Five weeks in. RTO is literally killing me!

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre 2020? People commuted to the office every day. Kids went to daycare. Parents came home, made dinner, helped with homework. It’s life.

This is what I'm thinking! I'd generally favor a more flexible schedule for many jobs. But the drama people display in just going back to what was normal a few years ago.

as has been repeated ad nauseum, this is not going back to the way things were pre-covid. It's going back to the way things were in approximately 1990.

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre 2020? People commuted to the office every day. Kids went to daycare. Parents came home, made dinner, helped with homework. It’s life.

This is what I'm thinking! I'd generally favor a more flexible schedule for many jobs. But the drama people display in just going back to what was normal a few years ago.

as has been repeated ad nauseum, this is not going back to the way things were pre-covid. It's going back to the way things were in approximately 1990.

Yeah my office has been experimenting with telework since the early 2000s. Not allowing any part time telework backs us up over two decades.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your funeral.

I'm not worried. Someone else will want the pension and the benefits you have.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your funeral.

I'm not worried. Someone else will want the pension and the benefits you have.

they are cutting those, you know.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your funeral.

I'm not worried. Someone else will want the pension and the benefits you have.

the jobs will not be refilled. they are just gone. no one takes them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More proof RTO is for desperately lonely people with nothing going on their personal lives. The office is where they get all their socializing done and need to force people in to do it.

Yes and creepy old men who like to be around and in charge of young women. Law partners I’m talking to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your deep experience doing federal technical hiring really shines through here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre 2020? People commuted to the office every day. Kids went to daycare. Parents came home, made dinner, helped with homework. It’s life.

This is what I'm thinking! I'd generally favor a more flexible schedule for many jobs. But the drama people display in just going back to what was normal a few years ago.

+1 too much drama. Toughen up, people.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your deep experience doing federal technical hiring really shines through here.

About as much as your clueless entitlement. You're not that special, princess.

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Anonymous wrote:More proof RTO is for desperately lonely people with nothing going on their personal lives. The office is where they get all their socializing done and need to force people in to do it.

Yes and creepy old men who like to be around and in charge of young women. Law partners I’m talking to you.

Oh here we go. You're simply too busy to be bothered with coming in. We should thank our lucky stars that we get to have you on payroll and on our website.

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre 2020? People commuted to the office every day. Kids went to daycare. Parents came home, made dinner, helped with homework. It’s life.

This is what I'm thinking! I'd generally favor a more flexible schedule for many jobs. But the drama people display in just going back to what was normal a few years ago.

A few few years ago women couldn’t vote, or own real estate, black men weren’t human enough, Jews were being killed ….

Are you suggesting we go back to those scenarios too?

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Anonymous wrote:What did you do pre 2020? People commuted to the office every day. Kids went to daycare. Parents came home, made dinner, helped with homework. It’s life.

This is what I'm thinking! I'd generally favor a more flexible schedule for many jobs. But the drama people display in just going back to what was normal a few years ago.

A few few years ago women couldn’t vote, or own real estate, black men weren’t human enough, Jews were being killed ….

Are you suggesting we go back to those scenarios too?

Yeah, that's totally what PP was talking about

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Anonymous wrote:IF folks think they do their jobs 100% remote, then why do we need to keep jobs in US? I'm sur companies can get cheaper and smarter labor overseas. Especially Asian countries.

I mean, I'm a lawyer who works remotely part time. People overseas don't have law degrees. My Dad does telehealth visits with patients sometimes, does that mean you'd want an overseas doctor? They don't have medical licenses.

That argument is absurd.

WHAT??? You don't think anyone "overseas" gets adequate medical attention? I can assure you that most of the world has bodies governing medical and other professional licenses.

+1. They all have medical licenses. Most of them also have better training than US doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your funeral.

I'm not worried. Someone else will want the pension and the benefits you have.

they are cutting those, you know.

BS and you know it. You're still going to get a pension.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who insist on terminating TW are usually old men, people without children, or those who never did much childrearing. This generation of parents actually wants to spend time with their kids, we want to be able to cook a home cook meal several times a week, and see them after work for more than an hour, we don't want to be shitty/absent parents. TW simply gives us two hours of our lives back (at least!), time we can dedicate to our families and not commuting.

We are the generation that deeply understands why birthrates are going down. A society that refuses to support parents is doomed, young people will look at us and say "hard pass".

I’m a teacher and can’t stay at home. I rather resent the notion that I’m a “shitty/absent parent” because of my job.

Teachers need not chime in, they leave work at 345 everyday, and get 16 weeks of paid vacation-- ( I get that its a low paid job), but the time off is essentially equivalent to working like 3-4 day weeks all year for the rest of us.

Yes, good idea not to chime in if you’re missing facts. I’m not leaving anywhere close to 3:45 because my school, like many, doesn’t even dismiss until after 4:00. We get paid for none of our breaks and I’m not sure who is getting 16 weeks off.

Not a cushy job with few work days and short hours. There’s a reason that the current teacher shortage exists.

You like to insert yourself a lot in these threads. I’m not sure why but you seem to want to compare every job to being a teacher.

That was my first post in this thread, or any RTO thread, for that matter. There’s more than one of us out there. Just getting tired of all of the posters that think we have such a cushy job and finally decided to post.

The whining from people who suddenly have to join the rest of us with on site work conditions is excessive.

The government services you are counting on existing are getting degraded because of the push to RTO in order to get people to quit. I hope you like the suffering of people you envy more than you like your parents being able to sign up for social security.

OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions. If you quit your amazing government job because you are too lazy to get your ass to the office, that's on YOU. Just ask thousands of feds who were fired and would love to have your job.

Your deep experience doing federal technical hiring really shines through here.

About as much as your clueless entitlement. You're not that special, princess.

It took me a week to get another well paying fully remote job offer. I'm going to be fine, but the work I do isn't going to be done by anyone else, and I'm sad about that.