$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Expect this to be walked back in exchange for concessions by India; or maybe the big 4 get a waiver if the administration gets an ownership stake


I truly hope this is not just a bait and switch.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My concern would be a further shift to L1/L2 visas to get around the $100,000 fee.

L1 are for intra-company transfers and there are no quota and no wage requirement, unlike with H1-Bs. In 2023 almost 80k L1 visas were issued.


Let’s crack down on those too. There are way too many unemployed kids with good STEM degrees to be handing out all these visas still.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expect this to be walked back in exchange for concessions by India; or maybe the big 4 get a waiver if the administration gets an ownership stake


I truly hope this is not just a bait and switch.



It's already walked back. The Trump administration is saying the plain language of the executive order is not what was meant.
Anonymous
Is there any rule to control the companies to outsource the number of jobs, I heard the ratio is 10-20 % US and the rest of the jobs are outsourced . This way we lose the jobs and the tax as well.
Anonymous
There are about 65000 H1b issued every year. The simple solution here would be to issue the visas to the highest paying contracts to ensure the most valuable talent is brought to the USA.. It should not be used to bring in cheap labour. But selling the visa for $100K will shift the focus from value and competency to cost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are about 65000 H1b issued every year. The simple solution here would be to issue the visas to the highest paying contracts to ensure the most valuable talent is brought to the USA.. It should not be used to bring in cheap labour. But selling the visa for $100K will shift the focus from value and competency to cost.


Wow! what an uniformed post.

Let's just suppose that were true, we could cancel the entire program, and no one would miss it would they?

Year “Initial Approvals” Cap (85,000) “Cap Exempt” (≈ Initial − 85,000)
FY 2022 132,657 85,000 ~ 47,657 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2023 118,948 85,000 ~ 33,948 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2024 141,207 85,000 ~ 56,207 Guest Worker Visas

Note: “Cap Exempt” here just means “initial approvals beyond the 85,000 cap subject limit.” But that doesn’t necessarily map exactly to “academic/non-profit / university” approvals. Some of that cap-exempt portion may be from other cap-exemption sources or other employer categories, and not every academic/non-profit H-1B is necessarily cap-exempt depending on the employer and role. Also, some academic/non-profit initial petitions may still be counted under the cap if the employer doesn’t meet the exemption criteria.

So there were a total of intitial + renewal
FY 2024
427,091 (filed) 399,402 (approved).

Those are just people actively on Visas, cumulatively there are millions of people on visas and that have gotten green cards, to the tune of a significant fraction of our population, to the point where certain areas are completely dominated by skilled immigrants, Silicon Valley for example.

I digress, but in this day and age where information about the subject is so readily available. These sorts of *half-truths* are really not a credit to liberals or immigration advocates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are about 65000 H1b issued every year. The simple solution here would be to issue the visas to the highest paying contracts to ensure the most valuable talent is brought to the USA.. It should not be used to bring in cheap labour. But selling the visa for $100K will shift the focus from value and competency to cost.


Wow! what an uniformed post.

Let's just suppose that were true, we could cancel the entire program, and no one would miss it would they?

Year “Initial Approvals” Cap (85,000) “Cap Exempt” (≈ Initial − 85,000)
FY 2022 132,657 85,000 ~ 47,657 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2023 118,948 85,000 ~ 33,948 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2024 141,207 85,000 ~ 56,207 Guest Worker Visas

Note: “Cap Exempt” here just means “initial approvals beyond the 85,000 cap subject limit.” But that doesn’t necessarily map exactly to “academic/non-profit / university” approvals. Some of that cap-exempt portion may be from other cap-exemption sources or other employer categories, and not every academic/non-profit H-1B is necessarily cap-exempt depending on the employer and role. Also, some academic/non-profit initial petitions may still be counted under the cap if the employer doesn’t meet the exemption criteria.

So there were a total of intitial + renewal
FY 2024
427,091 (filed) 399,402 (approved).

Those are just people actively on Visas, cumulatively there are millions of people on visas and that have gotten green cards, to the tune of a significant fraction of our population, to the point where certain areas are completely dominated by skilled immigrants, Silicon Valley for example.

I digress, but in this day and age where information about the subject is so readily available. These sorts of *half-truths* are really not a credit to liberals or immigration advocates.


It was a Republican president (George Bush, Sr.) that signed the immigration law into effect that created the H1b visa program, not libersls. EOs are not a sufficient or longlasting fix for our immigration problems. If Trump was sincere about making lasting changes to our immigration laws—rather than being focused on immediate political expediency—he would work with Congress to get a bill passed. What better time in history than now when he controls all branches of government and the SC?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are about 65000 H1b issued every year. The simple solution here would be to issue the visas to the highest paying contracts to ensure the most valuable talent is brought to the USA.. It should not be used to bring in cheap labour. But selling the visa for $100K will shift the focus from value and competency to cost.


Wow! what an uniformed post.

Let's just suppose that were true, we could cancel the entire program, and no one would miss it would they?

Year “Initial Approvals” Cap (85,000) “Cap Exempt” (≈ Initial − 85,000)
FY 2022 132,657 85,000 ~ 47,657 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2023 118,948 85,000 ~ 33,948 Guest Worker Visas

FY 2024 141,207 85,000 ~ 56,207 Guest Worker Visas

Note: “Cap Exempt” here just means “initial approvals beyond the 85,000 cap subject limit.” But that doesn’t necessarily map exactly to “academic/non-profit / university” approvals. Some of that cap-exempt portion may be from other cap-exemption sources or other employer categories, and not every academic/non-profit H-1B is necessarily cap-exempt depending on the employer and role. Also, some academic/non-profit initial petitions may still be counted under the cap if the employer doesn’t meet the exemption criteria.

So there were a total of intitial + renewal
FY 2024
427,091 (filed) 399,402 (approved).

Those are just people actively on Visas, cumulatively there are millions of people on visas and that have gotten green cards, to the tune of a significant fraction of our population, to the point where certain areas are completely dominated by skilled immigrants, Silicon Valley for example.

I digress, but in this day and age where information about the subject is so readily available. These sorts of *half-truths* are really not a credit to liberals or immigration advocates.


It was a Republican president (George Bush, Sr.) that signed the immigration law into effect that created the H1b visa program, not libersls. EOs are not a sufficient or longlasting fix for our immigration problems. If Trump was sincere about making lasting changes to our immigration laws—rather than being focused on immediate political expediency—he would work with Congress to get a bill passed. What better time in history than now when he controls all branches of government and the SC?


agree Republicans are evil.

And yet it is the democrats that expand immigration which allows companies to stomp on workers , and they wonder why they lose Elections . Focus on US workers first and never lose. Become the party of labor again.

1.Biden refuses to mandate e-verify. there is no reason to require corporations to hire US workers. -https://www.governing.com/work/e-verify-creates-loophole-for-undocumented-workers-employers.html

2.Biden helps US companies replace US workers with cheap foreign labor by expanding H1B - https://www.axios.com/2022/01/12/h1b-visa-approval-rate-tech-biden-immigration

3.Biden expanded OPT to new job categories, this helps companies replace US workers with cheap foreign indentured servants - https://www.fragomen.com/insights/united-states-white-house-announces-expansion-of-stem-opt-program-and-other-initiatives-to-attract-stem-talent.html

F1 - Legal system requires F-1 students to remain with employer for approximately 7-12 years

4.Biden proposes to create brand new W-1 visa with unlimited Green Cards, because we mythically don't have enough workers in the US, we devalued a master with H1B, and now we will devalue PhDs with W-1 visas - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2022/01/27/house-adds-game-changing-visas-for-immigrant-startups-and-phds/?sh=500faa1810be

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Expect this to be walked back in exchange for concessions by India; or maybe the big 4 get a waiver if the administration gets an ownership stake


I truly hope this is not just a bait and switch.



It's already walked back. The Trump administration is saying the plain language of the executive order is not what was meant.


TACO

What else is new? Everything for Trump is negotiating via threats. He is proud of this.
Anonymous
Once there was a company that hired a foreigner on an #H1B visa as a manager.

Within a year, he fired all the Americans and replaced them with #H1B workers from his home country.

I know - because one of the fired Americans was me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Once there was a company that hired a foreigner on an #H1B visa as a manager.

Within a year, he fired all the Americans and replaced them with #H1B workers from his home country.

I know - because one of the fired Americans was me.
if you think this is going to help you and other Americab workers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

This is all a dog and pony show.
Anonymous
Backpedaling begins…

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Backpedaling begins…



There is zero political coherence across the spectrum that the business community can react to. His incompetence is just staggering. At this point, business leaders are just trying to get to 2028 intact.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with all of Trump's policies, but he has this one right.

i applaud Trump's effort to rein in a visa program that is harming highly skilled, highly intelligent American workers. Don't let anyone tell you we need the Indians because they are so much more talented than the American workers. That is a lie.

This is a program that is stealing jobs away from American employees while gifting immigrant employees with highly paid tech jobs. Jobs that were taken away from American employees.


Agreed but he’s doing it in his usual haphazard, disorganized way. It is been done more for its immediate effect and shock value than to bring about any lasting changes.

+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with all of Trump's policies, but he has this one right.

i applaud Trump's effort to rein in a visa program that is harming highly skilled, highly intelligent American workers. Don't let anyone tell you we need the Indians because they are so much more talented than the American workers. That is a lie.

This is a program that is stealing jobs away from American employees while gifting immigrant employees with highly paid tech jobs. Jobs that were taken away from American employees.


Agreed but he’s doing it in his usual haphazard, disorganized way. It is been done more for its immediate effect and shock value than to bring about any lasting changes.

+1


Trump said corporate lawyers and "others with agendas" misinterpreted his proclamation. Guess Lutnick has an agenda.
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