Georgia Hyundai Plant ICE Raid

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Hyundai may want to come back, but good luck to them finding anyone who will go.

Then maybe they will actually hire Americans. I hate Trump but I can't believe everyone is buying all 400 workers were in fact so specialized that no American could do the job. The actual visa the Koreans were on has not been revealed. The New York Times interviewed one worker, "Nate Cho, an HVAC guru," who also worked at a Samsung semiconductor factory in Texas.

I am not sure what an HVAC guru is or how that differs from a Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning regular worker but an earlier article in the NYT explains that local unions for a while have been complaining about American not getting hired and blue collar workers from Korea getting hired instead to do manual labor.

Barry Zeigler, business manager of Local 188, a union that represents plumbers, pipe fitters, welders and HVAC service technicians for 15 counties in Georgia, said South Koreans were working as welders and pipe fitters in the Georgia plant — jobs that he said should have been given to Americans. He said he had visited the plant in the past, adding that about 65 members of his union were hired by subcontractors to lay pipes there, but were let go a few months ago.

“People think the Koreans are here to do a special job; that’s BS,” he said, adding that politicians had turned a deaf ear to his complaints about the factory until the raid.

Go away MAGA. These were highly trained engineers. They were doing things no maga idiot like yourself could even imagine. The raid was a total f up by you people.

America is well known to have engineers and a large auto industry. Why do you believe that there isn't a pipeline of American talent for this plant?

DP. This plant manufactures EVs and EV batteries. The US does not have that technology knowledge or the engineers needed to assemble and run the machinery. This is all proprietary machinery and software. All the major US car manufacturers are involved with joint ventures with do the same thing. The difference is like making rotary phones vs iPhones.

All these Koreans had the proper visas approved by the US government. Trump hates the South Koreans, the governor of Georgia, both senators from Georgia, EVs and EV batteries. This is why the plant was targeted. Trump wants all these plants shut down.

Georgia is an EV hub, what are you even talking about?

The most popular EV, Tesla, has several manufacturing facilities in the US.

You're just wrong. Hyundai isn't a market leader in EVs, especially not compared to Tesla.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgia’s governor is begging the Koreans to come back. One of the major problems is the employees do not want to return. They had the correct visas and were arrested.

Uh, no he’s not. Why would he when they’ve been back at the plant for a week now? The Koreans fixed the issue and returned.

No they haven't. The latest is that the plant's opening has been pushed back at least 2-3 months and that's only under the best of circumstances, but those best circumstances don't exist as many key issues caused by the raid still haven't been resolved. Hyundai does not have US workers with the necessary expertise. The Koreans who were detained were supposed to train Americans and help them gain that expertise but that's now an issue. The visa issues still haven't fully been resolved. The Koreans who were detained had valid visas and were legally here. Now many of them don't want to return. Also, plant construction and equipment installation is stalled because Hyundai's experts are off the job. The whole project is at risk.

That's only because the managers want to throw a fit. They could send Americans over to Korea to get trained, if that were actually the bottle neck.

So you admit, it hadn’t been reopened

Ah baby capitalists throwing a tantrum won't reopen it unless they get their way.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna234860

Hyundai may want to come back, but good luck to them finding anyone who will go.

Then maybe they will actually hire Americans. I hate Trump but I can't believe everyone is buying all 400 workers were in fact so specialized that no American could do the job. The actual visa the Koreans were on has not been revealed. The New York Times interviewed one worker, "Nate Cho, an HVAC guru," who also worked at a Samsung semiconductor factory in Texas.

I am not sure what an HVAC guru is or how that differs from a Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning regular worker but an earlier article in the NYT explains that local unions for a while have been complaining about American not getting hired and blue collar workers from Korea getting hired instead to do manual labor.

Barry Zeigler, business manager of Local 188, a union that represents plumbers, pipe fitters, welders and HVAC service technicians for 15 counties in Georgia, said South Koreans were working as welders and pipe fitters in the Georgia plant — jobs that he said should have been given to Americans. He said he had visited the plant in the past, adding that about 65 members of his union were hired by subcontractors to lay pipes there, but were let go a few months ago.

“People think the Koreans are here to do a special job; that’s BS,” he said, adding that politicians had turned a deaf ear to his complaints about the factory until the raid.

Go away MAGA. These were highly trained engineers. They were doing things no maga idiot like yourself could even imagine. The raid was a total f up by you people.

America is well known to have engineers and a large auto industry. Why do you believe that there isn't a pipeline of American talent for this plant?

DP. This plant manufactures EVs and EV batteries. The US does not have that technology knowledge or the engineers needed to assemble and run the machinery. This is all proprietary machinery and software. All the major US car manufacturers are involved with joint ventures with do the same thing. The difference is like making rotary phones vs iPhones.

All these Koreans had the proper visas approved by the US government. Trump hates the South Koreans, the governor of Georgia, both senators from Georgia, EVs and EV batteries. This is why the plant was targeted. Trump wants all these plants shut down.

Georgia is an EV hub, what are you even talking about?

The most popular EV, Tesla, has several manufacturing facilities in the US.

You're just wrong. Hyundai isn't a market leader in EVs, especially not compared to Tesla.

Tesla has dominant market share but Hyundai is currently stronger than GM, Ford, VW etc with consistent year over year gains, whereas the others have been struggling.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgia’s governor is begging the Koreans to come back. One of the major problems is the employees do not want to return. They had the correct visas and were arrested.

Uh, no he’s not. Why would he when they’ve been back at the plant for a week now? The Koreans fixed the issue and returned.

No they haven't. The latest is that the plant's opening has been pushed back at least 2-3 months and that's only under the best of circumstances, but those best circumstances don't exist as many key issues caused by the raid still haven't been resolved. Hyundai does not have US workers with the necessary expertise. The Koreans who were detained were supposed to train Americans and help them gain that expertise but that's now an issue. The visa issues still haven't fully been resolved. The Koreans who were detained had valid visas and were legally here. Now many of them don't want to return. Also, plant construction and equipment installation is stalled because Hyundai's experts are off the job. The whole project is at risk.

That's only because the managers want to throw a fit. They could send Americans over to Korea to get trained, if that were actually the bottle neck.

Why shouldn't they throw a fit? They laid out their plan, invested a ton of money into it, only to be screwed over by Trump's clown show ICE coming in after LEGAL workers. What happened is totally unreasonable and cost them a lot of time and money. ICE is the problem here, not "Hyundai managers."

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna234860

Hyundai may want to come back, but good luck to them finding anyone who will go.

Then maybe they will actually hire Americans. I hate Trump but I can't believe everyone is buying all 400 workers were in fact so specialized that no American could do the job. The actual visa the Koreans were on has not been revealed. The New York Times interviewed one worker, "Nate Cho, an HVAC guru," who also worked at a Samsung semiconductor factory in Texas.

I am not sure what an HVAC guru is or how that differs from a Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning regular worker but an earlier article in the NYT explains that local unions for a while have been complaining about American not getting hired and blue collar workers from Korea getting hired instead to do manual labor.

Barry Zeigler, business manager of Local 188, a union that represents plumbers, pipe fitters, welders and HVAC service technicians for 15 counties in Georgia, said South Koreans were working as welders and pipe fitters in the Georgia plant — jobs that he said should have been given to Americans. He said he had visited the plant in the past, adding that about 65 members of his union were hired by subcontractors to lay pipes there, but were let go a few months ago.

“People think the Koreans are here to do a special job; that’s BS,” he said, adding that politicians had turned a deaf ear to his complaints about the factory until the raid.

Go away MAGA. These were highly trained engineers. They were doing things no maga idiot like yourself could even imagine. The raid was a total f up by you people.

America is well known to have engineers and a large auto industry. Why do you believe that there isn't a pipeline of American talent for this plant?

DP. This plant manufactures EVs and EV batteries. The US does not have that technology knowledge or the engineers needed to assemble and run the machinery. This is all proprietary machinery and software. All the major US car manufacturers are involved with joint ventures with do the same thing. The difference is like making rotary phones vs iPhones.

All these Koreans had the proper visas approved by the US government. Trump hates the South Koreans, the governor of Georgia, both senators from Georgia, EVs and EV batteries. This is why the plant was targeted. Trump wants all these plants shut down.

Georgia is an EV hub, what are you even talking about?

The most popular EV, Tesla, has several manufacturing facilities in the US.

You're just wrong. Hyundai isn't a market leader in EVs, especially not compared to Tesla.

Tesla has dominant market share but Hyundai is currently stronger than GM, Ford, VW etc with consistent year over year gains, whereas the others have been struggling.

Your statement that there isn't any knowledge of EV manufacturing in the US is nevertheless absurd. In Georgia alone, Hyundai and Kia have existing EV plants and battery plants, and Rivian moved its HQ to Georgia. I'm sure there's a need to bring some workers from other parts of Hyundai- this is not uncommon for an international company. But Hyundai is not some fly by not operation that needs to sneak Korean engineers in illegally. They can use normal business visas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna234860

Hyundai may want to come back, but good luck to them finding anyone who will go.

Then maybe they will actually hire Americans. I hate Trump but I can't believe everyone is buying all 400 workers were in fact so specialized that no American could do the job. The actual visa the Koreans were on has not been revealed. The New York Times interviewed one worker, "Nate Cho, an HVAC guru," who also worked at a Samsung semiconductor factory in Texas.

I am not sure what an HVAC guru is or how that differs from a Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning regular worker but an earlier article in the NYT explains that local unions for a while have been complaining about American not getting hired and blue collar workers from Korea getting hired instead to do manual labor.

Barry Zeigler, business manager of Local 188, a union that represents plumbers, pipe fitters, welders and HVAC service technicians for 15 counties in Georgia, said South Koreans were working as welders and pipe fitters in the Georgia plant — jobs that he said should have been given to Americans. He said he had visited the plant in the past, adding that about 65 members of his union were hired by subcontractors to lay pipes there, but were let go a few months ago.

“People think the Koreans are here to do a special job; that’s BS,” he said, adding that politicians had turned a deaf ear to his complaints about the factory until the raid.

Go away MAGA. These were highly trained engineers. They were doing things no maga idiot like yourself could even imagine. The raid was a total f up by you people.

America is well known to have engineers and a large auto industry. Why do you believe that there isn't a pipeline of American talent for this plant?

DP. This plant manufactures EVs and EV batteries. The US does not have that technology knowledge or the engineers needed to assemble and run the machinery. This is all proprietary machinery and software. All the major US car manufacturers are involved with joint ventures with do the same thing. The difference is like making rotary phones vs iPhones.

All these Koreans had the proper visas approved by the US government. Trump hates the South Koreans, the governor of Georgia, both senators from Georgia, EVs and EV batteries. This is why the plant was targeted. Trump wants all these plants shut down.

Georgia is an EV hub, what are you even talking about?

The most popular EV, Tesla, has several manufacturing facilities in the US.

You're just wrong. Hyundai isn't a market leader in EVs, especially not compared to Tesla.

Tesla has dominant market share but Hyundai is currently stronger than GM, Ford, VW etc with consistent year over year gains, whereas the others have been struggling.

Your statement that there isn't any knowledge of EV manufacturing in the US is nevertheless absurd. In Georgia alone, Hyundai and Kia have existing EV plants and battery plants, and Rivian moved its HQ to Georgia. I'm sure there's a need to bring some workers from other parts of Hyundai- this is not uncommon for an international company. But Hyundai is not some fly by not operation that needs to sneak Korean engineers in illegally. They can use normal business visas.

DP. They had the correct visas. This is how they got in to the country. They took a plane, went through customs, immigration, border control, etc. and were allowed in the country to work at the plant. They all had the right visas, were allowed in the country and then were arrested.

Oh the US has no knowledge of EV manufacturing specially the batteries. All the US manufacturers rely on foreign companies and their engineers. Even Tesla imports 25-30% of its parts from over sea. Tesla sources a lot of its batteries from Panasonic, LG Energy Solution, and CATL.


Please just stop with your lies. You either do not understand hate happened or you are just pushing maga propaganda. Hyundai has backed out of investing 25 billion in the US. The plant in Georgia will be lucky to open because no US workers understand Hyundai’s machinery and software.