Israel is trying to drag America into a war w/ Iran

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Anonymous wrote:Why do Palestinians have the land claim? Please explain to me. There has never been a state called Palestine.

Look at a world map pre-1948. Yes, there was a Palestine.



Where?

Before 1948, it was part of the British Mandate.

Before 1918, it was part of the Ottoman Empire.

Palestinians rejected an independent Palestine in both 1948 and 1993.

There has never been a country called Palestine in the history of planet Earth.

Palestine was specifically mentioned in the Book of Isaiah.



Which is both pre-Christian and pre-Islam. So... the Jews?


I guess all Jews(real jews) are born with a property deed for some land in Palestine? How much land does each Jew get? Even if they can trace their ancestors back 10 generations and none of them ever lives in Palestine, they still have legal ownership? Interesting. Does this mean property owner by Jews outside of Israel is free and can be claimed by anyone?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*
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Sorry, I meant Jeffery Goldberg, not Jonah. Jonah is another mess.
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Nicolle Wallace is another joke on this conflict. But of course, she was a gleeful Neocon with the Bush admin pretending she's all reformed.
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You can also look up WaPo's Elizabeth Dwoskin. Another agenda-driven, propagandist whose own past tweets outed her as another IDF mouthpiece.

God bless Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate for doing REAL journalism and not letting any of these people get away with pretending they aren't the reason Americans wallow in ignorance.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do Palestinians have the land claim? Please explain to me. There has never been a state called Palestine.

Look at a world map pre-1948. Yes, there was a Palestine.


Oh sweet summer child.

It was British Mandatory Palestine.

There has never been a sovereign state of Palestine.

The Jews are the only group other than imperial forces that have had a sovereign state on that land.


That you have the nerve to be condescending towards someone using the defense that because a country was under British rule, the people living on it have no claim...

That you think the land didn't exist before Jews or that every single Jew is from there and no one else was...

That you think not one single person called a Palestinian today wasn't there on day one, but every single current Jew was...

...is why Zionism is a mental disorder.


Again: can you read?!

I NEVER said they don’t have a claim.

I said they didn’t have a sovereign state.


What Zionists try to do to justify Israel's fairytale existence, is apply ridiculous standards to Palestinians that no other people/country in history are subjected.

It is absolute stupidity to claim only Jews were ever there because it was there BEFORE even religion, so why do Zionists (most of whom AREN'T religious. The most psychotic ones are atheists), get to arbitrarily decide WHEN history starts?

It is absolute stupidity when I see the claim "Palestine never existed." NO COUNTRY ALWAYS EXISTED, but the people living on it DO. Debating what a land is called, doesn't suddenly negate the existence of its people. Zionists do that to disgustingly dehumanize and nullify the humanity of the people they occupy.

How is it that Jews get claim to be from every God damned country on earth but Palestinians are the only people told they never existed on the land they exist on? Where else do you see the absurd claim that every single person of a certain ethnic group who've been living there forever and have the DNA to prove it, aren't from there? I'm Palestinian myself. We did DNA tests, we have every freaking invader TO Palestine in my DNA and I'm mistaken for everything from Italian, to Turkish, to Greek, to ISRAELI.

There is no damned land mass that wasn't RULED by whomever invaded that land whether Brits or Turks or Genghis, that doesn't mean the people living on the land suddenly have no right to be there.

The mentally ill gymnastics required to be a Zionist is astonishing. They think they sound smart when it comes to history, but it confirms how preposterous you have to be to be one. The hypocrisy required in defending the actions of Israel from even denying who actually brought terrorism, is precisely why college students aren't looking to the rabid Zionists in US media like Bash and Tapper for the truth about anything. It's enough their dumb parents didn't learn a thing from the media lies told about the Iraq war, destroying a nation, costing almost 5000 soldiers and 1M civilians their lives while American journalists laugh it up at the WHCD watching Dubya pretend to look for WMDs under his desk, but sure, on THIS, the media is totally being honest and have no agenda where once again Israel is framed as the victim while actually being the provocateur and a giant, pathetic, groveling b***h of a nation using its billions of taxpayer dollars and abusing its power in the UN and domestically muzzling its own citizens to the point of passing laws to violate the 1A of its own citizens on behalf of that foreign nation...going along with all of it. AGAIN.


No one is saying ONLY Jews lived there.

JFC.
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JFC indeed. I like how you think this simplistic, dismissive response isn't precisely the justification for how most choose to defend the depravity of Israel.


You live in your own reality.


You mean a reality where I was born and raised in America with very dumb people who defend Israel by constantly saying "Palestinians don't exist" and think terrorism started with Palestinians? Sure. Tell yourself what you want. The entire basis for the US' blind fealty is based on its own reality.

Since you are so passionate about the Palestinian cause, why aren't you there helping them achieve their goal?


I love how you think saying it this way isn't pretty much "Get out of America if you have a problem with it."

Sweetheart, I know exactly what land belonged to my family and how beautiful it was because I went as a child. If you don't think I wouldn't love to be in Palestine without some foreign invader having stolen everything from us, you're wrong. Of course, we don't get Hollywood films about the actual possessions we had stolen. How about you tell Europe to actually sacrifice a country so that they could actually pay for what they did? Let's start there?
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Anonymous wrote:Why do Palestinians have the land claim? Please explain to me. There has never been a state called Palestine.

Look at a world map pre-1948. Yes, there was a Palestine.


Oh sweet summer child.

It was British Mandatory Palestine.

There has never been a sovereign state of Palestine.

The Jews are the only group other than imperial forces that have had a sovereign state on that land.


That you have the nerve to be condescending towards someone using the defense that because a country was under British rule, the people living on it have no claim...

That you think the land didn't exist before Jews or that every single Jew is from there and no one else was...

That you think not one single person called a Palestinian today wasn't there on day one, but every single current Jew was...

...is why Zionism is a mental disorder.


Again: can you read?!

I NEVER said they don’t have a claim.

I said they didn’t have a sovereign state.


What Zionists try to do to justify Israel's fairytale existence, is apply ridiculous standards to Palestinians that no other people/country in history are subjected.

It is absolute stupidity to claim only Jews were ever there because it was there BEFORE even religion, so why do Zionists (most of whom AREN'T religious. The most psychotic ones are atheists), get to arbitrarily decide WHEN history starts?

It is absolute stupidity when I see the claim "Palestine never existed." NO COUNTRY ALWAYS EXISTED, but the people living on it DO. Debating what a land is called, doesn't suddenly negate the existence of its people. Zionists do that to disgustingly dehumanize and nullify the humanity of the people they occupy.

How is it that Jews get claim to be from every God damned country on earth but Palestinians are the only people told they never existed on the land they exist on? Where else do you see the absurd claim that every single person of a certain ethnic group who've been living there forever and have the DNA to prove it, aren't from there? I'm Palestinian myself. We did DNA tests, we have every freaking invader TO Palestine in my DNA and I'm mistaken for everything from Italian, to Turkish, to Greek, to ISRAELI.

There is no damned land mass that wasn't RULED by whomever invaded that land whether Brits or Turks or Genghis, that doesn't mean the people living on the land suddenly have no right to be there.

The mentally ill gymnastics required to be a Zionist is astonishing. They think they sound smart when it comes to history, but it confirms how preposterous you have to be to be one. The hypocrisy required in defending the actions of Israel from even denying who actually brought terrorism, is precisely why college students aren't looking to the rabid Zionists in US media like Bash and Tapper for the truth about anything. It's enough their dumb parents didn't learn a thing from the media lies told about the Iraq war, destroying a nation, costing almost 5000 soldiers and 1M civilians their lives while American journalists laugh it up at the WHCD watching Dubya pretend to look for WMDs under his desk, but sure, on THIS, the media is totally being honest and have no agenda where once again Israel is framed as the victim while actually being the provocateur and a giant, pathetic, groveling b***h of a nation using its billions of taxpayer dollars and abusing its power in the UN and domestically muzzling its own citizens to the point of passing laws to violate the 1A of its own citizens on behalf of that foreign nation...going along with all of it. AGAIN.


No one is saying ONLY Jews lived there.

JFC.
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JFC indeed. I like how you think this simplistic, dismissive response isn't precisely the justification for how most choose to defend the depravity of Israel.


You live in your own reality.


You mean a reality where I was born and raised in America with very dumb people who defend Israel by constantly saying "Palestinians don't exist" and think terrorism started with Palestinians? Sure. Tell yourself what you want. The entire basis for the US' blind fealty is based on its own reality.


Show me where someone on this thread said Palestinians don’t exist.


Why do I have to show you on this particular thread when it's been the nonsense repeated by people on a regular basis for years who blindly defend Israel? It's one of the most common tropes. Don't pretend it isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I meant Jeffery Goldberg, not Jonah. Jonah is another mess.


Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Israel wants America in endless wars in the middle east.

They want us to fund their wars and then send our troops do die fighting their wars.

Ever wonder why we went into Iraq when the administration knew there were no WMD's?

Endless wars in the middle east paid by our tax dollars and our soldiers!!


No

They’re doing all our dirty work.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Jewish journalists should really be forced to disavow Israel before they’re hired.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Most Jews are Zionists. So you kind of are talking about them.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Most Jews are Zionists. So you kind of are talking about them.


Absolutely not. Zionism was long ago unmasked as a Trojan Horse that pretended to be about finding a place where Jews could live safely and at peace, but really was always all about radical extremists pushing an ethnic supremacy agenda that won’t stop short of killing anyone and everything in its path.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Most Jews are Zionists. So you kind of are talking about them.


Most Americans are Zionists.

The percentage of Americans that think Israel has no right to exist is vanishingly small. Zionist is not the insult that progressives seem to think it is. It's like denouncing Air Breathers.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Most Jews are Zionists. So you kind of are talking about them.


Absolutely not. Zionism was long ago unmasked as a Trojan Horse that pretended to be about finding a place where Jews could live safely and at peace, but really was always all about radical extremists pushing an ethnic supremacy agenda that won’t stop short of killing anyone and everything in its path.


Whatever
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why the news coverage is so asymmetric? The bombs dropped in Israel are so full of empathetic videos of "oh no." "Oh this is just so tragic. I hope everyone is safe and ok..."

On the other hand, the coverage of bombings anywhere outside of Israel by Israel is presented in a cold/calculated manner or is completely victorious sounding... anyone else see this dichotomy?

Look at the makeup of the lead anchors, Tapper, Bash, Blitzer, etc. and you have your answer.


And then they tell you "You're 'antisemitic!' because they stupidly think it's about them simply being Jewish rather than literal Zionists. Wolf Blitzer *directly* worked for AIPAC and the Jerusalem Post. Jonah Goldberg was a damned prison guard in Israel. David Brooks' son was in the IDF, Bret Stephens wrote an article about the "diseased Arab Mind" and THEN got hired by the NYT. Dana Bash and Jake Tapper are outright lying and spreading Israeli propaganda.

You think this glaring Zionism having tainted US media coverage for a very long time, hasn't been precisely what has brainwashed Americans into believing every Arab and Muslim is some nefarious, inhuman caricature when these are just some of the people who get to DEFINE the conflict in US media? I can go even further with the list of people who've so profoundly failed the American people when it comes to journalistic integrity in covering this *occupation*


Most Jews are Zionists. So you kind of are talking about them.


Most Americans are Zionists.

The percentage of Americans that think Israel has no right to exist is vanishingly small. Zionist is not the insult that progressives seem to think it is. It's like denouncing Air Breathers.


+1

Barack Obama really did a number on anti-Israel sentiment in America. And yet the Jews kept voting for him.
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