Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


You can repeat your words a million times but it doesn’t make them true. Yes, countries have a right to exist and Israel is an example of that.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?


Your last sentence is just laughable given the history of Israel’s fight to survive.
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Anonymous wrote:May the Israelis get what they deserve and may we all live to see it.


You are all a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths.

Hamas is horrible. So Israel is horrible. So you hope Israel gets treated the same way. This will never end, you know.

I'm a Jew who went on Birthright and was staunchly pro-Israel all my life until the past two years. The blood of murdered Palestinians cries out for justice and the genocidal evil Israelis are doing is an affront to all the Jews murdered in European pogroms and the Holocaust. The Zionist Project must end and it will end only when it is destroyed. May I live to see it happen. There is nothing you can say that will sway me (and most of the world's population) from this position.


You’re an idiot.

Israel is the only country that will take you in when antisemitism here in the US will take hold.


It won’t take hold here, thankfully. Actions of ridiculous Columbia protesters for example are laughed at by everyday Americans.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?


Your last sentence is just laughable given the history of Israel’s fight to survive.


Israel is not only currently occupying Gaza but parts of Syria, Lebanon and many of their politicians have been open about the formation of a greater Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


You can repeat your words a million times but it doesn’t make them true. Yes, countries have a right to exist and Israel is an example of that.


I don’t need for them to be true, or untrue. You, on the other hand, seem very desperate for them to be untrue.

Let’s allow time to settle this one!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?


Your last sentence is just laughable given the history of Israel’s fight to survive.


Like 1967, when Israel launched a war to seize land from its neighbors? And spent 58 years since then flagrantly violating international law and refusing to recognize U.N. resolutions? A war that Israel continues to mischaracterize as self-defense?

Like that “fight to survive”?

Oh, that’s right! Israel alone has the “right” to invoke preemptive self-defense! Everyone else? Not only can’t they invoke “preemptive self-defense”, but they also have to tolerate Israel’s malignancy as a neighbor?

Gross. Just gross. Ugh. So happy to enjoy life free of people like that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.


Sure, Jan.

Look, I’m sure Bubbie convinced you that you are always the smartest mind in the room. Let’s just say Bubbie was an abject idiot herself, so her opinion doesn’t really matter.

Nations don’t have a natural right to exist. The end.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.


Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth,” attributed to Adolf Hitler’s propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, encapsulates what modern psychology has proven: that repetitive statements can overpower our critical thinking to the point of accepting falsehoods as self-evident truths. In other words, brainwashing works.

The notion that “Israel has the right to exist” is a case in point. It is a statement so often asserted by mainly Western leaders and media that it appears to be correct. And if it is a “right”, it must be rooted in law.

As Moncef Khane, who worked at the UN for 30+ years said - "To begin, the idea of a state’s inherent “right to exist” is fallacious. Conceptually or legally, no such natural or legal right exists – for Israel or any other state – as the establishment of nation-states is not rooted in international law."
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?


Your last sentence is just laughable given the history of Israel’s fight to survive.


Like 1967, when Israel launched a war to seize land from its neighbors? And spent 58 years since then flagrantly violating international law and refusing to recognize U.N. resolutions? A war that Israel continues to mischaracterize as self-defense?

Like that “fight to survive”?

Oh, that’s right! Israel alone has the “right” to invoke preemptive self-defense! Everyone else? Not only can’t they invoke “preemptive self-defense”, but they also have to tolerate Israel’s malignancy as a neighbor?

Gross. Just gross. Ugh. So happy to enjoy life free of people like that.


Israel isn’t going anywhere. Nor should it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?


Your last sentence is just laughable given the history of Israel’s fight to survive.


Like 1967, when Israel launched a war to seize land from its neighbors? And spent 58 years since then flagrantly violating international law and refusing to recognize U.N. resolutions? A war that Israel continues to mischaracterize as self-defense?

Like that “fight to survive”?

Oh, that’s right! Israel alone has the “right” to invoke preemptive self-defense! Everyone else? Not only can’t they invoke “preemptive self-defense”, but they also have to tolerate Israel’s malignancy as a neighbor?

Gross. Just gross. Ugh. So happy to enjoy life free of people like that.


Israel isn’t going anywhere. Nor should it.


I sense your unease. Good.

For the record, the establishment of Israel was a mistake. But my hope has always been (and continues to be) massive reform in Israel, with the end result that Israel does, in fact, continue to exist as a secular integrated state.
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Can any humanitarian organizations bring food aid into Gaza with the ongoing siege?

Or is the death of 2+ million inevitable?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.


Sure, Jan.

Look, I’m sure Bubbie convinced you that you are always the smartest mind in the room. Let’s just say Bubbie was an abject idiot herself, so her opinion doesn’t really matter.

Nations don’t have a natural right to exist. The end.


How awful that you assume that I’m Jewish and then proceed with insults based on that assumption.

Also telling that you now omit legal rights and focus on “natural rights” only. I’d not have pegged you as a Hobbes/Locke fan.

Tell you what: as a starting point, read article 2 of the UN charter and report back on what you think sovereignty means with respect to external relations of states.

Omit the vileness and I might even help answer your questions.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.


Sure, Jan.

Look, I’m sure Bubbie convinced you that you are always the smartest mind in the room. Let’s just say Bubbie was an abject idiot herself, so her opinion doesn’t really matter.

Nations don’t have a natural right to exist. The end.


How awful that you assume that I’m Jewish and then proceed with insults based on that assumption.

Also telling that you now omit legal rights and focus on “natural rights” only. I’d not have pegged you as a Hobbes/Locke fan.

Tell you what: as a starting point, read article 2 of the UN charter and report back on what you think sovereignty means with respect to external relations of states.

Omit the vileness and I might even help answer your questions.


If Israel won’t recognize the U.N. charter, why should I? See how that works!

No “right to exist”. The end.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?


They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?


The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.


I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.


I appreciate your ability to differentiate between supporting Israel’s right to exist and its current maniacal government. I have always thought well of Israel, I am utterly devastated and shocked at its current government and their policies. The tragedy is we don’t see many people like you, most are in an either/or scenario.


DP
Again, no nation has a “right to exist”. Why is this so difficult to accept?


Because it’s flatly incorrect as a matter of law. Read up on sovereignty.


Wait, hold up - are you seriously trying to argue that nations have a right to exist that is rooted in both natural and man-made laws? No.

Not only are there many examples of nations that have come and gone throughout history, but sovereignty is obviously not “a matter of law” - how else do you explain Israel’s repeated disregard for the sovereignty of its neighbors?

That’s right. You can’t explain it. Because your deranged view of “matters of law” is wholly disconnected from reality.

I repeat: no nation has a “right to exist”. Not Israel. Not the U.S. Not Russia. And not any other nation or aspiring nation.


Look, I don’t have the time to give you a primer on international law.

I’ll just say this: if you aren’t knowledgeable about a technical subject, you’re best off not sharing uninformed opinions on the matter.


Sure, Jan.

Look, I’m sure Bubbie convinced you that you are always the smartest mind in the room. Let’s just say Bubbie was an abject idiot herself, so her opinion doesn’t really matter.

Nations don’t have a natural right to exist. The end.


How awful that you assume that I’m Jewish and then proceed with insults based on that assumption.

Also telling that you now omit legal rights and focus on “natural rights” only. I’d not have pegged you as a Hobbes/Locke fan.

Tell you what: as a starting point, read article 2 of the UN charter and report back on what you think sovereignty means with respect to external relations of states.

Omit the vileness and I might even help answer your questions.


If Israel won’t recognize the U.N. charter, why should I? See how that works!

No “right to exist”. The end.


Let me get this straight: in your view, Israel = bad, so you’re also going to be bad in the same way. Which somehow makes Israel immoral but you righteous?

Oh, and you’re going to refuse to acknowledge the UN Charter as evidence of an international principle of sovereignty in external affairs?

You’ve got troubles, my friend. Best of luck.
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