So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

You are a first class douche. Cheap food keeps people fed.

All the things you list are VERY expensive now and you need a full kitchen and the utensils and spices to cook with them.

Go crawl back under your rock.

No they aren't and no you don't. Cooking is nowhere near as complicated as you think.

I don't think we should micromanage people's grocery shopping but it is ridiculous to say that something like rice and beans is too hard to make and requires fancy equipment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

You are a first class douche. Cheap food keeps people fed.

All the things you list are VERY expensive now and you need a full kitchen and the utensils and spices to cook with them.

Go crawl back under your rock.

No they aren't and no you don't. Cooking is nowhere near as complicated as you think.

I don't think we should micromanage people's grocery shopping but it is ridiculous to say that something like rice and beans is too hard to make and requires fancy equipment.

How dare you suggest people eat rice and beans when they deserve —deserve, mind you, a diet of ice cream, corn chips, cookies, and soft drinks. How dare you!

[Anonymous]

In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They'll have to get a job. Stop mooching.

This. Done with the mooching. Keep it closed for a year, give them plenty of time to job hunt.

Spoken like a true uneducated MAGA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They'll have to get a job. Stop mooching.

This. Done with the mooching. Keep it closed for a year, give them plenty of time to job hunt.

Spoken like a true uneducated MAGA

As a MAGA, if you think Food Stamp issues are only going to hurt inner city Blacks, think again:

37% of SNAP recipients are White Americans.

26% Black Americans.

16% Hispanic Americans.

4% Asian Americans.

2% Native Americans.

Remaining percentage - Not identified.

A country as wealthy as America has no excuse for people going hungry, NONE. If they can give billions of tax subsidies to their billionaire buddies, then they can afford to feed poor Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

I’m all for teaching life skills, including home ec, in schools. But if you really think these are solutions, you need to take a wider view. The REAL solution is forcing companies to pay a living wage to their employees, so that anyone employed full-time does not need to rely on food assistance. Yes, that would still leave full-time caregivers, the disabled, etc, but it’s the one thing that would go the farthest toward solving food insecurity.

All these supposed solutions, like gardens, just put more effort on people who are already stretched thin in terms of money and time. And when you focus on stuff like that, you end up fighting about what each family eats for dinner and how much effort it takes to cook. Which is exactly what the businesses who are raking in profits while underpaying their employees WANT you to stay focused on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

As a nutritionist, I used to think the same way you do. However, after working with patients and seeing the faces of those on snap, it’s not that easy. Many are elderly, unable to afford a working stove or unable to lift a pot of water to boil rice. Many are children, whose parent works two jobs to stay eligible for the snap. No time to cook, and often kids unable to safely cook for themselves unless it can be microwaved.
There are many who have a plot in community gardens, make their own bread, and eat rice and beans instead of expensive meats. But these are the young healthy ones who are not on snap for long.
For those in urban settings, corner stores rarely offer produce. Shelf stable processed food are a more reliable investment for the store owner.
For those in rural settings, which represent the majority of snap recipients, stores are often a long drive away and trips are not often enough to get produce or short lived goods. Living near a farm doesn’t mean you actually have access to what’s grown on that farm. Most farms are corn, wheat, soy. Not the readily edible kind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

You are a first class douche. Cheap food keeps people fed.

All the things you list are VERY expensive now and you need a full kitchen and the utensils and spices to cook with them.

Go crawl back under your rock.

No they aren't and no you don't. Cooking is nowhere near as complicated as you think.

I don't think we should micromanage people's grocery shopping but it is ridiculous to say that something like rice and beans is too hard to make and requires fancy equipment.

How dare you suggest people eat rice and beans when they deserve —deserve, mind you, a diet of ice cream, corn chips, cookies, and soft drinks. How dare you!

I thought we liked American farmers? Who do you think supplies The corn for high fructose corn syrup?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If MAGAs are the majority of SNAP and they voted against it, then it should be cut.

Honestly, this might have to be the thing to do. Blue states will come in to rescue their people. Let the red state MAGAs learn some valuable lessons about the their voting history. Same with their insurance premiums.

The D’s can only try to save people from themselves for so long.

Giving people handouts is not saving people from themselves. We as Democrats should be putting community farms around neighborhoods, planting fruit trees in public parks, bringing back home ec, teaching children in schools how to plant a garden, teaching them how to cook, so the next generation isn’t as dependent on a failing system. Giving them money to buy ultra processed garbage food isn’t saving them from anything.

Why do you assume everyone is living off of ultra processed garbage? Yes, people living on couches or SRO rooms probably are. Hard to make your own organic wheat bread when you only have a microwave and hot plate and work 60 hours on your feet every week. But many people buy whole or minimally processed ingredients to make their meals, or buy ultra processed when it is in fact cheaper on a macro basis (see hot dogs versus steak, for example).

I agree we could do more to teach people how to garden, but not all soils are suitable for growing things, particularly in urban areas that were built up in the asbestos/lead based paint/PCBs everywhere era. It’s quite an upfront investment to build and fill raised planters or containers, and the results are far from guaranteed. Buying greenhouse grown may very well be the more economical choice.

Go spend 5 minutes on TikTok and you’ll find countless videos of people showing their EBT shopping hauls and people in grocery stores showing what happens to carts of food when people can’t pay. It’s almost all ultra processed garbage. They should really be limited to fruit, veg, meat, dairy, and pantry staples like flour and cornstarch. I don’t need to buy anyone 25 frozen pizzas and 5 bags of Doritos just to pay for those healthcare bills in 10 years.

You are a first class douche. Cheap food keeps people fed.

All the things you list are VERY expensive now and you need a full kitchen and the utensils and spices to cook with them.

Go crawl back under your rock.

Disagree. Low income people and kids have the highest rate of obesity.
More snap dollars are spent on soda than anything else. People are lazy and don’t want to cook- not just poor people, most people. Many poor people in other countries manage to live on rice and beans, simple foods. American poor people live on frozen pizzas and Doritos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

As a nutritionist, I used to think the same way you do. However, after working with patients and seeing the faces of those on snap, it’s not that easy. Many are elderly, unable to afford a working stove or unable to lift a pot of water to boil rice. Many are children, whose parent works two jobs to stay eligible for the snap. No time to cook, and often kids unable to safely cook for themselves unless it can be microwaved.
There are many who have a plot in community gardens, make their own bread, and eat rice and beans instead of expensive meats. But these are the young healthy ones who are not on snap for long.
For those in urban settings, corner stores rarely offer produce. Shelf stable processed food are a more reliable investment for the store owner.
For those in rural settings, which represent the majority of snap recipients, stores are often a long drive away and trips are not often enough to get produce or short lived goods. Living near a farm doesn’t mean you actually have access to what’s grown on that farm. Most farms are corn, wheat, soy. Not the readily edible kind.

This is literally dollar general’s whole business model. They build them either in the middle of nowhere or in low income neighborhoods where there isn’t a lot of grocery options. If you have limited transportation a lot of people buy their food from there, and they don’t sell fresh meat or vegetables.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Food Stamps (SNAP benefits) can’t be paid out if Congress does not appropriate funds for November.

What will happen if 40+ million people don’t get food stamps about 10 days from now? Total monthly benefits are just under $8 billlion.

They willingly traded food stamps for a gold ballroom. Who needs food when the cabal of vainglorious billionaires and their Orange Lard Ball of Stinking Rancid Grease can dance all night in a gaudy, garish plastic gold ballroom!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food Stamps (SNAP benefits) can’t be paid out if Congress does not appropriate funds for November.

What will happen if 40+ million people don’t get food stamps about 10 days from now? Total monthly benefits are just under $8 billlion.

They willingly traded food stamps for a gold ballroom. Who needs food when the cabal of vainglorious billionaires and their Orange Lard Ball of Stinking Rancid Grease can dance all night in a gaudy, garish plastic gold ballroom!

Well, if people voted for this, then let it be. I don't understand why democrats are so triggered by this? According to Democrats, it is MAGAs who are on food stamps, so let them live with consequences of their vote. All good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They'll have to get a job. Stop mooching.

This. Done with the mooching. Keep it closed for a year, give them plenty of time to job hunt.

Spoken like a true uneducated MAGA

As a MAGA, if you think Food Stamp issues are only going to hurt inner city Blacks, think again:

37% of SNAP recipients are White Americans.

26% Black Americans.

16% Hispanic Americans.

4% Asian Americans.

2% Native Americans.

Remaining percentage - Not identified.

A country as wealthy as America has no excuse for people going hungry, NONE. If they can give billions of tax subsidies to their billionaire buddies, then they can afford to feed poor Americans.

You have to remember what the Republican Party is all about these days. It's a combination of Ayn Rand objectivism and Vladimir Putin style plutocracy. The death of people on SNAP is the entire point of the Republican Party. It's something to be celebrated. It means things are working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Asian and African countries, low income people cook from scratch and the meals are simple and mostly healthy, they simply can't afford processed or pre packaged food. You will be hard pressed to find a low income Asian who is overweight or obese, They do however have the cooking skills thanks to their parents or extended family. I have always wondered (not in a judgmental way) why poor Americans don't have basic cooking skills when they are the ones who stand to benefit the most from such skills.

Yes, I have seen the aforementioned EBT grocery hauls on TikTok, all the women have functioning kitchens, it seems for a lot of people buying processed and pre packaged food is a choice.

It doesn't take a lot of expense to cook fresh beans, rice with a small salad or some roasted vegetables. Lots of vegetables are not expensive. Pasta cooked in olive oil with come sausages, garlic + bell pepper is a $10 meal for the family. Good oil can be bought in bulk on EBT. Two packets of linguine 99c each at Trader Joe's, chicken sausage $4.99, 1 head of garlic @ 30c, 2 bell peppers for $1.50 and oil + seasonings bought in bulk which can last months.

As a nutritionist, I used to think the same way you do. However, after working with patients and seeing the faces of those on snap, it’s not that easy. Many are elderly, unable to afford a working stove or unable to lift a pot of water to boil rice. Many are children, whose parent works two jobs to stay eligible for the snap. No time to cook, and often kids unable to safely cook for themselves unless it can be microwaved.
There are many who have a plot in community gardens, make their own bread, and eat rice and beans instead of expensive meats. But these are the young healthy ones who are not on snap for long.
For those in urban settings, corner stores rarely offer produce. Shelf stable processed food are a more reliable investment for the store owner.
For those in rural settings, which represent the majority of snap recipients, stores are often a long drive away and trips are not often enough to get produce or short lived goods. Living near a farm doesn’t mean you actually have access to what’s grown on that farm. Most farms are corn, wheat, soy. Not the readily edible kind.

This is literally dollar general’s whole business model. They build them either in the middle of nowhere or in low income neighborhoods where there isn’t a lot of grocery options. If you have limited transportation a lot of people buy their food from there, and they don’t sell fresh meat or vegetables.

They don’t sell them because people won’t buy them. Not when they can buy crap instead. If snap was limited to ONLY milk, fruit, vegetables, cheese, eggs, beans, rice, oatmeal- you can bet Dollar General and gas stations would start stocking these items

[Anonymous]

Trump wants us all to die….period