Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.

International students are a major source of funding. They are almost all full pay (sometimes at higher rates than Americans) so they subsidize financial aid as well as their programs of study.

If the government were paying for universities - as it could and arguably should, so that everyone could have a low-cost or free education - then maybe we could talk about it. But as it is, limiting international students would just reduce what the university can afford to do for Americans.

I always love this argument - the rich foreigners are "full pay" - as if full pay is a good thing given the outrageous cost of a college education in the US. This is how you people get around admitting the middle class kids - just admit a few poor students and mix them in with the elitist snobs that can afford "full pay" and you're good!

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don't understand the concept of soft power. We end up having heads of state of other countries who were educated at Harvard, that helps the US. Same thing with Aid, we pay that money and buy goodwill to the US.

Trump is speed running the US's influence into the ground and China is running to pick up the pieces.

Basically, Trump is handing global influence to China.

+1. But maga are populist nativists who want to isolate the US. They do not understand why global influence is important to our national security.

-former R

I'm a dem and understand global influence. You are overstating the case and you know it. I'm not a maga and I'm all for things being reconfigured. Stop pretending. American students are having a very hard time getting in to colleges and getting jobs. It's time we look at how importing students and workers is hurting our population. It's like NAFTA all over again.

Stop pretending that this isn't hurting the citizens in this country.

You are probably a progressive, who are just as bad as MAGA.

Curtailing foreign students prevents talent from coming in. You are naive if you think this country is able to produce the amount of great talent we do alone without immigration and foreign students. Look at the history of this country and where some of the brightest minds came from.

https://iir.gmu.edu/publications/nobelprize

Immigrants account for approximately 35% of U.S.-affiliated academic Nobel Laureates, reflecting their critical role in driving American excellence in research and innovation. Approximately 44% of immigrant Nobel Laureates in academic disciplines attended U.S. institutions for their highest educational degree. But in recent times, international competition for global talent is rising, and maintaining the nation’s place as a leader in Nobel-quality scholarship will depend on its evolving immigration policies and continued investment in higher education.

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Anonymous wrote:He's handing China a huge win. They are becoming the dominant country for research globally. If their best students stay in China, it is good for them long term.

There are videos on Chinese platforms thanking Trump. They said the best and brightest often left for places like Harvard. Hong Kong University of Science and Tech just offered unconditional acceptance for all Harvard students.

#braindrain.

Thanks, MAGA. /s

Yes, I believe everything that’s on Chinese media platforms. They can be trusted.

? Do you trust everything on "Truth" Social or everything that comes out the WH and Trump's mouth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don't understand the concept of soft power. We end up having heads of state of other countries who were educated at Harvard, that helps the US. Same thing with Aid, we pay that money and buy goodwill to the US.

Trump is speed running the US's influence into the ground and China is running to pick up the pieces.

Basically, Trump is handing global influence to China.

+1. But maga are populist nativists who want to isolate the US. They do not understand why global influence is important to our national security.

-former R

I'm a dem and understand global influence. You are overstating the case and you know it. I'm not a maga and I'm all for things being reconfigured. Stop pretending. American students are having a very hard time getting in to colleges and getting jobs. It's time we look at how importing students and workers is hurting our population. It's like NAFTA all over again.

Stop pretending that this isn't hurting the citizens in this country.

Many American students are clearly not up to the standards o grit and intelligence that some international students, who are more likely full pay, offer. The fact is, these are all lottery schools, so even if you banned all international students from attending, there would still be single digit admission rates, and your Larlo or Larla still isn't getting in.

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I think America should close its doors for 4 years for everything. No more imports, no more foreigners. Try it out for 4 years and let’s see how quickly you become Mississippi….

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No.

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Students from China are what make our universities great. Prior to their enrollment the US university system was substandard.

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Anonymous wrote:We have plenty of bright kids that would LOVE to take the spots of international students at the top schools. Every year thousands of kids with perfect grades and SAT scores do not get into the ivies and T-20 universities. Those spots are going to international students. Lets give US kids a chance at an elite university before educating the rest of the world. American kids first!

[Anonymous]

Too many unemployed software engineers and graduate no international admittance until unemployment is below 1%

[Anonymous]

We're not educating our top students if they don't ever interact with or work with or socialize with or meet with or study with people from other countries during their higher education. Way to take our top schools and have them not be top schools anymore.

If you want to go to a college with almost zero foreign students, there are probably a fair number of them out there. Go to one if it's so great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students from China are what make our universities great. Prior to their enrollment the US university system was substandard.

Because it's such an advantage to graduate from college having never worked with some students from one of the biggest economies and countries in the entire world?

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Anonymous wrote:Students from China are what make our universities great. Prior to their enrollment the US university system was substandard.

Because it's such an advantage to graduate from college having never worked with some students from one of the biggest economies and countries in the entire world?

But they can just eat Chinese food the night before the meeting like Don Draper. That’s how you conduct international business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don't understand the concept of soft power. We end up having heads of state of other countries who were educated at Harvard, that helps the US. Same thing with Aid, we pay that money and buy goodwill to the US.

Trump is speed running the US's influence into the ground and China is running to pick up the pieces.

Basically, Trump is handing global influence to China.

+1. But maga are populist nativists who want to isolate the US. They do not understand why global influence is important to our national security.

-former R

I'm a dem and understand global influence. You are overstating the case and you know it. I'm not a maga and I'm all for things being reconfigured. Stop pretending. American students are having a very hard time getting in to colleges and getting jobs. It's time we look at how importing students and workers is hurting our population. It's like NAFTA all over again.

Stop pretending that this isn't hurting the citizens in this country.

DP. There are enough college seats in the US. All isolation will do is make the US schools worse and less desirable.

[Anonymous]

Why not ban foreigners from competing in the US Open Tennis grand slam? That way, more US players can qualify and play in the tournament. Is that a good thing? Will you buy tickets to a much, much more mediocre tournament? Will you enjoy the tournament without foreign players?

Now ask the same question about colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not ban foreigners from competing in the US Open Tennis grand slam? That way, more US players can qualify and play in the tournament. Is that a good thing? Will you buy tickets to a much, much more mediocre tournament? Will you enjoy the tournament without foreign players?

Now ask the same question about colleges.

Stupid analogy. The US Open Tennis Tournament is not funded with US taxpayer dollars. US colleges are, both in terms of research grant funds and with substantial financial aid programs without which the colleges would be unable to operate. Since US colleges cannot subsist without federal financial support, it is not unreasonable for the federal government to limit the number of foreigners taking advantage of said institutions.