Georgia Hyundai Plant ICE Raid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're going to spin it as the fault of the contractors sneaking people into the US, I suppose. Newsweek article reports Hyundai promising to review its practices and policies regarding contractors, and Karoline will explain that we really helped Hyundai in the end besides protecting vulnerable foreign workers.

But previously I had seen reports that Hyundai was saying US was causing gridlock in the business visa system forcing them to rely on other types of visas with hopes they could clear the gridlock

A good friend of mine is the PM for the software (non-product) system for another company building an EV factory and he constantly has to send people back to their home country because the US government is so screwed up waiting for a legitimate renewal would cause a visa violation.

Maybe he should try hiring US citizens.

They’re too dumb that’s why they need to import workers.

Or are all the parts and instructions and code notes written in Korean? I don't think any US schools teach Korean.

FCPS does. My DD went to Chantilly and the Academy did. She took a year, BTW.

Does not solve the problem. Obviously foreign companies investing in the US will need to send in some of their nationals to set up operations, so maybe your daughter can get a job there with her one year of high school Korean language skills (but don't worry, her Korean boss will likely have better English skills than most of her classmates).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love this for MAGA
No more jobs in GA.

Your blue state tax dollars will help pay their unemployment/Medicaid etc. Everyone loses.

Big. Beautiful. Bill.

So yeah— not so much.

Hospitals are require to treat the sick no matter what. We all pay the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WSJ:

“Hyundai and LG Energy each filed a complaint to South Korea’s Foreign Ministry in April and May, asking for help with U.S. visa issues, according to documents obtained by ruling party lawmaker Kim Young-bae. Seoul’s Foreign Ministry said it had reached out to the Trump administration 52 times during his second term to discuss visa issues for Korean businesses.

“Asian companies investing in America have faced trouble in receiving enough work visas for personnel needed to get the U.S. plants running, amid a shortage of skilled American technical workers.”

I am tired of hearing about the shortage of the skilled American worker. Maybe if they reached out 52 times the answer was- you can't bring in almost 500 international workers to assemble a plant with a total of 1500 workers getting the plant ready. Maybe the US government realized they weren't struggling to find skilled workers. They’re struggling to find people willing to work under the pay and conditions they’re offering.

And think logically. If they are admitting they reached out 52 times, then they absolutely realized most of the almost 500 workers were not allowed to work on the entry permit ETSA / B-1 visas. If it was allowed then why would they reach out so many times?

There was once a time when a union job in the automobile industry was the gold standard for the working class in America. Now foreign manufacturers are setting up in "right to work" / anti-union states in the south.

Hyundai was sued by the Labor Department under Biden in 2024 for using underage workers. A Reuters investigation revealed the widespread and illegal employment of migrant children in Alabama factories supplying parts to both Hyundai and sister brand Kia.

Reuters learned of underage workers at Hyundai supplier SMART, in Luverne, Alabama, following the brief disappearance in February 2022 of a Guatemalan migrant child from her family's home in Alabama. The 13-year-old girl and her two brothers, aged 12 and 15 at the time, all worked at the plant in 2022 and were not going to school, according to people familiar with their employment.

At the time, SMART was a Hyundai subsidiary.The Labor Department said that at the time of the alleged violations, SMART's operations were "so integrated" with Hyundai's main manufacturing plant in Montgomery that "the two companies were a single employer for purposes of liability" under U.S. labor law. And that along with the staffing firm, the three companies "jointly employed" the minor.

[Anonymous]

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/cars/2025/09/12/south-korean-factory-workers-flee-spring-hill-tennessee-hyundai-raid/86096234007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=false&gca-epti=z113128p000150c000150u002828e000200v113128&gca-ft=30&gca-ds=sophi&sltsgmt=0154_C

Other korean LG energy solutions workers in Tennessee are preemptively leaving.

Can someone explain how shunning foreign investment and job creation is making our country great?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/cars/2025/09/12/south-korean-factory-workers-flee-spring-hill-tennessee-hyundai-raid/86096234007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=false&gca-epti=z113128p000150c000150u002828e000200v113128&gca-ft=30&gca-ds=sophi&sltsgmt=0154_C

Other korean LG energy solutions workers in Tennessee are preemptively leaving.

Can someone explain how shunning foreign investment and job creation is making our country great?

They did not pay Trump. If you do not pay he will shut you down. Also Trump does not want any green energy systems in this country. Trump has plans in the works to remove Hoover Dam, Grand Coulee Dam, etc. It’s all got to go!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WSJ:

“Hyundai and LG Energy each filed a complaint to South Korea’s Foreign Ministry in April and May, asking for help with U.S. visa issues, according to documents obtained by ruling party lawmaker Kim Young-bae. Seoul’s Foreign Ministry said it had reached out to the Trump administration 52 times during his second term to discuss visa issues for Korean businesses.

“Asian companies investing in America have faced trouble in receiving enough work visas for personnel needed to get the U.S. plants running, amid a shortage of skilled American technical workers.”

I am tired of hearing about the shortage of the skilled American worker. Maybe if they reached out 52 times the answer was- you can't bring in almost 500 international workers to assemble a plant with a total of 1500 workers getting the plant ready. Maybe the US government realized they weren't struggling to find skilled workers. They’re struggling to find people willing to work under the pay and conditions they’re offering.

And think logically. If they are admitting they reached out 52 times, then they absolutely realized most of the almost 500 workers were not allowed to work on the entry permit ETSA / B-1 visas. If it was allowed then why would they reach out so many times?

There was once a time when a union job in the automobile industry was the gold standard for the working class in America. Now foreign manufacturers are setting up in "right to work" / anti-union states in the south.

Hyundai was sued by the Labor Department under Biden in 2024 for using underage workers. A Reuters investigation revealed the widespread and illegal employment of migrant children in Alabama factories supplying parts to both Hyundai and sister brand Kia.

Reuters learned of underage workers at Hyundai supplier SMART, in Luverne, Alabama, following the brief disappearance in February 2022 of a Guatemalan migrant child from her family's home in Alabama. The 13-year-old girl and her two brothers, aged 12 and 15 at the time, all worked at the plant in 2022 and were not going to school, according to people familiar with their employment.

At the time, SMART was a Hyundai subsidiary.The Labor Department said that at the time of the alleged violations, SMART's operations were "so integrated" with Hyundai's main manufacturing plant in Montgomery that "the two companies were a single employer for purposes of liability" under U.S. labor law. And that along with the staffing firm, the three companies "jointly employed" the minor.

You do not know what you are posting about. All the Hyundai Korean workers were in this country temporarily and on visas. They are there to assemble, install and get the plant up in running while train US workers. US workers do not have the skills or knowledge base to assemble the machinery and over see the software for these types of plants.

Though that does not matter anymore. These plants and other foreign manufacturing investments in the US will be shut down within a year or two. These raid showed that Trump will not work with foreign investors in the US. Also because of the complexity of the manufacturing process many components ship across the border 3-5 times. It is cheaper to set up a manufacturing plant outside the US, ship to the US and pay the tariff once instead a few 100 times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WSJ:

“Hyundai and LG Energy each filed a complaint to South Korea’s Foreign Ministry in April and May, asking for help with U.S. visa issues, according to documents obtained by ruling party lawmaker Kim Young-bae. Seoul’s Foreign Ministry said it had reached out to the Trump administration 52 times during his second term to discuss visa issues for Korean businesses.

“Asian companies investing in America have faced trouble in receiving enough work visas for personnel needed to get the U.S. plants running, amid a shortage of skilled American technical workers.”

I am tired of hearing about the shortage of the skilled American worker. Maybe if they reached out 52 times the answer was- you can't bring in almost 500 international workers to assemble a plant with a total of 1500 workers getting the plant ready. Maybe the US government realized they weren't struggling to find skilled workers. They’re struggling to find people willing to work under the pay and conditions they’re offering.

And think logically. If they are admitting they reached out 52 times, then they absolutely realized most of the almost 500 workers were not allowed to work on the entry permit ETSA / B-1 visas. If it was allowed then why would they reach out so many times?

There was once a time when a union job in the automobile industry was the gold standard for the working class in America. Now foreign manufacturers are setting up in "right to work" / anti-union states in the south.

Hyundai was sued by the Labor Department under Biden in 2024 for using underage workers. A Reuters investigation revealed the widespread and illegal employment of migrant children in Alabama factories supplying parts to both Hyundai and sister brand Kia.

Reuters learned of underage workers at Hyundai supplier SMART, in Luverne, Alabama, following the brief disappearance in February 2022 of a Guatemalan migrant child from her family's home in Alabama. The 13-year-old girl and her two brothers, aged 12 and 15 at the time, all worked at the plant in 2022 and were not going to school, according to people familiar with their employment.

At the time, SMART was a Hyundai subsidiary.The Labor Department said that at the time of the alleged violations, SMART's operations were "so integrated" with Hyundai's main manufacturing plant in Montgomery that "the two companies were a single employer for purposes of liability" under U.S. labor law. And that along with the staffing firm, the three companies "jointly employed" the minor.

You do not know what you are posting about. All the Hyundai Korean workers were in this country temporarily and on visas. They are there to assemble, install and get the plant up in running while train US workers. US workers do not have the skills or knowledge base to assemble the machinery and over see the software for these types of plants.

Though that does not matter anymore. These plants and other foreign manufacturing investments in the US will be shut down within a year or two. These raid showed that Trump will not work with foreign investors in the US. Also because of the complexity of the manufacturing process many components ship across the border 3-5 times. It is cheaper to set up a manufacturing plant outside the US, ship to the US and pay the tariff once instead a few 100 times.

It is pay to play, and the South Koreans were not going to pay. Pretty simple.

[Anonymous]

This is really really bad in South Korea. The Technicians are home and sharing their horror stories of how Trump and Republicans treated them. These prison are horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WSJ:

“Hyundai and LG Energy each filed a complaint to South Korea’s Foreign Ministry in April and May, asking for help with U.S. visa issues, according to documents obtained by ruling party lawmaker Kim Young-bae. Seoul’s Foreign Ministry said it had reached out to the Trump administration 52 times during his second term to discuss visa issues for Korean businesses.

“Asian companies investing in America have faced trouble in receiving enough work visas for personnel needed to get the U.S. plants running, amid a shortage of skilled American technical workers.”

I am tired of hearing about the shortage of the skilled American worker. Maybe if they reached out 52 times the answer was- you can't bring in almost 500 international workers to assemble a plant with a total of 1500 workers getting the plant ready. Maybe the US government realized they weren't struggling to find skilled workers. They’re struggling to find people willing to work under the pay and conditions they’re offering.

And think logically. If they are admitting they reached out 52 times, then they absolutely realized most of the almost 500 workers were not allowed to work on the entry permit ETSA / B-1 visas. If it was allowed then why would they reach out so many times?

There was once a time when a union job in the automobile industry was the gold standard for the working class in America. Now foreign manufacturers are setting up in "right to work" / anti-union states in the south.

Hyundai was sued by the Labor Department under Biden in 2024 for using underage workers. A Reuters investigation revealed the widespread and illegal employment of migrant children in Alabama factories supplying parts to both Hyundai and sister brand Kia.

Reuters learned of underage workers at Hyundai supplier SMART, in Luverne, Alabama, following the brief disappearance in February 2022 of a Guatemalan migrant child from her family's home in Alabama. The 13-year-old girl and her two brothers, aged 12 and 15 at the time, all worked at the plant in 2022 and were not going to school, according to people familiar with their employment.

At the time, SMART was a Hyundai subsidiary.The Labor Department said that at the time of the alleged violations, SMART's operations were "so integrated" with Hyundai's main manufacturing plant in Montgomery that "the two companies were a single employer for purposes of liability" under U.S. labor law. And that along with the staffing firm, the three companies "jointly employed" the minor.

[Anonymous]

Americans shooting themselves in the foot.

Another one bites the dust.

Laughing stock of the world.

So. Much. Winning.

[Anonymous]

Looks like 18 billion in defense spending is staying north of the border with some help from the South Koreans. First many to leave the US high and dry. Good less job for maga in defense contracting. They can go get government work at ICE.

Babcock Canada and Hanwha Ocean sign teaming agreement for Canadian submarine project.
The CPSP was described as one of the largest conventional submarine procurements in modern history. Hanwha Ocean was recently selected by the Government of Canada as one of two qualified suppliers for the programme.

To ensure the submarines entered service by 2035 and operated a fleet of up to twelve vessels, major investment and commitment would be required during construction. Collaboration between Canada, the submarine builder, and an experienced in-service support contractor was expected to prepare the country to sustain the future fleet and deliver operational availability across its coasts

https://defence-industry.eu/babcock-canada-and-hanwha-ocean-sign-teaming-agreement-for-canadian-submarine-project/

[Anonymous]

The rest of the world is getting their military aircraft and military equipment from non-Us sources because no one trusts the Trump government to keep its word, or be able to supply parts in the future without extortion etc.

So.Much.Winning

[Anonymous]

More genius moves from the Trump regime. They’re brown so obviously they should be subjected to inhumane treatment.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-14/us-official-offers-regrets-over-detention-of-south-koreans

[Anonymous]

I don't want to but words in anyone's mouth, but I would like to get some clarity you know certainty about what Democrats think would have been the best way to handle this situation, so as to form a clear comparison.

This is the context

Evidently, Hyundai was warned, they had issues a number of times. They had applied and had been denied. They had a history of labor violations, child labor etc.

So, I gather the chamber of commerce's or Democrats plan here would be to look the other way, go out of their way to help them comply, keep it out of the news, cover it up if necessary and hide any malfeasance.

Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous]

This is going to hurt Alabama too. They’ll get what they voted for.