Is responsibility for your own bag too much to ask?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

Again you aren’t reading as this is not actually applicable to me I have never not been able to manage my own luggage. I have helped others who looked like they needed it though.

They bought the ticket same as you, they have every right to be there same as you. You are the one who feels entitled to a fight where no humans interact with each other besides the ones you approve of. Maybe you should stay home if you can’t handle it

Try expressing your rights to the flight attendant and see how that goes if nobody wants to lift your bag.

The flight attendant will gate check the bag not throw you off the plane

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

Wrong poster. Are you new to the internet?

You didn't specify that you were a new poster. You do know how this for site works, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

Wrong poster. Are you new to the internet?

You didn't specify that you were a new poster. You do know how this for site works, right?

It’s all anonymous, you realize that don’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

Wrong poster. Are you new to the internet?

You didn't specify that you were a new poster. You do know how this for site works, right?

It’s all anonymous, you realize that don’t you?

Which is why the convention is to specify when you're a new or different poster.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?

I’ll admit I got that detail wrong by slightly misreading (embedding quote below)

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

I don’t think it changes the substance of my feedback/criticism

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

Wrong poster. Are you new to the internet?

You didn't specify that you were a new poster. You do know how this for site works, right?

It’s all anonymous, you realize that don’t you?

Which is why the convention is to specify when you're a new or different poster.

You don’t make the rules here or on airplanes.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

Again you aren’t reading as this is not actually applicable to me I have never not been able to manage my own luggage. I have helped others who looked like they needed it though.

They bought the ticket same as you, they have every right to be there same as you. You are the one who feels entitled to a fight where no humans interact with each other besides the ones you approve of. Maybe you should stay home if you can’t handle it

Try expressing your rights to the flight attendant and see how that goes if nobody wants to lift your bag.

The flight attendant will gate check the bag not throw you off the plane

That isn't what generally happens. Generally what happens is that the flight attendant apologizes, says they can't lift it, and someone kind hears and comes to help. Because it's only on DCUM that most people are a-holes. In real life they aren't.

I sometimes travel with groups of people who can't lift their luggage. (e.g. leading trips for elderly or disabled people). We preboard, and I help people. I have never gotten to help everyone, because people realize what is going on and start helping.

The thing that's important is that people who can't lift their luggage, for whatever reason, ask for preboarding. Because the process is much easier when the aisles aren't crowded.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

People with disabilities have the right to accommodations that allow them access to things that are available to the general public, including air travel.

The Air Carrier Access Act is the law that spells this out for traveling by air.

Again trying to use disabled folks’ struggle to justify your laziness. It’s actually disgusting.

What are you talking about?

We are talking about whether people who can't lift luggage to the height of the bins have the right to fly with luggage. Those people are generally people with disabilities. Using disabled folks struggles to justify accomodations for disabled folks is not disgusting.

They. Can. Check. Their. Bags.

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. I mean as a 5'1" person I can technically lift my fully packed hard case carry-on into the overhead but it is sometimes a struggle. Thankfully there is always a guy around who likes to feel useful.

This. I'm a small petite woman. I can lift my own bag. I've never had trouble with a man not offering to help me. I find it nice. I can imagine if you're older it would be difficult. I'm sure a flight attendant would help you if asked nicely.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

People with disabilities have the right to accommodations that allow them access to things that are available to the general public, including air travel.

The Air Carrier Access Act is the law that spells this out for traveling by air.

Again trying to use disabled folks’ struggle to justify your laziness. It’s actually disgusting.

What are you talking about?

We are talking about whether people who can't lift luggage to the height of the bins have the right to fly with luggage. Those people are generally people with disabilities. Using disabled folks struggles to justify accomodations for disabled folks is not disgusting.

They. Can. Check. Their. Bags.

They can, but they aren't required to. Just like you could drive or not travel, but you aren't required to.

They may have good reasons for wanting to keep their luggage close, just like other passengers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?

I’ll admit I got that detail wrong by slightly misreading (embedding quote below)

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

I don’t think it changes the substance of my feedback/criticism

So you overreacted to the idea that pointed out some things can be purchased on the other side of security if needed and didn’t justify bringing an excessive amount of things in a carryon that was beyond the capabilities of the traveler? Also what if you need all of this excess at a time when turbulence is happening and you can’t get it? An under-seat bag of essentials makes more sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. I mean as a 5'1" person I can technically lift my fully packed hard case carry-on into the overhead but it is sometimes a struggle. Thankfully there is always a guy around who likes to feel useful.

This. I'm a small petite woman. I can lift my own bag. I've never had trouble with a man not offering to help me. I find it nice. I can imagine if you're older it would be difficult. I'm sure a flight attendant would help you if asked nicely.

My parents are older and no longer bring large bags on board. They have adjusted their travel realities to their current situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?

I’ll admit I got that detail wrong by slightly misreading (embedding quote below)

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

I don’t think it changes the substance of my feedback/criticism

So you overreacted to the idea that pointed out some things can be purchased on the other side of security if needed and didn’t justify bringing an excessive amount of things in a carryon that was beyond the capabilities of the traveler? Also what if you need all of this excess at a time when turbulence is happening and you can’t get it? An under-seat bag of essentials makes more sense.

As someone who once got caught for 12 hours on a layover, because my flight was delayed, with an infant who could only consume prescription formula, and who required both a nebulizer and a feeding pump, I was very glad I had extra diapers, formula, clean outfits, and a nebulizer in my carry on overhead. That doesn't mean that I didn't also have one outfit, a few diapers, and other things I might need during the flight in my personal item at my feet. It's not either or.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?

I’ll admit I got that detail wrong by slightly misreading (embedding quote below)

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

I don’t think it changes the substance of my feedback/criticism

So you overreacted to the idea that pointed out some things can be purchased on the other side of security if needed and didn’t justify bringing an excessive amount of things in a carryon that was beyond the capabilities of the traveler? Also what if you need all of this excess at a time when turbulence is happening and you can’t get it? An under-seat bag of essentials makes more sense.

I don’t think I overreacted, that is your judgement. And I have responded far more calmly than you have.

Many posters have pointed out the importance of having a comprehensive bag if traveling with children (I was once stranded in nyc overnight without my luggage after missing a connection with two children under three and it was crucially important to have the basics). An airport is a terrible place to shop where everything is significantly more expensive and generally crappy quality, it’s an absurd suggestion. And would mean people were just walking with shopping bags instead of an organized suitcase.

You clearly don’t understand the complexities of traveling with kids if you cannot understand this. Or you are so wealthy as to not understand most Americans at all.

And generally this is not beyond the abilities of the traveler, just sometimes beyond the ability of one adult to manage at optimal efficiency. So others offer to help or they wait until the parents disabled person manages it.