Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

Anonymous
Israeli Mossad’s own motto says deception is ok. Their intelligence is as legit as Monopoly money
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2025-Unclassified-Report.pdf

The US annual intelligence threat assessment report from just very recently said that Iran had no intentions of getting nuclear weapons. So which do you believe? Our intelligence agencies or a country which has been lobbying to attack Iran for more than 40 years all while claiming they are very close to nuclear weapons.
I think that Israel has their own intelligence, generally considered to be the best in the world by friend and foe. Why would they listen to ours ?

Plus Iran is out there publicly saying “Death to America, the Great Satan”, forever. Why should they have nuclear weapons ? I hope Israel cleans house.


The best intelligence that missed a horde breaching their border with motorbikes and bulldozers?

Real winners here.


Lol, no one is stupid enough to believe that they wanted to to prevent October 7th.
Anonymous
In a world filled with lots of unlikable people, one group just cannot or will not relinquish the pole position. Year after year. It’s crazy.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2025-Unclassified-Report.pdf

The US annual intelligence threat assessment report from just very recently said that Iran had no intentions of getting nuclear weapons. So which do you believe? Our intelligence agencies or a country which has been lobbying to attack Iran for more than 40 years all while claiming they are very close to nuclear weapons.
I think that Israel has their own intelligence, generally considered to be the best in the world by friend and foe. Why would they listen to ours ?

Plus Iran is out there publicly saying “Death to America, the Great Satan”, forever. Why should they have nuclear weapons ? I hope Israel cleans house.


We hope so too. Can Israel take this on by themselves? TIA


They could, but it would be faster and more effective with assistance. The likely role of the U.S. will be supplemental air defense; the IDF can deliver ordnance by itself without much trouble, no B-52s are really needed. ISrael of course has nuclear weapons, too, but also has the restraint to not use them except in extremis, something which seems hardly likely the Iranians would do it they had such a capability.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump gave them the go ahead. Israel is doing the U.S.‘s dirty work. Iran cannot be a nuclear power.


Your an i@iot.


If you know anything about foreign affairs and the Middle East, you would know this is EXACTLY what happened. Trump wanted Israel to do this and we should all be giving Israel a big thank you for saving the western world. Believe me, you did not want Iran to have nukes. And if you say differently, you are completely out of touch with reality. Iran was days away from a nuclear weapon.


So far, the Middle East suffered from the western world a lot more than the other way round.


The Middle East and US were friends for centuries until the mid 20th century and still are friends today so “Islam hates us” doesn’t work unless Islam started in 1948. We know what caused the problem
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Anonymous wrote:Trump gave them the go ahead. Israel is doing the U.S.‘s dirty work. Iran cannot be a nuclear power.


Your an i@iot.


Oh, the sweet, sweet irony



Seriously though - you call people “idiot” for believing that Iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. So therefore you DO believe Iran should have nuclear weapons.


Explain yourself.


DP. I concur with the grammatically-challenged poster above because you are indeed an idiot who's been manipulated by fearmongering.

A sampling for you:

1992 – Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres: "Iran is expected to have nuclear weapons by 1999."

1995 – U.S. Defense Secretary William Perry: "Iran may be less than five years away from a nuclear weapon."

1998 – Former CIA Director Robert Gates: "Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and could have them in a few years."

2002 – Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon: "Iran is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons."

2005 – U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: "Iran's nuclear program is moving forward. We must act before it's too late."

2006 – Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: "Iran is months away from nuclear weapons capability."

2009 – U.S. President Barack Obama: "Iran may be one to two years away from developing a nuclear weapon."

2012 – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (UN speech): "Iran is a few months away from nuclear weapons capability."

2015 – U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry: "Iran is two months away from nuclear breakout."

2018 – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: "Iran lied about its nuclear program and is closer than ever to a bomb."

2020 – U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: "Iran is dangerously close to nuclear weapons capability."

2021 – Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz: "Iran is weeks away from enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels."

2022 – U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan: "Iran is approaching nuclear breakout."

2023 – Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett: "Iran is closer than ever to nuclear weapons."

2024 – U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken: "Iran is dangerously close to nuclear capability."


Oh you poor ignorant babycakes. You want Iran to have a nuclear bomb. You are in favor of Islamists having power over the west.


They’ve had nuclears for 20 years now, China and Russia have Muslim populations as well. Islam doesn’t scare us but if it scares Jews why did they move to that neighborhood?
China and Russia, are you joking ? All the Muslims in China are in work camps making Nike tennis shoes 18 hours a day. China’s not putting up Islam, they’re all atheist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Israeli Mossad’s own motto says deception is ok. Their intelligence is as legit as Monopoly money


Yet somehow they successfully managed the exploding pagers attack which precipitated the decapitation of Hezbollah, and the con which brought the Iranian air force together for convenient elimination. Seems pretty effective so far, but you must know better, certainly, despite all evidence to the contrary. Believe what you like, the rest of us will draw our own conclusions from the results obtained.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this an actual war or just Israeli shenanigans? So tired of it all.


The latter. Israel’s too chickenshit to actually go to war in Iran. They’re waiting for Iran to retaliate and “accidentally hit an American air base or something” some sort of false flag so President Bone Spurs can rally the troops.

I think the pressure to end the Ukraine Russia war is due to Trump knowing Iran is up next and he can’t do anything about it since he’s not the real president
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Israeli Mossad’s own motto says deception is ok. Their intelligence is as legit as Monopoly money


Yet somehow they successfully managed the exploding pagers attack which precipitated the decapitation of Hezbollah, and the con which brought the Iranian air force together for convenient elimination. Seems pretty effective so far, but you must know better, certainly, despite all evidence to the contrary. Believe what you like, the rest of us will draw our own conclusions from the results obtained.


The exploding pagers attack was an example of weakness on the part of Israel. It killed more civilians than anything and it showed Israel doesn’t have the stomach for boots on the ground only far off strikes from a guy on a desktop ordering hits.

It was well reported even by Reuters that they suffered major L’s during their 48 hour ground invasion of Lebanon days after 10/7 (you know, the invasion they cut and run from?)

10/7 showed Israel has weak ground game and it’s why they know they can’t enter Iran. They don’t even have the manpower to do it. The IDF is babysitting settlers in the West Bank and still in Gaza.

No war is won on technological grounds. You would think Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia would show this to people. These people are battle tested and not afraid to die. Like the Soviet general said about Afghanistan, how do you beat a guy who looks down the barrel of the gun and sees heaven? They would rather self immolate than lose their country to the West. Israel’s soldiers are disheartened by Netanyahu, Americans soldiers are even more disheartened by the entire ME. The fortitude and endurance is not there to fight a long drawn out war.
Anonymous
The American and Israeli war machine is evil and not the will of the people. We have no anti-war political option. I am ready to go full leftist if only someone can commit to dismantling the endless war funding
Anonymous
Israel is the small Satan.

Amerikka in the big Satan!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump gave them the go ahead. Israel is doing the U.S.‘s dirty work. Iran cannot be a nuclear power.


Your an i@iot.


Oh, the sweet, sweet irony



Seriously though - you call people “idiot” for believing that Iran should not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. So therefore you DO believe Iran should have nuclear weapons.


Explain yourself.


DP. I concur with the grammatically-challenged poster above because you are indeed an idiot who's been manipulated by fearmongering.

A sampling for you:

1992 – Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres: "Iran is expected to have nuclear weapons by 1999."

1995 – U.S. Defense Secretary William Perry: "Iran may be less than five years away from a nuclear weapon."

1998 – Former CIA Director Robert Gates: "Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and could have them in a few years."

2002 – Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon: "Iran is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons."

2005 – U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: "Iran's nuclear program is moving forward. We must act before it's too late."

2006 – Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: "Iran is months away from nuclear weapons capability."

2009 – U.S. President Barack Obama: "Iran may be one to two years away from developing a nuclear weapon."

2012 – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (UN speech): "Iran is a few months away from nuclear weapons capability."

2015 – U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry: "Iran is two months away from nuclear breakout."

2018 – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: "Iran lied about its nuclear program and is closer than ever to a bomb."

2020 – U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: "Iran is dangerously close to nuclear weapons capability."

2021 – Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz: "Iran is weeks away from enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels."

2022 – U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan: "Iran is approaching nuclear breakout."

2023 – Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett: "Iran is closer than ever to nuclear weapons."

2024 – U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken: "Iran is dangerously close to nuclear capability."


Oh you poor ignorant babycakes. You want Iran to have a nuclear bomb. You are in favor of Islamists having power over the west.


They’ve had nuclears for 20 years now, China and Russia have Muslim populations as well. Islam doesn’t scare us but if it scares Jews why did they move to that neighborhood?
China and Russia, are you joking ? All the Muslims in China are in work camps making Nike tennis shoes 18 hours a day. China’s not putting up Islam, they’re all atheist.


The Uyghur region is home to natural uranium. The Uyghurs are also put in work camps linked to uranium mining and they don’t get protection from radioactive material. They have 30% higher cancer rates due to the factories there. A third of China’s uranium comes from the Uyghur region
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The American and Israeli war machine is evil and not the will of the people. We have no anti-war political option. I am ready to go full leftist if only someone can commit to dismantling the endless war funding
Putin agrees with you, he has your same goal.

You already are a full leftist if that’s your thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The American and Israeli war machine is evil and not the will of the people. We have no anti-war political option. I am ready to go full leftist if only someone can commit to dismantling the endless war funding


Ironically, Bernie sanders and Jill Stein (two Jews!) were our last hope. Unfortunately, Jewish Americans like Debbie Wasserman Scam threw Bernie under the bus. The Hasbara set would rather have war than the first Jewish American president. They are not on code.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The American and Israeli war machine is evil and not the will of the people. We have no anti-war political option. I am ready to go full leftist if only someone can commit to dismantling the endless war funding


Ironically, Bernie sanders and Jill Stein (two Jews!) were our last hope. Unfortunately, Jewish Americans like Debbie Wasserman Scam threw Bernie under the bus. The Hasbara set would rather have war than the first Jewish American president. They are not on code.
Was this pre or post Oct. 7 for Bernie? His thinking may have changed.
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