So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

These are not accurate grocery prices, at least not in any metro area. Also, again you ignore the lack time, space, and cooking skills cooking from scratch requires. Often, poor kids are home alone feeding themselves, while their parent(s) is at job #2 or even 3. They buy them things they can easily microwave, with low risk of burning the house down.

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

These are not accurate grocery prices, at least not in any metro area. Also, again you ignore the lack time, space, and cooking skills cooking from scratch requires. Often, poor kids are home alone feeding themselves, while their parent(s) is at job #2 or even 3. They buy them things they can easily microwave, with low risk of burning the house down.

People managed to feed themselves, even kids, before microwaves.

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

These are not accurate grocery prices, at least not in any metro area. Also, again you ignore the lack time, space, and cooking skills cooking from scratch requires. Often, poor kids are home alone feeding themselves, while their parent(s) is at job #2 or even 3. They buy them things they can easily microwave, with low risk of burning the house down.

Those are more or less accurate prices. All of those things are staples of my grocery list in DC. There has been inflation but storebrand pasta is about $1.50 a bag/box. Sausage is $5.99. Bell peppers are about $1 each. Decent pasta sauce is $3.99.

You're making excuses. Isn't learning how to use a stove an essential life skill? Learning how to boil pasta and cook rice are basic life tasks that everyone should know, don't present any risk for burning a house down, and are no more complex than cooking a frozen pizza.

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

These are not accurate grocery prices, at least not in any metro area. Also, again you ignore the lack time, space, and cooking skills cooking from scratch requires. Often, poor kids are home alone feeding themselves, while their parent(s) is at job #2 or even 3. They buy them things they can easily microwave, with low risk of burning the house down.

People managed to feed themselves, even kids, before microwaves.

You mean back when families could make it with only one parent working? Also I would hope that more children make it to adulthood in 2025 than 1950

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

As a nutritionist, I used to think the same way you do. However, after working with patients and seeing the faces of those on snap, it’s not that easy. Many are elderly, unable to afford a working stove or unable to lift a pot of water to boil rice. Many are children, whose parent works two jobs to stay eligible for the snap. No time to cook, and often kids unable to safely cook for themselves unless it can be microwaved.
There are many who have a plot in community gardens, make their own bread, and eat rice and beans instead of expensive meats. But these are the young healthy ones who are not on snap for long.
For those in urban settings, corner stores rarely offer produce. Shelf stable processed food are a more reliable investment for the store owner.
For those in rural settings, which represent the majority of snap recipients, stores are often a long drive away and trips are not often enough to get produce or short lived goods. Living near a farm doesn’t mean you actually have access to what’s grown on that farm. Most farms are corn, wheat, soy. Not the readily edible kind.

This is literally dollar general’s whole business model. They build them either in the middle of nowhere or in low income neighborhoods where there isn’t a lot of grocery options. If you have limited transportation a lot of people buy their food from there, and they don’t sell fresh meat or vegetables.

They don’t sell them because people won’t buy them. Not when they can buy crap instead. If snap was limited to ONLY milk, fruit, vegetables, cheese, eggs, beans, rice, oatmeal- you can bet Dollar General and gas stations would start stocking these items

DP. Don’t be dense. Do you know how much food grocery stores have to throw out? Of course these stores are more interested in stocking things that can sit on a shelf for six months. If Whole Foods could do that they would too.

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Anonymous wrote:Food Stamps (SNAP benefits) can’t be paid out if Congress does not appropriate funds for November.

What will happen if 40+ million people don’t get food stamps about 10 days from now? Total monthly benefits are just under $8 billlion.

They willingly traded food stamps for a gold ballroom. Who needs food when the cabal of vainglorious billionaires and their Orange Lard Ball of Stinking Rancid Grease can dance all night in a gaudy, garish plastic gold ballroom!

Well, if people voted for this, then let it be. I don't understand why democrats are so triggered by this? According to Democrats, it is MAGAs who are on food stamps, so let them live with consequences of their vote. All good.

Good Americans would care that their fellow citizens including children are going with out food. In a country with our resources?

Did someone actually vote to give Argentina money and not those in the U.S. what happened to U.S. first?

Why are you not triggered?

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The majority of people on food stamps voted for this. They can starve for all I care.
When they see their kids starving, they might learn something and start using a brain cell or two.

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I'm more triggered that so many people are in need of help buying food! It's not why but so many!

And I'd like to know who is finding bell peppers for $1.50??!!

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Doritos at Safeway are like $7 each not on sale you you know...

I'm think fresh food is $$$ and anyone who suggests it isn't us 1. Out of touch 2. Lying or 3. Shopping at a really gross store!

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Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

You are a first class douche. Cheap food keeps people fed.

All the things you list are VERY expensive now and you need a full kitchen and the utensils and spices to cook with them.

Go crawl back under your rock.

No they aren't and no you don't. Cooking is nowhere near as complicated as you think.

I don't think we should micromanage people's grocery shopping but it is ridiculous to say that something like rice and beans is too hard to make and requires fancy equipment.

You can trace the rise of obesity to when Home ec was taken out of schools

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My friend from Germany: 'Americans can't handle anything (adversity) these days.'

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Anonymous wrote:I'm more triggered that so many people are in need of help buying food! It's not why but so many!

And I'd like to know who is finding bell peppers for $1.50??!!

Have you been to Walmart or Aldi?

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Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

People using SNAP aren't idiots - they know that they 25 frozen pizzas will go farther because it's cheaper to purchase, easier to store, and faster to cook. If you want those recieving EBT to eat better, make the nutritious stuff cheaper for them to buy and give them access to kitchen facilities in which to store/cook their food. You and I both know you're opposed to that, though.

The side that says healthy food costs less is technically correct.

A sack of potatoes costs less than a large bag of chips and it’ll last longer too. However, people forget that prepping those potatoes would require salt, butter, milk in the example of mashed potatoes. That’s three extra ingredients to buy at the store. When you have a limited amount on SNAP, you want to get the most bang for your back and processed/packaged foods like potato chips require zero Prep time or any additional ingredients to purchase. In the price of buying all four ingredients for mashed potatoes, three or four bags of potato chips could be bought instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Doritos at Safeway are like $7 each not on sale you you know...

I'm think fresh food is $$$ and anyone who suggests it isn't us 1. Out of touch 2. Lying or 3. Shopping at a really gross store!

No, it isn’t. At Walmart you can get a 30-serving container of oatmeal for $4, $2.93/gallon milk, an 8 lb (yes, 8lbs) bag of pinto beans for $6.88, 18 eggs for $3, 5 lbs apples for $6, $0.50/canned vegetables. But people are lazy and prefer to get quick junk

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Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

These are not accurate grocery prices, at least not in any metro area. Also, again you ignore the lack time, space, and cooking skills cooking from scratch requires. Often, poor kids are home alone feeding themselves, while their parent(s) is at job #2 or even 3. They buy them things they can easily microwave, with low risk of burning the house down.

People managed to feed themselves, even kids, before microwaves.

We aren't talking about before. We're talking about now, the world as it actually is.