DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh

Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.

This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.

The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.

If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

They do look at those submissions, I know of a player that went to Crew that way. I know of a player that filled out one of those forms and the scout came out to watch him at MLSNext Fest. I know of another player that got picked up at MLSNext Fest because they were there to watch someone else but saw him instead.

At the club we're at, the coach would not actively contact academy coaches for his players. I would be shocked if he did.

As in players have asked the coach to reach out to the academy and the coach says no?

Does the coach at least communicate with the academy if they reach out to them? Academies always ask for contact info for the players coach

I'm not sure, I meant that the coach wouldn't proactively go out of his way to reach out to an academy about a player.

And yes coaches will tell you if an academy is interested. I can't see a coach intentionally hiding it, I wonder what the repercussions would be.

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Anonymous wrote:People, are we all now so sad, pitiful and jaded drowning in insecurities and low self-esteem we're trying to form a group to collectively hate and disparage the local academy because our kids weren't qualified or exceptional to be selected by them?

Sad shameful and despicable

Here's your option.
Don't accept an invitation from DCU if offered and or just take your kid to Philly or NEW York if they'll have him.

Seems much simpler than this pitiful display

I mean that is what players are doing, trying to not be scouted by DCU and focusing on getting into an academy somewhere else.

Yes, we should believe you that all the good players and their families in the DMV area that are MLS academy level talent are seeking avenues outside the area.

You're so focused on this crap you can't even hear how ridiculous you sound.

When local kids are offered spots by outside academies, including DCU, guess which ones they go for?

If they can, they are going to places other than DCU for sure.

The ones I know have gone to Red Bulls and Philly Union. I do know one kid that had offers in other states for other academies, but ultimately went to DCU because his family didn't want to relocate and the other offers didn't offer residential so to take the offers the family would have had to move.

You're an insider expert with full working knowledge of not only everything operational behind the scenes at DC United and the Academy, but you also possess personal first hand knowledge of the thoughts, decisions and actions of all players/families who are at, have been to the academy or were recruited to the academy? (also all players in the area that are at academy level skills)

Are you the Jedi of DMV soccer?

Seems like a very unhealthy obsession that may require psychological and psychiatric intervention

What?????

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

So are you saying if a

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh

Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.

This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.

The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.

If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.

So are you saying if a player has an EU or UK passport, any academy would be better than DCU?

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Anonymous wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_the_most_valuable_MLS_clubs

Pretty high on the list, but no desire to be better as a whole.

If they’re so valuable, why don’t they invest in their youth academy? It’s crazy.

Can you add a link to show the academy budget for say the past 3 years?

Since you're making a confident statement that they don't invest in their youth academy

Why don't YOU show us that they are investing in their academy like the other pro teams? Not having their own facility let alone their own field is very telling. No residency programs, no overseas tournaments, nothing. Appalling for team that's based in a big metro area like DC/NOVA. DCU is lacking and always a step behind, get over it.

You're ranting about an academy you have no connection to other than through dcum and telling someone else to get over it?

DC kids don't train or play home games?

They do, just at rented space at a local club.

And playing matches at the soccerplex in Germantown. Just like all high level academies. Well, high level academies and the SAM league.

I'm shocked DCU would play matches at the craphole soccerplex where MLS Next holds one of their biggest national tournaments each year
The pitches there are horrible and filled with gopher holes
I know the kids prefer the artificial turf to natural bermuda grass

The point wasn't that soccerplex is bad. The point was they don't have their own facility. It's also not close to other facility that's not theirs where they train. Grass at soccerplex is great, not having a dedicated facility is not great.

Soccerplex is NOT their home field. They train and play their home field in Leesburg, VA.

Not right now, they don't.

They definitely do train and play home games in Leesburg.

Maybe 3 years ago. I've seen them play at the VA Rev field and Soccerplex the last 2 years.

My kid's MLS NEXT team played DCU a few weeks ago, at the Soccerplex.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

They do look at those submissions, I know of a player that went to Crew that way. I know of a player that filled out one of those forms and the scout came out to watch him at MLSNext Fest. I know of another player that got picked up at MLSNext Fest because they were there to watch someone else but saw him instead.

At the club we're at, the coach would not actively contact academy coaches for his players. I would be shocked if he did.

As in players have asked the coach to reach out to the academy and the coach says no?

Does the coach at least communicate with the academy if they reach out to them? Academies always ask for contact info for the players coach

I'm not sure, I meant that the coach wouldn't proactively go out of his way to reach out to an academy about a player.

And yes coaches will tell you if an academy is interested. I can't see a coach intentionally hiding it, I wonder what the repercussions would be.

NP here. I have heard this about a club that is located in Montgomery County (don't want to say, but you can figure it out).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

So are you saying if a

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh

Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.

This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.

The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.

If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.

So are you saying if a player has an EU or UK passport, any academy would be better than DCU?

No. If you're not leaving the country to a better soccer environment then its mainly a lateral move.
As with all environments slightly better or worse based on personal preferences and needs.
But if you have to be here in America until 18, you have to be exceptional to make a big career move outside college or MLS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

They do look at those submissions, I know of a player that went to Crew that way. I know of a player that filled out one of those forms and the scout came out to watch him at MLSNext Fest. I know of another player that got picked up at MLSNext Fest because they were there to watch someone else but saw him instead.

At the club we're at, the coach would not actively contact academy coaches for his players. I would be shocked if he did.

As in players have asked the coach to reach out to the academy and the coach says no?

Does the coach at least communicate with the academy if they reach out to them? Academies always ask for contact info for the players coach

I'm not sure, I meant that the coach wouldn't proactively go out of his way to reach out to an academy about a player.

And yes coaches will tell you if an academy is interested. I can't see a coach intentionally hiding it, I wonder what the repercussions would be.

NP here. I have heard this about a club that is located in Montgomery County (don't want to say, but you can figure it out).

There are a couple local clubs very anti DCU and will do anything to sabotage kids chances and opportunities.

One club owner actively goes to DCU games to bad talk the club to parents, trying to convince them to leave DC for other academies or residential mls next programs.

Sounds familiar?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

So are you saying if a

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh

Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.

This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.

The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.

If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.

So are you saying if a player has an EU or UK passport, any academy would be better than DCU?

No. If you're not leaving the country to a better soccer environment then its mainly a lateral move.
As with all environments slightly better or worse based on personal preferences and needs.
But if you have to be here in America until 18, you have to be exceptional to make a big career move outside college or MLS.

But if you have an EU passport, wouldn’t it be better to work with an academy that has regular events and games or official partnerships in Europe? Like Redbull and Union? Wouldnt that help get a better placement since theres more exposure there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In conclusion after all the experts have weighed in.

DCU Academy is the worst place for your kid
Send them to Philly Union or Red Bulls (open door policy)

So are you saying if a

What is the Red Bulls open door policy?

If we're all being encouraged to go there, I'm just assuming all DMV ballers can just head up the turnpike and sign-up

They both have webpages where you can sign up and put your info, with highlights and schedule, but I wonder how often they look at that or actually scout that way.

I imagine they screen these submissions and at minimum, look into those who are already coming from another academy or can say they are a baller on an MLSNext/ECNL team. Or your coach/club has connections and reach out to them.

I don’t know and would love to hear what other families have done to be seen by other academies.

Stop listening to the pied piper who's more interested in settling scores and getting you away from DCU versus getting you to a destination better for you.

How many kids do you seriously think can leave our DMV area and get into Philly Union and Red Bulls when they have a huge talent pool in their areas?
smdh

Again, all we're saying is that if your kid is good enough to be watched by DCU, reach out to other academies and have them take a look as well. If your kid gets multiple offers, take a good look at each program and their resources. Of course DCU is a no brainer if you get no other interest.

This is not France, Spain, Brazil, Holland etc...
What's the big difference between your kid at DCU at home versus another academy 8 states away for a 13 year old alone?

Unless kid is a Cavan Sullivan or other generational talent.

The big difference is that it is a significant commitment for the child and the family for a organization that isn't making the same type of commitment to your son.

If your kid goes to Columbus or Nashville or LA or Philly instead of DC and they aren't a Cavan Sullivan or have a EU or UK passport, what happens differently?
Nothing.

They'll go play college ball or end up in MLS making $70K just like DCU kids who aren't generational level talent.

Someone make a liar out of me.

So are you saying if a player has an EU or UK passport, any academy would be better than DCU?

No. If you're not leaving the country to a better soccer environment then its mainly a lateral move.
As with all environments slightly better or worse based on personal preferences and needs.
But if you have to be here in America until 18, you have to be exceptional to make a big career move outside college or MLS.

But if you have an EU passport, wouldn’t it be better to work with an academy that has regular events and games or official partnerships in Europe? Like Redbull and Union? Wouldnt that help get a better placement since theres more exposure there?

Yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's blame culture, even this article supports what is being said here.

https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Allowing MLS clubs to have territorial rights when the club doesn't have high aspirations themselves just flat out sucks.

For sure the territorial rights really rubs the wrong way when your local club is not great. It’s like players get developed by a non-DCU club, then gets recruited by DCU and then DCU own the rights to the kid’s future movements if they want to leave DCU.

Is there detail about territorial rights? i heard the academies have rights on players not even in their academy. Academies outside DCU territories have to ask permission to pursue players in their geographical areas if even DCU doesn't care the for player. This makes no sense...DCU didn't develop the players or give a rats a** about them, why do they have claim on these players?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's blame culture, even this article supports what is being said here.

https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Allowing MLS clubs to have territorial rights when the club doesn't have high aspirations themselves just flat out sucks.

For sure the territorial rights really rubs the wrong way when your local club is not great. It’s like players get developed by a non-DCU club, then gets recruited by DCU and then DCU own the rights to the kid’s future movements if they want to leave DCU.

Is there detail about territorial rights? i heard the academies have rights on players not even in their academy. Academies outside DCU territories have to ask permission to pursue players in their geographical areas if even DCU doesn't care the for player. This makes no sense...DCU didn't develop the players or give a rats a** about them, why do they have claim on these players?

Look up MLS homegrown rules. They got a right to any player within 75 miles of their base. But only those in their academy plus 7 or 9 more, I forget the number.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's blame culture, even this article supports what is being said here.

https://www.ussoccercollective.com/mls/mls-academy-rankings

Allowing MLS clubs to have territorial rights when the club doesn't have high aspirations themselves just flat out sucks.

For sure the territorial rights really rubs the wrong way when your local club is not great. It’s like players get developed by a non-DCU club, then gets recruited by DCU and then DCU own the rights to the kid’s future movements if they want to leave DCU.

Is there detail about territorial rights? i heard the academies have rights on players not even in their academy. Academies outside DCU territories have to ask permission to pursue players in their geographical areas if even DCU doesn't care the for player. This makes no sense...DCU didn't develop the players or give a rats a** about them, why do they have claim on these players?

Look up MLS homegrown rules. They got a right to any player within 75 miles of their base. But only those in their academy plus 7 or 9 more, I forget the number.

I imagine those on their restricted list are those who were at Dcu at some point but have left for some reason. But I wonder if it can also be a player that they looked at but decided not to make an offer to or someone who they gave an offer to but who declined it?

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MLS has done nothing to advance the game.

[Anonymous]

I got a question. Why does DCU not have a second team that plays MLS Next Pro? Sure they're partners with Loudoun but Red Bulls and Union run a second team, why not DCU?