No one has heard of DDs college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's there to say? She chose it and should embrace it.

Or is this one of those posts where you insist that no one outside of the northeast has heard of Williams or Amherst?

NP. But this is actually true for the most part except for very elite academic circles...the vast majority of people outside the NE have not heard of these schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

DP. There are so many people amongst these three groups that have never heard of these schools. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to people.

There is a high likelihood that a person who isn’t from the northeast and whose kid hasn’t considered LACs in the northeast (i.e., most people) has not heard of these schools. Even amongst well-heeled professional classes.

DP. You’re both right.

You ignored the PP’s qualifier about “highly educated, ‘highbrow’” circles. Among those groups, prominent SLACs are very well known, even across the Midwest and South.

But you’re right that there are obviously many successful professionals who didn’t grow up in those circles and aren’t familiar with SLACs.

[Anonymous]

It's okay. Most people have no idea that DCUM is a website vs some twisted offshoot of P Diddy freak offs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sure they have heard about Holy Cross and Colgate.

Why are you sure of that? I'm from the South and hadn't heard of Colgate until I met someone who went there when I was an adult and moved away from the South. Never heard of Holy Cross until I started reading this board. And I'm well educated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

DP. There are so many people amongst these three groups that have never heard of these schools. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to people.

There is a high likelihood that a person who isn’t from the northeast and whose kid hasn’t considered LACs in the northeast (i.e., most people) has not heard of these schools. Even amongst well-heeled professional classes.

DP. You’re both right.

You ignored the PP’s qualifier about “highly educated, ‘highbrow’” circles. Among those groups, prominent SLACs are very well known, even across the Midwest and South.

But you’re right that there are obviously many successful professionals who didn’t grow up in those circles and aren’t familiar with SLACs.

I ignored the highbrow part and bolded the part I bolded because I don’t necessarily disagree with the highbrow part. But I also don’t conflate highbrow with “well-heeled professional classes” or the three professions listed. There are highbrow people in those professions, but far more seem to inhabit academia, academia-adjacent roles, journalism, or the arts. Those people are more likely to have heard of these schools, yes, but even then the likelihood would fall as you move further away from the northeast (with maybe the exception of academics).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

DP. There are so many people amongst these three groups that have never heard of these schools. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to people.

There is a high likelihood that a person who isn’t from the northeast and whose kid hasn’t considered LACs in the northeast (i.e., most people) has not heard of these schools. Even amongst well-heeled professional classes.

DP. You’re both right.

You ignored the PP’s qualifier about “highly educated, ‘highbrow’” circles. Among those groups, prominent SLACs are very well known, even across the Midwest and South.

But you’re right that there are obviously many successful professionals who didn’t grow up in those circles and aren’t familiar with SLACs.

I ignored the highbrow part and bolded the part I bolded because I don’t necessarily disagree with the highbrow part. But I also don’t conflate highbrow with “well-heeled professional classes” or the three professions listed. There are highbrow people in those professions, but far more seem to inhabit academia, academia-adjacent roles, journalism, or the arts. Those people are more likely to have heard of these schools, yes, but even then the likelihood would fall as you move further away from the northeast (with maybe the exception of academics).

Fair enough, but I’d also add that there’s certainly a correlation between both affluence and high-achieving kids and awareness of SLACs.

I went to a prep school in a mid-sized Midwestern city with a very affluent student body. Everyone knew all of the T30 SLACs. No

Similar at my kid’s high school in the South. Less affluent and public, but top 30% of class is shooting for highly selective colleges. SLACs v well known among this crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would you care about what some dumb MAGA rube in the south thinks OP? Every year, southern states rank in the bottom tier for education.

Not all people who haven't heard of these schools are dumb, MAGA rubes. I'm an extremely liberal, progressive, well-educated person but I had not heard of Colby or Bates until I started reading this board and only had heard of Bowdoin because I happened to have a classmate who went there (and she was constantly fielding questions about it because no one at my large public high school in the South had heard of it except the college counselor )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would you care about what some dumb MAGA rube in the south thinks OP? Every year, southern states rank in the bottom tier for education.

Such a beautiful illustration of the DCUM mentality.

NP. It's true. Southerners are poor and uneducated on average. They also score poorly on standardized tests and are more obese than their northern counterparts. Facts don't care about your feelings.

Yes, and many of the people you are describing are black and not MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The egos here…. The rest of the world does not care about your DD’s college. Believe it or not, LACs are not taught after by everyone. Most kids want a real college experience and don’t even look into them.

Heads up that LACs are the original “real college experience”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

DP. There are so many people amongst these three groups that have never heard of these schools. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to people.

There is a high likelihood that a person who isn’t from the northeast and whose kid hasn’t considered LACs in the northeast (i.e., most people) has not heard of these schools. Even amongst well-heeled professional classes.

DP. You’re both right.

You ignored the PP’s qualifier about “highly educated, ‘highbrow’” circles. Among those groups, prominent SLACs are very well known, even across the Midwest and South.

But you’re right that there are obviously many successful professionals who didn’t grow up in those circles and aren’t familiar with SLACs.

I ignored the highbrow part and bolded the part I bolded because I don’t necessarily disagree with the highbrow part. But I also don’t conflate highbrow with “well-heeled professional classes” or the three professions listed. There are highbrow people in those professions, but far more seem to inhabit academia, academia-adjacent roles, journalism, or the arts. Those people are more likely to have heard of these schools, yes, but even then the likelihood would fall as you move further away from the northeast (with maybe the exception of academics).

That's the point. Not every attorney is going to know what Williams is, but the partners at Cravath know it.

[Anonymous]

The elites who power America- journalists, NGO/non-profit staff, university faculty, critical thinkers, etc. know the SLACs.

[Anonymous]

I'm from the northeast and expected it was something like Salve, Stonehill, Curry, Simmons, Lasell, and the like. The really small LACs.

Bates, Bowdoin, and Colby are HUGE names. I get that the average person doesn't know them, but anyone who knows SLACs knows them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Outside of academia and those of us who have actively researched small schools, very few of us know the strong liberal arts colleges from other regions. I run into people all the time who have never heard of the schools my family attended (Denison/Kenyon) and I thought University of Richmond was a commuter school when I moved to Virginia!

The average American knows colleges in his/her region and through sports. Very few can tell you the locations of Grinnell, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Carleton, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, etc. It’s not a litmus test for wealth or education—it’s a lack of exposure.

Wrong. This cohort of schools is very well known, and has been very well known, to highly educated, "highbrow" circles for a long, long time. Of course academics know about them, but also attorneys, physicians, bankers, and the well-heeled professional classes.

DP. There are so many people amongst these three groups that have never heard of these schools. I’m not sure why this is a surprise to people.

There is a high likelihood that a person who isn’t from the northeast and whose kid hasn’t considered LACs in the northeast (i.e., most people) has not heard of these schools. Even amongst well-heeled professional classes.

DP. You’re both right.

You ignored the PP’s qualifier about “highly educated, ‘highbrow’” circles. Among those groups, prominent SLACs are very well known, even across the Midwest and South.

But you’re right that there are obviously many successful professionals who didn’t grow up in those circles and aren’t familiar with SLACs.

I ignored the highbrow part and bolded the part I bolded because I don’t necessarily disagree with the highbrow part. But I also don’t conflate highbrow with “well-heeled professional classes” or the three professions listed. There are highbrow people in those professions, but far more seem to inhabit academia, academia-adjacent roles, journalism, or the arts. Those people are more likely to have heard of these schools, yes, but even then the likelihood would fall as you move further away from the northeast (with maybe the exception of academics).

That's the point. Not every attorney is going to know what Williams is, but the partners at Cravath know it.

They might. Will the ones at Kirkland & Ellis or Baker McKenzie in Chicago, or at Latham & Watkins in LA? Maybe, maybe not. Plenty of them haven’t. It’s weird to assume they have.

Also, Williams is probably a different story than Bowdoin, Bates, Colby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The elites who power America- journalists, NGO/non-profit staff, university faculty, critical thinkers, etc. know the SLACs.

"journalists, NGO/non-profit staff, " because the are the neponbabies who went to SLACs

"Critical thinners" lol