Is responsibility for your own bag too much to ask?

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There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

If they ended up on their deathbed because they hurt themselves helping your lazy a$$ I bet they would.

How many people have died from lifting a piece of luggage into the overhead bin? If you actually think that putting luggage into overhead bins is a life-threatening activity, then perhaps instead of advocating to take away the rights of disabled people, you should advocate for a redesign of airplan cabins?

Why do you think FAs aren’t allowed to assist pax with their bags?

Not because they are dying from lifting a single bag. Because over the course of a career lifting many bags put them at risk of repetitive stress injuries which would lead to workmen's comp claims.

Which doesn't apply to a traveler assisting one other traveler with their bag, unless they are flying multiple routes a day every day, like a flight attendant.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

People with disabilities have the right to accommodations that allow them access to things that are available to the general public, including air travel.

The Air Carrier Access Act is the law that spells this out for traveling by air.

Again trying to use disabled folks’ struggle to justify your laziness. It’s actually disgusting.

What are you talking about?

We are talking about whether people who can't lift luggage to the height of the bins have the right to fly with luggage. Those people are generally people with disabilities. Using disabled folks struggles to justify accomodations for disabled folks is not disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

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Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

But they are not generally a woman with a baby and toddler trying to bring the kitchen sink onto a plane.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a SOCIETY.

WTF is wrong with some of you people.

Okay, but why aren't the people who are unable to deal with overhead bags but carry them on anyway held to a different standard then everyone else? It's not like they are required to carry on. There is a whole system in place to aid people who can't handle carry ons, but so many choose to just use their own system, putting the responsibility on everyone else. Look, if there was are requirement to roll on a giant bag that barely meets the standards and these poor people were forced to do it, helping of course would be most people's response. But none of this what happening. Selfish people who feel they don't have to follow the rules hold up thousands and thousands of passengers a day. It has to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

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Anonymous wrote:There are disabled people out there who fly OP.

But they are not generally a woman with a baby and toddler trying to bring the kitchen sink onto a plane.

The "everything but a kitchen sink" thing is something that people looking to attack people who need help made up. A parent traveling alone with a child who is too young to be set down, is going to need diapers, possibly formula, etc . . . and is going to need help lifting that bag into the upper bin.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

A “right” to travel. There’s the entitlement. Where is this right spelled out exactly?

In the agreement they got when they paid for their seat on the airplane. What gives you the right to walk through the world without ever facing an administrative setback?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

Again you aren’t reading as this is not actually applicable to me I have never not been able to manage my own luggage. I have helped others who looked like they needed it though.

They bought the ticket same as you, they have every right to be there same as you. You are the one who feels entitled to a fight where no humans interact with each other besides the ones you approve of. Maybe you should stay home if you can’t handle it

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

You swore multiple times at a random person on the Internet in a thread started purely for the sake of whining about this. If you don't like my description of you, you should change yourself, because that's where the problem lies.

Wrong poster. Are you new to the internet?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

Again you aren’t reading as this is not actually applicable to me I have never not been able to manage my own luggage. I have helped others who looked like they needed it though.

They bought the ticket same as you, they have every right to be there same as you. You are the one who feels entitled to a fight where no humans interact with each other besides the ones you approve of. Maybe you should stay home if you can’t handle it

Try expressing your rights to the flight attendant and see how that goes if nobody wants to lift your bag.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a tall woman. I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly. I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.

Thank you. Lots of really selfish people around here. DH is very tall; I'm super short. DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top shelf. He's a kind person. My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her. Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate. Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.

Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport when you can bring extra. I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries. I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up. But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA.

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also has a right to travel and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge

Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.