Petition to Rescind the appointment of AP at Rock Creek Valley ES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In summary: White male principal is the boss. Minority female assistant principal wishes she was the boss. She calls the police (her husband) to support her baseless accusation. His career gets derailed, he loses his job and reputation. Nothing happens to her. The system assures all that there is nothing to see here. This is a tale as old as time...

Um. The AP was not a minority…why did you think she was?

Because it fits their racist false narrative of women of color tearing down white men. That they said “tale as old as time” with a straight face is hilarious. Everywhere we look, there’s a woman of color taking a white man’s job, right? 😆😆😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

Quite the contrary. It sounds like the exact opposite given that he was cleared of wrongdoing.

He wasn't cleared of inappropriate behavior. On the contrary, he was demoted for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

Quite the contrary. It sounds like the exact opposite given that he was cleared of wrongdoing.

He wasn't cleared of inappropriate behavior. On the contrary, he was demoted for it.

That was before he was cleared. That's a pretty common way of dealing employee investigations that may go on for a while. You're removed from the position and reinstated to a similar one based on the openings that are available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are assuming it’s a demotion but it very well could be that there are no principalships available at this time and they put him into an assistant principal position for the remainder of the school year or maybe after going through a trial he didn’t want the responsibility to be a principal. People here just make up things with no evidence of facts. So sad!

There are in fact at least two ES principalships available, Bradley Hills and Wyngate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is mob mentality at its worst. The man was literally acquitted without even having to put on a case (i.e. a directed verdict) showing how absolutely ridiculous these charges were and then MCPS backtracked on the termination knowing that they did not have the evidence to support the charges. This man has received NUMEROUS accalades as one of the best principals in MoCo over 20+ years and it is absolutely disguesting that people would defame his character with evidence-free allegations and speculation. Do better parents.

1000% agree, thank you. I'm disgusted at the mob mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are assuming it’s a demotion but it very well could be that there are no principalships available at this time and they put him into an assistant principal position for the remainder of the school year or maybe after going through a trial he didn’t want the responsibility to be a principal. People here just make up things with no evidence of facts. So sad!

There are in fact at least two ES principalships available, Bradley Hills and Wyngate.

I don't about you, but I certainly wouldn't want to commute down to Bethesda every day. Nor would I want to put up with Bethesda parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

There are teachers on this thread who have worked with Andrew who are telling you what a strong leader he is and how much he cares about kids. It says a lot about YOU that you are only running with negative comments. In my personal experience working with him as a teacher, he really encouraged excellence among staff and students, and tbh, I think that is why people don't like him and want to see him crucified. He asks people to rise to the occasion for the benefit of kids, and people complained. This is coming from someone who worked with him for several years. I have also worked for several other principals who actually ARE bullies, but their names never get mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher that worked with Andrew for several years and I am honestly sick of this narrative. Andrew was the one who helped me get out of a school where a principal WAS ACTUALLY a bully, to the point where several teachers left during the school and the end of the year. It's funny to me that that admin has never been investigated.

Is he perfect? No, no one is. But he does care about students and I have seen him go out of his way to plan events and programs to make the school community fun for kids, only to be met with negativity from some staff about why those things couldn't be done. He led his previous school to earning a Maryland Blue Ribbon, again leading his staff to do data analysis and really boost supports for struggling students -- again met with negativity by some staff who did not want to do those things and complained about it every chance they could get. How do I know? I saw it and those who complained were so loud and overbearing that they overpowered those of us who had good experiences with Andrew. Give him a chance before you write him off, sheesh.

I also have worked with Mr. Winter and he was by far one of the hardest working principals I have had and extremely supportive of students and staff. People are tearing him down and it's just not right. This is a long time dedicated educator who has done some great things in his schools. I wish he was still at Barnsley with us as who followed him has created issues for many of the staff and families. He cares greatly about students, his staff, and his community.

We are a Barnsley family with kids who attended while Winter was principal, and also under the new principal. I agree with both of these PPs completely. The school was well-run under his leadership.

[Anonymous]

As a Ritchie Park parent of a child who has an IEP and behavioral challenges, we always felt genuine support and concern from both Mr.Winter and the AP. They were a dynamic team, please stop villainizing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is mob mentality at its worst. The man was literally acquitted without even having to put on a case (i.e. a directed verdict) showing how absolutely ridiculous these charges were and then MCPS backtracked on the termination knowing that they did not have the evidence to support the charges. This man has received NUMEROUS accalades as one of the best principals in MoCo over 20+ years and it is absolutely disguesting that people would defame his character with evidence-free allegations and speculation. Do better parents.

THIS

We're in the cluster so I'm seeing all the crazy, disparaging posts about him. Absolute mob mentality at its worst.

Stick to the facts, not just random opinions. And either we trust in the judicial process or we don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

There are teachers on this thread who have worked with Andrew who are telling you what a strong leader he is and how much he cares about kids. It says a lot about YOU that you are only running with negative comments. In my personal experience working with him as a teacher, he really encouraged excellence among staff and students, and tbh, I think that is why people don't like him and want to see him crucified. He asks people to rise to the occasion for the benefit of kids, and people complained. This is coming from someone who worked with him for several years. I have also worked for several other principals who actually ARE bullies, but their names never get mentioned.

There are also teachers on this thread telling you he is short tempered, inappropriate with students , and has been observed to sexually harass female staff. When their comments were made, other posters said those teachers couldn’t be validated because it’s an anonymous forum. But when “teachers” come and say positive things , suddenly they are credible. How ridiculous and hypocritical

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are assuming it’s a demotion but it very well could be that there are no principalships available at this time and they put him into an assistant principal position for the remainder of the school year or maybe after going through a trial he didn’t want the responsibility to be a principal. People here just make up things with no evidence of facts. So sad!

There are in fact at least two ES principalships available, Bradley Hills and Wyngate.

I don't about you, but I certainly wouldn't want to commute down to Bethesda every day. Nor would I want to put up with Bethesda parents.

Mcps knows that the community at Wyngate and Bradley Hills would run him out so fast their heads would spin. It wouldn’t fly there and they know it. Not a coincidence he was placed at RCV and the current RCV assistant principal will go to Wyngate instead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

There are teachers on this thread who have worked with Andrew who are telling you what a strong leader he is and how much he cares about kids. It says a lot about YOU that you are only running with negative comments. In my personal experience working with him as a teacher, he really encouraged excellence among staff and students, and tbh, I think that is why people don't like him and want to see him crucified. He asks people to rise to the occasion for the benefit of kids, and people complained. This is coming from someone who worked with him for several years. I have also worked for several other principals who actually ARE bullies, but their names never get mentioned.

There are also teachers on this thread telling you he is short tempered, inappropriate with students , and has been observed to sexually harass female staff. When their comments were made, other posters said those teachers couldn’t be validated because it’s an anonymous forum. But when “teachers” come and say positive things , suddenly they are credible. How ridiculous and hypocritical

There are very clearly some posters here with direct connections to him that are coming here to defend him and at times outright lying (e g a previous poster who claimed the child showed no signs of distress, which is inconsistent with multiple descriptions by journalists of the video)

[Anonymous]

My child attended Barnsley while Mr. Winter was the principal and had an IEP. Mr. Winter went out of his way to build a positive relationship with him and my husband and I were very grateful. He proved to be a caring and wonderful principal for the 8 years we were at the school with him for our two sons. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work in MCPS and deserves the opportunity to be the assistant principal at RCV!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen the video and while it shows a stomp of the foot it does not show any contact with the students foot. As for the grabbing of the hood, the child is not yanked or comes off his feet he is just guided to his seat.

We need to stop crucifying this guy. He was acquitted and cleared to return to work by MCPS. There is no history of complaints on him according to MCPS. Interesting that parents are now saying things happened 5-15 years ago.

This all needs to stop and let the guy return to work.

Until the video is made public I just don't buy what people post here. There is clearly a coordinated and deceptive campaign to defend him. The news reports describing the video are pretty damning. I don't know wtf you are.

There are teachers on this thread who have worked with Andrew who are telling you what a strong leader he is and how much he cares about kids. It says a lot about YOU that you are only running with negative comments. In my personal experience working with him as a teacher, he really encouraged excellence among staff and students, and tbh, I think that is why people don't like him and want to see him crucified. He asks people to rise to the occasion for the benefit of kids, and people complained. This is coming from someone who worked with him for several years. I have also worked for several other principals who actually ARE bullies, but their names never get mentioned.

There are also teachers on this thread telling you he is short tempered, inappropriate with students , and has been observed to sexually harass female staff. When their comments were made, other posters said those teachers couldn’t be validated because it’s an anonymous forum. But when “teachers” come and say positive things , suddenly they are credible. How ridiculous and hypocritical

Teachers regularly complain about principals, just as any employee regularly complains about their boss. Without evidence, there's no reason to give those anonymous, vague accusations any weight.