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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.[/quote]

I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.  [/quote]

He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done. [/quote]

It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed.  I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay. [/quote]

Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on.   Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it.  He cared more about wedges than solutions.[/quote]

I'm not undeestanding how Trump has accomplished what he has done regarding immigration, but the Drmocrats and Biden couldn't without that bill? [/quote]

Worse.   The bill would not have required any changes unless the daily number of illegal aliens exceeded 5000 a day.  Less than 5000 a day and nothing changed.  It was an awful bill.

HR2 - As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2. HR2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;
* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats/WAPO.

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FALSE.  ALL of the Bipartisan Border Bill's changes were to go into effect immediately, and what the 5000 number was about is the daily detention and processing capacity.  If more than 5000 people presented themselves at the border (the caravans) then border patrol would be given the autonomous authority to shut down the border, a power they never had before.  But as usual Trump and the MAGA movement parroted a bunch of lies about the bipartisan border bill, misrepresented everything in it, claimed it was "horrible" and tanked it even though there were many areas where it went much farther than the House GOP bill, such as going after fentanyl which wasn't even mentioned in the GOP bill.

The bill language proves these things and proves you are a liar.  Your opinions and propaganda and disinfo about the bill are irrelevant given what can be shown in writing in the actual bill language. You need to sit this argument out because you are a proven liar.[/quote]

Voters don't care about the Bill.  Complicated arguments about legislation that didn't get enacted do not sway voters.  What does sway voters?  
1) Results (many millions of illegal immigrants brought in under Biden); 
2) Rhetoric (Democrats shrieking about the need for more rights and benefits for illegal immigrants, Democrats fighting against any and all deportations of criminals, Democrats urging each other to undermine border control and law enforcement efforts, etc.)

It's very clear to the entire electorate that the Democrats are significantly more in favor of illegal immigration and illegal immigrants than Republicans are.  In spite of complicated denials, it's clear that Democrats in general want illegal immigrants to stay here, to get benefits from U.S. taxpayers, and to eventually get the right to vote (for Democrats).

So voters who dislike illegal immigration or its effects are less likely to vote for Democrats.  [b]Any debates about how Democrats are ackshually the REAL "tough on the border" Party just end up making Democrats seem dishonest.[/b]  [/quote][/quote]

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