MAGA - describe when America was “Great”

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Anonymous wrote:America was much better before the rampant acceptance of obscenities in day to day life. Now we have presidential candidates using terms like Harris “effn”, Trump “p**y” Walz “ “g-d damn it”.

Not to mention rampant sexploitation in the entertainment industry.

I don’t think Vance at least has publicly cursed, but I could be wrong.

Of course there are outliers but statistics show kid’s fare much better in 2 parent households.

Didn’t Nixon and LBJ curse up a storm? Obscenities always existed. I’m not sure why you think this is a recent development

Mass media lead to cultivated images.

FDR was wheelchair bound and most Americans at the time and now had/have no idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

+ you could work until retirement and executives didn't take all leaving nothing for the workers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll bite. Broadly, I'd take anytime before early 2000s (I distinctly view forever wars that started after 9/11 as NOT great) but in particular, 1960s- technical innovation, rigorous schools, low crime, civil rights, nuclear family still intact, low cost of living, cheap college. Very much admire President Kennedy and what he wanted for this country.

Yes and around 2000 is when we forgot how to elect real presidents. Leadership at the top matters.

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In World War II when our young people and our industries went to work to defeat Germany and Japan.

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Anonymous wrote:In World War II when our young people and our industries went to work to defeat Germany and Japan.

Agreed and now we have Trump who is a wanna-be authoritarian of the kind 450,000 American soldiers died in WWII in order to defeat.

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“Kearney also contended that a stable two-parent household, particularly one where both parents are actively involved, offers unique advantages to children that extend beyond a pooled income. Having two parents in the household, Kearney explained, offers benefits such as increased parental time for activities like reading and homework assistance, as well as reduced stress and greater emotional bandwidth for parenting”


https://www.brookings.edu/articles/key-takeaways-from-the-discussion-on-the-two-parent-privilege/#:~:text=Having%20two%20parents%20in%20the,greater%20emotional%20bandwidth%20for%20parenting.

Yet, as I recall (from reading in college many years ago) These studies didn’t really look seriously at other family models. Two parents families are the default model. But what if the two parents have a hostile relationship, or if even one of them is seriously impaired by alcohol, other substance abuse, mental illness, or even unremitting stress. Would that really be “better” on clearly specified measures than, say, a household that includes a grandmother, her adult daughter and son, and her own children’s children? That offers all of the benefits that Kearney indicated, possibly with more egalitarian and more flexibility among the adults in the household, and possibly more support for the kids. I’m not arguing in favor of either model. I’m saying that there are multiple models beyond the ones that most researchers look at from the secure perspectives of their own cultures.

Not PP but I feel strongly that boys in particular benefit from a strong male in the house. I see this most striking when my husband goes out of town- even though we parent similarly and are both actively engaged, there just appears to be something different about a booming deep voice in regards to discipline that leaves a void when he is not here, despite my best efforts.

I agree with you. I’d actually go further and say that boys AND girls benefit from a strong male in the household — or at least readily available and near at hand. I’m suggesting, though, that those people don’t have to be a couple, much less a married couple — and that the advantages of a “two parent “ household might not be “unique “.

[Anonymous]

Gas $2.15 a gallon
Strong economy
Low inflation
Low unemployment
Secure borders

I dont consider myself "maga" I just use common sense to answer your question op. You could have done the same.

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Any time before cell phones and social media was invented.

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Anonymous wrote:Any time before cell phones and social media was invented.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:In World War II when our young people and our industries went to work to defeat Germany and Japan.

Agreed and now we have Trump who is a wanna-be authoritarian of the kind 450,000 American soldiers died in WWII in order to defeat.

A terrible and tragic irony.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if I could afford my bills and groceries again. That would be great again.

Was everything "great" years ago? Hell no. But I need to afford groceries, heat, electricity, mortgage, etc. right now. Due to inflation, I've been knocked down lower on Maslows hierarchy of needs. My needs now are simply shelter, food, water, etc.

I dunno. I grew up in 1970s and my parents lived paycheck to paycheck. I mean they borrowed from the bank every month to pay off bills. We had very little in terms of things and never went on vacation. One small b&w tv. 5 of us sharing a bathroom. Both of my parents grew up in families who had very little as well. As in, 5 kids sleeping in one room. All hand-me-down clothes. One family didn't have a car, the other had a 30+ year old car that was falling apart. Basically the same as what you are saying now: the only things spent on were simply shelter, food, water. So, where was the great? I mean, I guess it sounds like for you it was the 90s? When a Democrat was in the White House?

2018 to 2020 we had no problems paying for things. We all know prices went through the roof in 2021.

Those Trump tariffs helped inflation take off.

Please explain the details - pretend I did not go to business school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if I could afford my bills and groceries again. That would be great again.

Was everything "great" years ago? Hell no. But I need to afford groceries, heat, electricity, mortgage, etc. right now. Due to inflation, I've been knocked down lower on Maslows hierarchy of needs. My needs now are simply shelter, food, water, etc.

I dunno. I grew up in 1970s and my parents lived paycheck to paycheck. I mean they borrowed from the bank every month to pay off bills. We had very little in terms of things and never went on vacation. One small b&w tv. 5 of us sharing a bathroom. Both of my parents grew up in families who had very little as well. As in, 5 kids sleeping in one room. All hand-me-down clothes. One family didn't have a car, the other had a 30+ year old car that was falling apart. Basically the same as what you are saying now: the only things spent on were simply shelter, food, water. So, where was the great? I mean, I guess it sounds like for you it was the 90s? When a Democrat was in the White House?

2018 to 2020 we had no problems paying for things. We all know prices went through the roof in 2021.

Those Trump tariffs helped inflation take off.

Regarding tariffs. I generally don’t support them but their effects in large, diversified, and efficient economies like the US are far less inflationary than in small and industrially concentrated economies.

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Anonymous wrote:Any time before cell phones and social media was invented.

+1000

yep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gas $2.15 a gallon
Strong economy
Low inflation
Low unemployment
Secure borders

I dont consider myself "maga" I just use common sense to answer your question op. You could have done the same.

+1
These stupid threads baiting "MAGA" are purely to start fights. Anyone with common sense knows the answer to the question, whether they admit it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

Is it intentional that you left out how few rights women had in banking and in employment?