head on. The republican controlled media is a juggernaut of lies and the Dems need to learn to compete and under the right.

Neither Biden nor Harris would come straight out against millions of immigrants crossing the border. That wasn't a matter of reframing the Republicans' words. Those of us living in impacted communities know very well what happened. Democrats need to come out strongly against loose immigration policies and quite saying it's racist to say anything about it.

+1 For sure!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.

I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.

He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.

It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.

Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.

I'm not undeestanding how Trump has accomplished what he has done regarding immigration, but the Drmocrats and Biden couldn't without that bill?

Worse. The bill would not have required any changes unless the daily number of illegal aliens exceeded 5000 a day. Less than 5000 a day and nothing changed. It was an awful bill.

HR2 - As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2. HR2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;
* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats/WAPO.

FALSE. ALL of the Bipartisan Border Bill's changes were to go into effect immediately, and what the 5000 number was about is the daily detention and processing capacity. If more than 5000 people presented themselves at the border (the caravans) then border patrol would be given the autonomous authority to shut down the border, a power they never had before. But as usual Trump and the MAGA movement parroted a bunch of lies about the bipartisan border bill, misrepresented everything in it, claimed it was "horrible" and tanked it even though there were many areas where it went much farther than the House GOP bill, such as going after fentanyl which wasn't even mentioned in the GOP bill.

The bill language proves these things and proves you are a liar. Your opinions and propaganda and disinfo about the bill are irrelevant given what can be shown in writing in the actual bill language. You need to sit this argument out because you are a proven liar.

Voters don't care about the Bill. Complicated arguments about legislation that didn't get enacted do not sway voters. What does sway voters?
1) Results (many millions of illegal immigrants brought in under Biden);
2) Rhetoric (Democrats shrieking about the need for more rights and benefits for illegal immigrants, Democrats fighting against any and all deportations of criminals, Democrats urging each other to undermine border control and law enforcement efforts, etc.)

It's very clear to the entire electorate that the Democrats are significantly more in favor of illegal immigration and illegal immigrants than Republicans are. In spite of complicated denials, it's clear that Democrats in general want illegal immigrants to stay here, to get benefits from U.S. taxpayers, and to eventually get the right to vote (for Democrats).

So voters who dislike illegal immigration or its effects are less likely to vote for Democrats. Any debates about how Democrats are ackshually the REAL "tough on the border" Party just end up making Democrats seem dishonest.

[Anonymous]

Let's quit criticizing Harris. She did the best she could.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FALSE. ALL of the Bipartisan Border Bill's changes were to go into effect immediately, and what the 5000 number was about is the daily detention and processing capacity. If more than 5000 people presented themselves at the border (the caravans) then border patrol would be given the autonomous authority to shut down the border, a power they never had before. But as usual Trump and the MAGA movement parroted a bunch of lies about the bipartisan border bill, misrepresented everything in it, claimed it was "horrible" and tanked it even though there were many areas where it went much farther than the House GOP bill, such as going after fentanyl which wasn't even mentioned in the GOP bill.

The bill language proves these things and proves you are a liar. Your opinions and propaganda and disinfo about the bill are irrelevant given what can be shown in writing in the actual bill language. You need to sit this argument out because you are a proven liar.

You’re missing the point. How many are presenting themselves at the border each day now? How many are summarily turned around if they do? The problem appears to be under control.

without any bill

as usual Democrats are incompetent . which really is the core issue with Democrats. they are incompetent.

Without any bill and they are in court every damn day because they lack legal authority to do half the shit they are doing. And they are aren't doing that much winning - just look at the Kilmar case. Y'all think the President can do whatever he wants without any laws yet Kilmar has been returned and is still here.

TALK ABOUT INCOMPETENCE. It's on your side.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an inherently feminine and fear-based movement, so this tracks.

^ This might be my favorite thing about DCUM. It’s precious. Posters try so hard to project this image on Republicans. It doesn’t track. It’ll never stick. You keep at it though Sisyphus.

Anonymous wrote:Have you gotten your pink Glock yet?

I appendix carry an Sig 365 with a Holosun red dot optic and a Streamlight TLR-7 light.

So I was right.

Thank for confirming.

See, the maga loves to dress up their carries, it’s like accessorizing their American Girl dolls.

“Dress up their carries?”

The optic ensures I hit what I’m shooting at and the light ensures I can identify what I’m shooting at in the dark.

Democrats want gun owners to shoot gangster style into the darkness now?

This is why gun owners can’t trust Democrats on guns.

You guys are such scared little kitties that have been suckered into buying accessories and tacticool BS. You seriously think that you are going to whip that thing out and engage in a running gun battle in the dark?

Hilarious!

Does your husband carry one of those little euro manpurses for his carry so that he can be armed in his short shorts in case a scary person looks at him and makes him afraid when he’s at the Trader Joes?

Go to Atlanta and take a nighttime stroll unarmed through Piedmont Park. It's such a beautiful area with a diverse, unhoused group to greet you. .

What the hell has Trump done about the homeless? NOT A GOTDAMM THING. And in fact he's making even more Americans homeless. Pathetic failure. How dare you try and throw some shitty MAGA snark around given your POS king is making the problems even worse.

Oh, honey, I ain't MAGA and don't own a gun. The poor innocent woman and her dog who were stabbed to death there mean more to me than your rude vitriol. There are places where you need to be armed if you choose to spend time in them.

[Anonymous]

The Prelude: December 2024

By the waning days of the Biden-Harris administration in December 2024, Border Patrol apprehensions of illegal migrants at the Southwest border had fallen to just over 47,300, their lowest monthly level in more than four years.

It was largely illusory, because that figure omits the 48,700-plus aliens encountered that month at the Southwest border ports, a direct response to attempts by the Biden-Harris White House to hide the scope of illegal immigration by allowing would-be illegal migrants to secure illicit entry using the CBP One app, a maneuver of questionable legality I dubbed the “CBP One app interview scheme”.

Aliens released into the United States under that scheme were just as removable as those who crossed illegally, and even though it was clear the scheme was riddled with fraud and other risks, most in the media ignored it.

https://cis.org/Arthur/January-2025-Month-Everything-Changed-Immigration

Weird how young men want jobs?